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John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Ireland?

Postby deco » July 26th, 2012, 1:24 pm

I've long thought that Pat Hickey should hand over the baton to some new blood, but never envisaged John Delaney as a candidate. We're better off with him ruining the FAI than meddling with the OCI.

It may not have been as clear cut as he would have preferred, but Pat Hickey was duly appointed to the executive committee of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) this morning. Hickey received 57 votes in his favour, with 34 opposed to the Dubliner’s appointment.

Hickey was elected at a secret ballot of the IOC’s session in London’s Grosvenor House Hotel. Having been given a seat at the top table of the IOC - the executive board consists of the president Jaques Rogge, four vice-presidents and 10 other members - Hickey may now consider his position as president of the Olympic Council of Ireland (OCI).

Should he choose to vacate his position in the OCI, FAI chief executive John Delaney is among the favourites to replace him. Delaney is currently the second vice-president of the OCI.

Hickey had a shot at the top table before but it didn’t end the way he wanted. But in the intervening years he has inched further up the IOC ladder and is now president of the European Olympic Committees, an umbrella organisation within the IOC of all the European nations. He wears many hats in the movement but another is as a member of the commission for the co-ordination of the next Olympic Games in Rio.


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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby hugonaut » July 26th, 2012, 1:39 pm

deco wrote:I've long thought that Pat Hickey should hand over the baton to some new blood, but never envisaged John Delaney as a candidate. We're better off with him ruining the FAI than meddling with the OCI.

It may not have been as clear cut as he would have preferred, but Pat Hickey was duly appointed to the executive committee of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) this morning. Hickey received 57 votes in his favour, with 34 opposed to the Dubliner’s appointment.

Hickey was elected at a secret ballot of the IOC’s session in London’s Grosvenor House Hotel. Having been given a seat at the top table of the IOC - the executive board consists of the president Jaques Rogge, four vice-presidents and 10 other members - Hickey may now consider his position as president of the Olympic Council of Ireland (OCI).

Should he choose to vacate his position in the OCI, FAI chief executive John Delaney is among the favourites to replace him. Delaney is currently the second vice-president of the OCI.

Hickey had a shot at the top table before but it didn’t end the way he wanted. But in the intervening years he has inched further up the IOC ladder and is now president of the European Olympic Committees, an umbrella organisation within the IOC of all the European nations. He wears many hats in the movement but another is as a member of the commission for the co-ordination of the next Olympic Games in Rio.


http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/other/ ... 39953.html


I read this in this morning's IT. Surely, surely there's a better candidate than Delaney.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby Scott » July 26th, 2012, 1:40 pm

Replacing one useless c**t with another.OCI should be so lucky to get rid of Hickey
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby Leinster Exile » July 27th, 2012, 8:14 am

hugonaut wrote:
deco wrote:I've long thought that Pat Hickey should hand over the baton to some new blood, but never envisaged John Delaney as a candidate. We're better off with him ruining the FAI than meddling with the OCI.

It may not have been as clear cut as he would have preferred, but Pat Hickey was duly appointed to the executive committee of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) this morning. Hickey received 57 votes in his favour, with 34 opposed to the Dubliner’s appointment.

Hickey was elected at a secret ballot of the IOC’s session in London’s Grosvenor House Hotel. Having been given a seat at the top table of the IOC - the executive board consists of the president Jaques Rogge, four vice-presidents and 10 other members - Hickey may now consider his position as president of the Olympic Council of Ireland (OCI).

Should he choose to vacate his position in the OCI, FAI chief executive John Delaney is among the favourites to replace him. Delaney is currently the second vice-president of the OCI.

Hickey had a shot at the top table before but it didn’t end the way he wanted. But in the intervening years he has inched further up the IOC ladder and is now president of the European Olympic Committees, an umbrella organisation within the IOC of all the European nations. He wears many hats in the movement but another is as a member of the commission for the co-ordination of the next Olympic Games in Rio.


http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/other/ ... 39953.html


I read this in this morning's IT. Surely, surely there's a better candidate than Delaney.

It's Ireland, there probably is however he's not the "good friends" with the right people
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby Peg Leg » July 27th, 2012, 11:50 am

hugonaut wrote:
deco wrote:I've long thought that Pat Hickey should hand over the baton to some new blood, but never envisaged John Delaney as a candidate. We're better off with him ruining the FAI than meddling with the OCI.

