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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 11th, 2019, 12:49 pm

These players look like they are likely in the incoming class:

Tom Clarkson(Prop/Blackrock/DUFC)(U19)
John McKee(Hooker/Campbell/Old Belvedere)(U19)
Charlie Ryan(Lock/Blackrock/UCD)(U20)
Martin Moloney(Backrow/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere)(U20)
Liam Turner(Centre-Wing/Blackrock/DUFC)(U20)

Have heard conflicting info on Cormac Foley.

Could see Ronan Watters and a few other the current under-20's be involved in preseason and given another look and join then ala Dan Sheehan this season.

Same goes for next years under-20's.

Apparently the Celtic Cup kicks off 24th August and runs until the 12th October, would expect this team to be younger than last years given WC, so mostly under-20.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 11th, 2019, 2:16 pm

Ireland U20 v Itay U20, World Rugby U20 World Championship, Pool B, (Club de Rugby Atheneo Immaculada, Santa Fe, Wednesday, 13th June 2019, 2.30pm Irish time)
15. Jake Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
14. Angus Kernohan (Queen’s University/Ulster)
13. Liam Turner (Dublin University/Leinster) Captain
12. Cormac Foley (St.Mary’s College/Leinster)
11. Rob Russell (Dublin University/Leinster)

10. Ben Healy (Garryowen/Munster)
9. Colm Reilly (Buccaneers/Connacht)
1. Josh Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)
2. John McKee (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
3. Michael Milne (UCD/Leinster)

4. Thomas Ahern (Shannon/Munster)
5. Ryan Baird (Dublin University/Leinster)
6. David McCann (Banbridge/Ulster)
7. Ciaran Booth (Sale Sharks/IQ Rugby)
8. Azur Allison (Ballymena/Ulster)

Replacements:
16. Declan Adamson (Clontarf/Leinster)
17. Tom Clarkson (Dublin University/Leinster)
18. Charlie Ward (Clontarf/Leinster)

19. Dylan Tierney-Martin (Corinthians/Connacht
20. Charlie Ryan (UCD/Leinster)
21. Niall Murray (Buccaneers/Connacht)
22. Luke Clohessy (Shannon/Munster) *
24. Craig Casey (Shannon/Munster)
25. Jonathan Wren (Cork Constitution/Munster)
26. David Ryan (UCD/Leinster) *
27. Aaron O’Sullivan (UCD/Leinster) *
28. Max O’Reilly (Dublin University/Leinster) *
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby Workhorse » June 11th, 2019, 2:26 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:David Ryan(St. Michaels/UCD) drafted into the u20 squad.


Adam LaGrue must feel a bit pi**ed off having been in 34-man panel and now overlooked twice with replacements.


I'd assume they wanted a specialist 12 in because there's only really Foley that can play there left in the squad.
I'd hope though that they sent Adam a message explaining this because to be in the extended squad and see someone not in it called up before you would piss most people off I'd imagine.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 11th, 2019, 2:28 pm

LaGrue has experience on the wing though, so could have been called up there ahead of O'Sullivan or O'Reilly.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby leinsterforever » June 11th, 2019, 2:36 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:These players look like they are likely in the incoming class:

Tom Clarkson(Prop/Blackrock/DUFC)(U19)
John McKee(Hooker/Campbell/Old Belvedere)(U19)
Charlie Ryan(Lock/Blackrock/UCD)(U20)
Martin Moloney(Backrow/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere)(U20)
Liam Turner(Centre-Wing/Blackrock/DUFC)(U20)

Have heard conflicting info on Cormac Foley.

Could see Ronan Watters and a few other the current under-20's be involved in preseason and given another look and join then ala Dan Sheehan this season.

Same goes for next years under-20's.

Apparently the Celtic Cup kicks off 24th August and runs until the 12th October, would expect this team to be younger than last years given WC, so mostly under-20.


Do you think? The league doesn't start till September 27. It could be a good chance for the likes of Kelleher, Abdaladze, Doris, O'Sullivan, JOB and even Dooley to get into a groove before the Pro14 kicks off, à la Conor O'Brien last season. Plus, JRWC players will probably need a break, no?
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 11th, 2019, 2:39 pm

leinsterforever wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:These players look like they are likely in the incoming class:

Tom Clarkson(Prop/Blackrock/DUFC)(U19)
John McKee(Hooker/Campbell/Old Belvedere)(U19)
Charlie Ryan(Lock/Blackrock/UCD)(U20)
Martin Moloney(Backrow/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere)(U20)
Liam Turner(Centre-Wing/Blackrock/DUFC)(U20)

Have heard conflicting info on Cormac Foley.

