How can you not see that there is a link between the tackle and being sent off? It's as if it never happened! I never argued that he showed any remorse, just that it was a bad tackle that he knew he shouldn't have done and nothing you have said has changed my mind on that because I still think (and your ignoring of the "no way was I pulling out" comment is your big problem here) that the apology acknowledges that it was a bad tackle.Sauvignon Blank wrote: Cant say for sure as I don't know Jonjo personally but I'd guess he felt bad for the fans, as losing a man in a big game kind of scuppers ones chances of getting a win.
This is the question that you are still yet to answer. Why would he feel for the fans for his dismissal if he hadn't done anything wrong? Surely you only apologise if you did something wrong? Your opinion seems to be that he's saying "I apologise for making a perfectly good tackle and getting sent off"...How does that make sense? Just to add again that you are still to acknowledge that he mentioned pulling out of the tackle, imo those words indicate that he knew he should have. Your opinion appears to be that those words never appear anywhere...which is nuts.
Er, you are using the tweets, not me. I'm going on what was actually said by Jonjo. I heard him being interviewed on Sky Sports News the following day just as he was about to play a round of golf. He didn't apologise then for any tackle just like the night before on your darling twitter. Straight from the horses mouth no less. I take the man at his word, you should too.LeRoux wrote: Your ignoring of the tweets is pathetic. He quoted something that someone else said, that's not irrelvant. That quote is also backed up by the photo which showed it was a bad tackle, why is that so hard for you to follow? Hate to break it to you but you can't actually use the tweets to say that he apologised to the fans for being sent off but then ignore the rest of what was said and the medium itself. If you don't find it a credible source (which would be ridiculous given that it's his own personal account) then you can't use it to support your argument either.
Er, I'm saying that you can't say that the tweets aren't credible and then use them in your argument, which you have done. This is amazing news though! How long has it taken you to remember that you saw that interview?? Why didn't you mention it before??? What exactly was "straight from the horses mouth"? Are you honestly saying that the fact that he didn't apologise in this "interview" means that he never did? Crazy.
Thats correct, I did say that a couple of times because you patently were making things up. I can't help what fits in your definition of liar, but in mine it doesn't infer you are a liar per se, just merely incorrect and prone to a mistake. This is down IMHO to your interpretation of what may or not not have been inferred in cyberspace. You suspect & presume Shelvey may have apologised but I on the other hand know he didn't to the best of my knowledge. Knowledge of what Shelvey actually said Verbatim. Draw your own conclusions.LeRoux wrote: Studs showing and wreckless? Check.
Red card to follow? Check.
Apology to fans...
A) On the referee's behalf because he made a mistake? Doubtful.
Or
B) Because of the first two points meaning that he knows he was wrong? Check.
You said I was making things up...that fits under the definition of liar.
I will go with my logic on this one if you don't mind.
Please illustrate where Shelvey said the following and end this nonsense
" I apologise for making that (Bad) tackle on Sunday"
and FFS don't regurgitate the tweet because as Avenger also rightly points out(something i have also consistently pointed out to you), he never apologised for any tackle, just for being sent off and giving Ferguson jip going off.
Judging by your other post with the photo showing that his studs were up and yet using that as evidence that he SHOULDN'T have been sent off, there really is no reason to continue arguing when you're blind to any reasonable argument.