It may not have been as clear cut as he would have preferred, but Pat Hickey was duly appointed to the executive committee of the International Olympic Committee (IOC) this morning. Hickey received 57 votes in his favour, with 34 opposed to the Dubliner’s appointment.

Hickey was elected at a secret ballot of the IOC’s session in London’s Grosvenor House Hotel. Having been given a seat at the top table of the IOC - the executive board consists of the president Jaques Rogge, four vice-presidents and 10 other members - Hickey may now consider his position as president of the Olympic Council of Ireland (OCI).

Should he choose to vacate his position in the OCI, FAI chief executive John Delaney is among the favourites to replace him. Delaney is currently the second vice-president of the OCI.

Hickey had a shot at the top table before but it didn’t end the way he wanted. But in the intervening years he has inched further up the IOC ladder and is now president of the European Olympic Committees, an umbrella organisation within the IOC of all the European nations. He wears many hats in the movement but another is as a member of the commission for the co-ordination of the next Olympic Games in Rio.


http://www.irishtimes.com/sports/other/ ... 39953.html


I read this in this morning's IT. Surely, surely there's a better candidate than Delaney.

CEO positions such as this are shared amongst the chosen few, it seems that if you have been on the DAA, FAI or Charity Director circuit - you will be appointed to one position or the other.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby Dexter » July 27th, 2012, 12:20 pm

A joke.. its always the same small circle of the same clowns.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby hugonaut » July 27th, 2012, 12:37 pm

Dexter wrote:A joke.. its always the same small circle of the same clowns.


I appreciate that there's a certain skillset that applies to most CEO positions [i.e. it's as much about control and delegation of a significant workforce as it is about your particular industry/line of work], but with all the negative PR Delaney has generated over the last couple of months, you'd imagine that any sane organization would steer well, well clear of him.
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Postby tackle-bag » July 27th, 2012, 1:59 pm

hugonaut wrote:
deco wrote:I read this in this morning's IT. Surely, surely there's a better candidate than Delaney.


The real question is whether there is a worse candidate. Delaney is an embarrassing gombeen who reached his current position through a mixture of nepotism, cronyism and just being in the right place at the right time. Positions such as this one require people with proven records of success in senior management roles within the private sector. Under Delaney's watch, most of the clubs in the national league are de facto insolvent, the association has had to shed a load of staff and the national soccer team still don't have their own f***ing stadium. This has all occurred in the context of an organisation which has precious few overheads in view of the fact that they don't have to pay their players. In fact, probably their single most substantial outgoing is his wholly unmerited salary.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby Lar » July 27th, 2012, 2:05 pm

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hugonaut wrote:
deco wrote:I read this in this morning's IT. Surely, surely there's a better candidate than Delaney.


The real question is whether there is a worse candidate. Delaney is an embarrassing gombeen who reached his current position through a mixture of nepotism, cronyism and just being in the right place at the right time. Positions such as this one require people with proven records of success in senior management roles within the private sector. Under Delaney's watch, most of the clubs in the national league are de facto insolvent, the association has had to shed a load of staff and the national soccer team still don't have their own f***ing stadium. This has all occurred in the context of an organisation which has precious few overheads in view of the fact that they don't have to pay their players. In fact, probably their single most substantial outgoing is his wholly unmerited salary.


Agree with almost all of this except that I think you will find that the National Soccer Team does have its own stadium. LR is as much the FAI's as it is the IRFU's now, although I am unsure as to the precise financial arrangements. I accept LR will always be the spiritual home of rugby in Ireland whereas Soccer only started turning up there in the early 1970s.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby totalrandomer » July 27th, 2012, 2:53 pm

Lar wrote:Agree with almost all of this except that I think you will find that the National Soccer Team does have its own stadium. LR is as much the FAI's as it is the IRFU's now, although I am unsure as to the precise financial arrangements. I accept LR will always be the spiritual home of rugby in Ireland whereas Soccer only started turning up there in the early 1970s.

IRFU own it when the current deal finishes. Fai are tenants.
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John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Ireland?

Postby Dave Cahill » July 27th, 2012, 3:29 pm

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Lar wrote:Agree with almost all of this except that I think you will find that the National Soccer Team does have its own stadium. LR is as much the FAI's as it is the IRFU's now, although I am unsure as to the precise financial arrangements. I accept LR will always be the spiritual home of rugby in Ireland whereas Soccer only started turning up there in the early 1970s.