Could see Ronan Watters and a few other the current under-20's be involved in preseason and given another look and join then ala Dan Sheehan this season.

Same goes for next years under-20's.

Apparently the Celtic Cup kicks off 24th August and runs until the 12th October, would expect this team to be younger than last years given WC, so mostly under-20.


Do you think? The league doesn't start till September 27. It could be a good chance for the likes of Kelleher, Abdaladze, Doris, O'Sullivan, JOB and even Dooley to get into a groove before the Pro14 kicks off, à la Conor O'Brien last season. Plus, JRWC players will probably need a break, no?


More than likely it will be a mix and match, early rounds for the 20s lads and getting steadily some more experienced players playing into September, not dis-similar to this season but we shall wait and see.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 11th, 2019, 2:55 pm

seen a rumour that Jack Aungier might be joining Clontarf.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby cormac » June 11th, 2019, 3:46 pm

leinsterforever wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:These players look like they are likely in the incoming class:

Tom Clarkson(Prop/Blackrock/DUFC)(U19)
John McKee(Hooker/Campbell/Old Belvedere)(U19)
Charlie Ryan(Lock/Blackrock/UCD)(U20)
Martin Moloney(Backrow/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere)(U20)
Liam Turner(Centre-Wing/Blackrock/DUFC)(U20)

Have heard conflicting info on Cormac Foley.

Could see Ronan Watters and a few other the current under-20's be involved in preseason and given another look and join then ala Dan Sheehan this season.

Same goes for next years under-20's.

Apparently the Celtic Cup kicks off 24th August and runs until the 12th October, would expect this team to be younger than last years given WC, so mostly under-20.


Do you think? The league doesn't start till September 27. It could be a good chance for the likes of Kelleher, Abdaladze, Doris, O'Sullivan, JOB and even Dooley to get into a groove before the Pro14 kicks off, à la Conor O'Brien last season. Plus, JRWC players will probably need a break, no?


If the Celtic Cup does start on the 24th August, the first match will clash with our pre-season friendly against Canada in Toronto. We'll presumably have other pre-season friendlies in between that match and the start of the Pro14 so that would mean a young and presumably very inexperienced side in the Celtic Cup.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby riocard911 » June 11th, 2019, 4:08 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:seen a rumour that Jack Aungier might be joining Clontarf.


Would make sense logistically for a Sutton/Howth head.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby Ruckedtobits » June 12th, 2019, 7:40 am

riocard911 wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:seen a rumour that Jack Aungier might be joining Clontarf.


Would make sense logistically for a Sutton/Howth head.


But makes no sense of Leinster Protocol that every Academy player should be selected by their Club as first-choice AIL player. Don't they already have Vahk and, theoretically at least, Furlong. Charlie Ward, who is named in Irish U.20 Squad this weekend, is also listed as Clontarf. None of these players were developed by Clontarf but "recruited" by them. What attraction does Clontarf offer? Accomodation, Car? Hard to think they all just love the view.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 12th, 2019, 7:42 am

Blackrock College RFC on twitter saying Aaron O'Sullivan is joining them from UCD, which would be an odd move, probably focusing on 7's next year anyway.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 12th, 2019, 7:45 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:
riocard911 wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:seen a rumour that Jack Aungier might be joining Clontarf.


Would make sense logistically for a Sutton/Howth head.


But makes no sense of Leinster Protocol that every Academy player should be selected by their Club as first-choice AIL player. Don't they already have Vahk and, theoretically at least, Furlong. Charlie Ward, who is named in Irish U.20 Squad this weekend, is also listed as Clontarf. None of these players were developed by Clontarf but "recruited" by them. What attraction does Clontarf offer? Accomodation, Car? Hard to think they all just love the view.



Vakh rarely played AIL last season so not sure thats a barrier for Aungier getting gametime.

and what was Aungier's attraction to either St. Marys or Terenure?

there are far more connections between suttonians and tarf than suttonians and those clubs who recruited him out of school and after his under-20 season.

Aungier needs to show notable progress next season, which is crazy to say as he is still just 20, but with Clarksons emergence this season he will be feeling pressure.

Ward will still be under-20 next season so his game time at AIL will be limited.

