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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby riocard911 » March 6th, 2017, 5:13 pm

jimbobjoe wrote:
goreyguy wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Not so sure myself, jury is out on 3 of them and Ryan yet to play. A truck tonne of potential there though for sure


That potential is basically Ryan.

Maybe Molony if he can cut out that missed tackles etc.


I think he will. He's adjusting to a bit of bulk and will likely have targets set for him. His showings last season indicated he's got the ability, the physicality and awareness will come with gametime and a bit of perseverance.


Thought he put in very decent shift vs the Scarlets.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby ronk » March 20th, 2017, 11:06 pm

Last season the priority was signing enough to have a team, e.g. Henshaw, Nagle and JGP.

This year we've been able to build. I don't t see us having much in the way of a pressing need in any positions but there's a huge hole coming up post RWC at fullback.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Oldschool » March 20th, 2017, 11:18 pm

ronk wrote:Last season the priority was signing enough to have a team, e.g. Henshaw, Nagle and JGP.

This year we've been able to build. I don't t see us having much in the way of a pressing need in any positions but there's a huge hole coming up post RWC at fullback.

Who would you think might be potential 15s.
Henshaw Carberry come to mind but that could be a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Kelleher maybe?
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby ronk » March 21st, 2017, 12:03 am

It's 2 years, Larmour could be in the running, we might sign someone if there's no one.

We probably need a hole before we can fill it, history often works that way. Macken was the guy who was going to fill BODs shoes but it was only after he left that Ringrose bolted into the gap left by Te'o
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby paddyor » March 23rd, 2017, 12:22 pm

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/no-hard-feelings-joe-schmidt-says-mike-ross-445806.html#

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Before last November’s autumn tests, Schmidt rang Ross to say he would be trying out some young blood in Chicago and the three home tests. If an emergency arose, he’d get a call, but it was time to look forward.

“It was nice to get the call, I’d known the man a long time, nearly every medal I won, I won under him,” Ross said.

Tadhg Furlong filled Ross’s boots well in Chicago, doing what Ross and others before him had found impossible — beating the All Blacks.

The veteran prop couldn’t have been happier for the young buck. “I remember watching him in 2013 or 2014, he was playing against Cardiff,” he said. “You’d see flashes from him and I was thinking ‘shit, I’m in trouble here’.

“He’s a really good guy, we’ve a great relationship, we text each other a fair bit, we talk, he pops over for coffee now and then. I feel pride. A huge amount. It’s funny, it’s like a big brother, little brother kinda relationship, I’m trying to keep him under my wing. He’s done really well.”

After making the step up to test level look easy, Furlong experienced the tougher side of life with defeats in Scotland and Wales. Ross is certain Furlong will learn the required lessons.

“I said to him the other day, he’s going to find it more difficult the longer he goes on because teams will have more footage of him, they’ll figure out stuff, that will make life more difficult, and he’s going to have to evolve with it. I think he’s well capable of that,” he said.
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Hopefully he sticks around.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby goreyguy » March 23rd, 2017, 12:55 pm

paddyor wrote:http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rugby/no-hard-feelings-joe-schmidt-says-mike-ross-445806.html#

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Before last November’s autumn tests, Schmidt rang Ross to say he would be trying out some young blood in Chicago and the three home tests. If an emergency arose, he’d get a call, but it was time to look forward.

“It was nice to get the call, I’d known the man a long time, nearly every medal I won, I won under him,” Ross said.

Tadhg Furlong filled Ross’s boots well in Chicago, doing what Ross and others before him had found impossible — beating the All Blacks.

The veteran prop couldn’t have been happier for the young buck. “I remember watching him in 2013 or 2014, he was playing against Cardiff,” he said. “You’d see flashes from him and I was thinking ‘shit, I’m in trouble here’.

“He’s a really good guy, we’ve a great relationship, we text each other a fair bit, we talk, he pops over for coffee now and then. I feel pride. A huge amount. It’s funny, it’s like a big brother, little brother kinda relationship, I’m trying to keep him under my wing. He’s done really well.”