IRFU own it when the current deal finishes. Fai are tenants.


no they aren't. For the next 30 years or however long is remaining, they OWN 50% of the stadium. They get 50% of the revenue and pay 50% of the costs
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby Dexter » July 27th, 2012, 4:08 pm

hugonaut wrote:
Dexter wrote:A joke.. its always the same small circle of the same clowns.


I appreciate that there's a certain skillset that applies to most CEO positions [i.e. it's as much about control and delegation of a significant workforce as it is about your particular industry/line of work], but with all the negative PR Delaney has generated over the last couple of months, you'd imagine that any sane organization would steer well, well clear of him.

Agree with your comments about skillset (although I would have big doubts over Delany possessing them). I would also propose that another function of the CEO is to act as representative of the organisation when required. Another problem area for Delany, given the negative publicity and perception that you mention.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby deco » July 27th, 2012, 10:33 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
totalrandomer wrote:
Lar wrote:Agree with almost all of this except that I think you will find that the National Soccer Team does have its own stadium. LR is as much the FAI's as it is the IRFU's now, although I am unsure as to the precise financial arrangements. I accept LR will always be the spiritual home of rugby in Ireland whereas Soccer only started turning up there in the early 1970s.

IRFU own it when the current deal finishes. Fai are tenants.


no they aren't. For the next 30 years or however long is remaining, they OWN 50% of the stadium. They get 50% of the revenue and pay 50% of the costs


The important thing is that when the deal runs it course, the property will be owned by the IRFU alone. The FAI are
partners in a company that owns and runs the stadium structure. That company is effectively a long term tenant on the land they built their stadium upon.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby Mauler » July 28th, 2012, 5:23 pm

I heard Pat Hickey on the radio a few days ago and he mentioned that his role with the OCI was a voluntary position and he was unpaid. So if the Chief Used Car Salesman is in line to replace Hickey on the OCI he would have forfit his 360k salary with the Used Car Salesmen (down from 400k last yr). Delaney as recently as last weeks AGM of the UCS mentioned that he actually had to take a pay cut when first appointed CEO of the UCS (@ circa 440k).
Personally I think he is doing a bang up job and has single handly helped grow our sport in the country.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby Dave Cahill » July 28th, 2012, 5:57 pm

deco wrote:
The important thing is that when the deal runs it course, the property will be owned by the IRFU alone. The FAI are
partners in a company that owns and runs the stadium structure. That company is effectively a long term tenant on the land they built their stadium upon.


Yes, in, say, 30 years time, the IRFU will have a 30-odd year old stadium, and the FAI will have had the benefit of it for 30 years, at no cost to themselves, and will walk away free and clear. I'm not sure that that is necessarily a bad thing.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby suisse » August 2nd, 2012, 4:36 am

Mauler wrote:I heard Pat Hickey on the radio a few days ago and he mentioned that his role with the OCI was a voluntary position and he was unpaid. So


Interesting, but does anyone know if Delaney's position is also voluntary? Or is he earning two salaries?
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby janeymac08 » August 6th, 2012, 7:06 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
deco wrote:
The important thing is that when the deal runs it course, the property will be owned by the IRFU alone. The FAI are
partners in a company that owns and runs the stadium structure. That company is effectively a long term tenant on the land they built their stadium upon.


Yes, in, say, 30 years time, the IRFU will have a 30-odd year old stadium, and the FAI will have had the benefit of it for 30 years, at no cost to themselves, and will walk away free and clear. I'm not sure that that is necessarily a bad thing.


The joint venture has a 60-year lease on the stadium; on expiry the stadium will return to the exclusive ownership of the IRFU. In the meantime the IRFU get about €1m a year for leasing the land.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby Ulster's Best » August 18th, 2012, 9:41 am

Maeve Kyle would be perfect, though she's probably a bit too long in the tooth now. But if it's just a figurehead position then maybe age shouldn't be too big a factor.
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Re: John Delaney - President of the Olympic Council of Irela

Postby brotheroffrank » December 27th, 2019, 8:46 pm

:lol:
Dave Cahill wrote:
totalrandomer wrote:
Lar wrote:Agree with almost all of this except that I think you will find that the National Soccer Team does have its own stadium. LR is as much the FAI's as it is the IRFU's now, although I am unsure as to the precise financial arrangements. I accept LR will always be the spiritual home of rugby in Ireland whereas Soccer only started turning up there in the early 1970s.

IRFU own it when the current deal finishes. Fai are tenants.


no they aren't. For the next 30 years or however long is remaining, they OWN 50% of the stadium. They get 50% of the revenue and pay 50% of the costs



"Or however long is remaining....." :lol:
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