Clontarf have a good record in developing props so hopefully it works out for him and leinster.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 13th, 2019, 7:53 am

Review of italy game:

13. Liam Turner (Dublin University) - strong game in defense, limited chances in attack but looked good when on the ball.
12. Cormac Foley (St.Mary’s College) - did well to be in position to score his try, went well enough considering he was playing out of position, with some classy offloads but also some poor KOs and defence at 12 as to be expected.
11. Rob Russell (Dublin University) - finished his try well, but also left dropped a certain try on the line. got limited ball.
2. John McKee (Old Belvedere) - some poor lineout overthrows, part of a weak scrum but hard to know how much to blame for that he was, not very notable in open play.
3. Michael Milne (UCD) - scored a try, carried well and put in a big shift playing 80 mins after moving to 1 in 2nd half. Struggled hugely at TH, but scrummed better when at LH.
5. Ryan Baird (DUFC) - scored a try, put in a huge shift carrying the ball and in defense, moved to 6 when injuries struck. good game in lineout stealing a couple and calling the leinster lineout until Ryan came on.

16. Declan Adamson(Clontarf) - unused sub.
17. Tom Clarkson(DUFC) - came on at TH, saved the irish scrum and was generally very good in the loose as per usual.
18. Charlie Ward(Clontarf) - unused sub.
20. Charlie Ryan(UCD) - came on in the 1st half and played 5, usual performance from him being good generally without being flashy.
26. David Ryan(UCD) - came on at 78 mins, had one strong carry off a scrum.
27. Aaron O'Sullivan(UCD) - unused sub.
28. Max O'Reilly(DUFC) - came on at 78 mins, had one involvement of note where he dealt with a bouncing ball well enough.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 14th, 2019, 9:44 pm

Brian Deeny(Wexford/Clontarf/U19) called up to u20 squad.
No sign of 2nd replacement yet.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 14th, 2019, 10:32 pm

David Hawkshaw tore his ACL, LCL and hamstring in 20s training during 6 nations.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » June 15th, 2019, 10:23 am

Noel McNamara taking up a role in our academy according to the Indo.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby wixfjord » June 15th, 2019, 10:38 am

Great news, would be awful to see him going (back) south.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 15th, 2019, 10:57 am

Interesting thought andy wood was replacing peter smyth.. so unless thats wrong its another role
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » June 16th, 2019, 8:17 pm

IRELAND UNDER-20 Team & Replacements (v England Under-20s, 2019 World Rugby U-20 Championship – 5th-8th Place Play-Off, Club Old Resian, Rosario, Argentina, Monday, June 17, kick-off 3.30pm local time/7.30pm Irish time):

15. Jake Flannery (Shannon/Munster)
14. Aaron O’Sullivan (Exile/UCD/Leinster) *
13. Liam Turner (Blackrock College/Dublin University/Leinster) (capt)
12. David Ryan (St. Michael's College/UCD/Leinster)

11. Jonathan Wren (Cork Constitution/Munster)
10. Ben Healy (Garryowen/Munster)
9. Craig Casey (Shannon/Munster)
1. Michael Milne (CC Roscrea/UCD/Leinster)
2. Dylan Tierney-Martin (Corinthians/Connacht)
3. Charlie Ward (Tullow RFC/Clontarf/Leinster)
4. Charlie Ryan (Blackrock College/UCD/Leinster) (capt)

5. Thomas Ahern (Shannon/Munster)
6. Ryan Baird (St. Michael's College/Dublin University/Leinster)
7. Ronan Watters (St. Mary’s College/St. Mary’s College/Leinster)

8. Azur Allison (Ballymena/Ulster)

Replacements:

16. Declan Adamson (Clontarf RFC/Clontarf/Leinster)
17. Thomas Clarkson (Blackrock College/Dublin University/Leinster)

18. Josh Wycherley (Young Munster/Munster)
19. John McKee (Campbell College/Old Belvedere/Leinster)
20. Brian Deeny (Wexford RFC/Clontarf/Leinster)

21. Niall Murray (Buccaneers/Connacht)
22. Luke Clohessy (Shannon/Munster)
24. Colm Reilly (Buccaneers/Connacht)
25. Rob Russell (St. Michael’s College/Dublin University/Leinster)
26. Cormac Foley (St. Gerard's College/St. Mary’s College/Leinster)

27. Angus Kernohan (Queen’s University/Ulster)
28. Max O’Reilly (St. Gerard's College/Dublin University/Leinster)
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby sunshiner1 » June 17th, 2019, 2:12 am

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Noel McNamara taking up a role in our academy according to the Indo.


I'm assuming while still retaining his U20 Irish duties?
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