After making the step up to test level look easy, Furlong experienced the tougher side of life with defeats in Scotland and Wales. Ross is certain Furlong will learn the required lessons.

“I said to him the other day, he’s going to find it more difficult the longer he goes on because teams will have more footage of him, they’ll figure out stuff, that will make life more difficult, and he’s going to have to evolve with it. I think he’s well capable of that,” he said.
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Hopefully he sticks around.


Surely will... Leinster would be mad not to get him into a coaching role straight away.. maybe starting at academy level.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Raydollard » March 23rd, 2017, 1:50 pm

More jobs for the boys needed.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby goreyguy » March 23rd, 2017, 1:54 pm

Yeah Ross clearly doesn't have a club about scrummaging technique.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby the spoofer » March 23rd, 2017, 2:07 pm

goreyguy wrote:Yeah Ross clearly doesn't have a club about scrummaging technique.


I'm a big fan of promoting from within while at the same time bringing in additional outside coaching expertise. I'd like to see us add Ross and Nacewa from our current playing pool.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby riocard911 » March 23rd, 2017, 2:20 pm

the spoofer wrote:
goreyguy wrote:Yeah Ross clearly doesn't have a club about scrummaging technique.


I'm a big fan of promoting from within while at the same time bringing in additional outside coaching expertise. I'd like to see us add Ross and Nacewa from our current playing pool.


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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Mickado » March 23rd, 2017, 2:44 pm

On Mike Ross and his technical scrum knowledge, a few years back at the B&I cup final in Donnybrook against Jersey (I think?) we were getting hammered in the scrum early on, Ross and a good few of the senior squad were watching the game in the stand and Mike walks down to the barrier, calls over the water boy and gets a message to him, water boy runs on and gives the message, next scrum is rock solid, the one after that we completely reversed the momentum and started to hammer them.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » March 23rd, 2017, 2:58 pm

it sounds twee but Ross strikes me as someone who would absolutely love being that kind of a technical specialist coach, and not just for the video analysis and presentation possibilities, and passion/committment for something does help
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » March 23rd, 2017, 3:05 pm

Mickado wrote:On Mike Ross and his technical scrum knowledge, a few years back at the B&I cup final in Donnybrook against Jersey (I think?) we were getting hammered in the scrum early on, Ross and a good few of the senior squad were watching the game in the stand and Mike walks down to the barrier, calls over the water boy and gets a message to him, water boy runs on and gives the message, next scrum is rock solid, the one after that we completely reversed the momentum and started to hammer them.


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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby wixfjord » March 23rd, 2017, 3:08 pm

Not sure what thread to stick this in, but anyone hear that James Ryan was with the senior team and kitted out at the England game?
Would be some vote of confidence in him if true!
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » March 23rd, 2017, 3:34 pm

wixfjord wrote:Not sure what thread to stick this in, but anyone hear that James Ryan was with the senior team and kitted out at the England game?
Would be some vote of confidence in him if true!


that strikes me as training with rather than being part of the squad (which is something they do a lot with players of that age/ilk); cant see Roux or Toner being overlooked for someone with no caps and no games for 6 months
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby wixfjord » March 23rd, 2017, 3:39 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:
wixfjord wrote:Not sure what thread to stick this in, but anyone hear that James Ryan was with the senior team and kitted out at the England game?
Would be some vote of confidence in him if true!


that strikes me as training with rather than being part of the squad (which is something they do a lot with players of that age/ilk); cant see Roux or Toner being overlooked for someone with no caps and no games for 6 months


He's injured at the moment though right? Slightly different to bringing in guys like Ringrose etc. Positive for the guy in any case.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby goreyguy » March 23rd, 2017, 3:46 pm

Did it even happen? Consider my skeptical...
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Dave Cahill » March 23rd, 2017, 4:45 pm

Joe brings a different young player in to the squad environment for every match
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Raydollard » March 23rd, 2017, 5:02 pm

We seem to be doing well without a scrum coach
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby goreyguy » March 23rd, 2017, 5:14 pm

Raydollard wrote:We seem to be doing well without a scrum coach


Whats John Fogarty doing then?
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