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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby wixfjord » July 5th, 2019, 7:23 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:BTW, I think there's an (outside) chance that Dunne or, more likely Baird, may by-pass Molony. Dunne had a stellar first season and is owed one by the Club (and Stan Wright). Although only given a passing chance last Season, he reallt grew into the position, whilst never quite looking as co-ordinated as you'd like for a modern second-row - more Bob Casey than Brad Thorn.

Baird startduring JWC 2019 to develop the potential which has been evident in the Academy for 12-18 months, in terms of his physical potential. Subject to his coachibility, he is in the James Ryan league in terms of his physical capacity - nobody is yet certain whether he is even in the same sport mentally, as "The Big Cheese", but don't rule it out. Leo knows the position. He knows Noel Mc and he knows how much Baird developed during the JWC. I don't think Baird will be left "to naturally mature" within this Squad.


'Owed one by the club'?!

Come on, that's ridiculous.

Firstly, he's 'owed' nothing by Leinster.

Secondly, there's not a hope Leo/Stu would take something like that into account in selection.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby Logorrhea » July 5th, 2019, 9:29 pm

Also,Moloney has had a really good year this year. He's on an upward curve himself if you ask me.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby wixfjord » July 6th, 2019, 10:10 am

Yep he has indeed. Really came into his own last season. Cut out a lot of mistakes and looked more effective going forward.
I think he'll be a vital player for us at the start of the year. Still only 25 too.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby Oldschool » July 6th, 2019, 11:42 am

Molony fan club out in force.
Lads, word to the wise, you're way too obvious.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby wixfjord » July 6th, 2019, 2:41 pm

Oldschool wrote:Molony fan club out in force.
Lads, word to the wise, you're way too obvious.


He's no Mick O'Driscoll I'll give you that.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby Oldschool » July 6th, 2019, 8:51 pm

wixfjord wrote:
Oldschool wrote:Molony fan club out in force.
Lads, word to the wise, you're way too obvious.


He's no Mick O'Driscoll I'll give you that.

Progress at last.
In fact if I were Molony, I'd be upset that one of his biggest fans or any Leinster fan for that matter would suggest that MOC would be in the same league as Molony.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby wixfjord » July 6th, 2019, 9:03 pm

Oldschool wrote:
wixfjord wrote:
Oldschool wrote:Molony fan club out in force.
Lads, word to the wise, you're way too obvious.


He's no Mick O'Driscoll I'll give you that.

Progress at last.
In fact if I were Molony, I'd be upset that one of his biggest fans or any Leinster fan for that matter would suggest that MOC would be in the same league as Molony.
Wash your mouth out sir.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby leinsterforever » July 11th, 2019, 4:14 pm

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LeRouxIsPHat wrote:The more I think of it the more I reckon we should start this campaign with the bulk of the guys who'll start the league season with us. I could be wrong but I think the players in the World Cup training squad will purely be with Ireland until they're cut/come back from Japan. Our players didn't really get that much time off (I know they have regular breaks during the summer) so will have gone straight from playing tough knockout games to three months of intense prep for Japan, and then who knows how that goes. I assume we'll get to the QF which will be on the 19/20th of October, and a semi final would mean that we're there until the start of November.

No matter how the World Cup goes I'd prefer if they had a decent break at that stage, back those who are here to do the needful and then integrate the others back and have them rescue things in the four remaining games if necessary.


It'd be inetresting to see how that team would get on anyway.

1. Dooley, 2. Cronin, 3. Bent, 4. Molony, 5. Fardy, 6. Ruddock, 7. Connors, 8. Deegan, 9. Gibson-Park, 10. Byrne, 11. Lowe, 12. C. O'Brien, 13. O'Loughlin, 14. Daly, 15. Frawley; 16. Tracy, 17. Byrne, 18. Abdaladze, 19. Dunne, 20. Doris, 21. Patterson/O'Sullivan, 22. J. O'Brien, 23. D. Kearney/Adam Byrne

Cronin, Ruddock and Ross Byrne could all make the cut and not be around, obviously. There'll be injuries as well, so it's quite likely Ruddock will end up in Japan even if he doesn't make it initially. If the backrowers taken are POM, JvdF, Murphy, Stander and Conan, I'd say Ruddock would be the first to get the call if anyone went down.

If those guys are really performing well and the guys coming back from Japan are a bit fatigued and possibly jaded, I wouldn't mind seeing a bit of mix-and-match anyway - to reward form.


Further to this, I guess it'll be Healy, Furlong, Toner, Ryan, van der Flier, Sexton, Henshaw, Ringrose and Robert Kearney who'll have the really heavy workload at the World Cup. Cronin, Porter, Ruddock, Conan, McGrath, Ross Byrne and Jordan Larmour could be comparatively fresh even if they are just off the plane from Japan.

So a 'rested' team not featuring the former group of players might look something like:

1. Dooley, 2. Cronin, 3. Bent, 4. Molony, 5. Fardy, 6. Ruddock, 7. Connors, 8. Conan, 9. Gibson-Park, 10. Byrne, 11. Lowe, 12. C. O'Brien, 13. O'Loughlin, 14. Daly, 15. Larmour; 16. Tracy, 17. Byrne, 18. Porter, 19. Dunne, 20. Deegan, 21. McGrath, 22. Frawley, 23. D. Kearney/Adam Byrne

I like Barry Daly, but others might think Adam Byrne or David Kearney or Fergus McFadden would be better picks on the right wing. Certainly a lot of options there.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby Serb » July 11th, 2019, 5:06 pm

I don’t think Ross Byrne or Luke McGrath will go to the World Cup to be honest. I feel like we’ll take two 10s in Sexton and Carbery, and I think McGrath’s form towards the end of last season played him out of contention for Japan.

Either way, they’ll be part of the rested group whether it is being managed by Leinster or sitting on the bench for a few weeks for Ireland.

It’ll be interesting if Byrne isn’t available for Leinster during the World Cup with Reid gone. Frawley or Harry Byrne will need to step up for those few games. Would love to see what they’re like after a run of games.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby Flash Gordon » July 12th, 2019, 12:35 pm

Serb wrote:I don’t think Ross Byrne or Luke McGrath will go to the World Cup to be honest. I feel like we’ll take two 10s in Sexton and Carbery, and I think McGrath’s form towards the end of last season played him out of contention for Japan.

Either way, they’ll be part of the rested group whether it is being managed by Leinster or sitting on the bench for a few weeks for Ireland.

It’ll be interesting if Byrne isn’t available for Leinster during the World Cup with Reid gone. Frawley or Harry Byrne will need to step up for those few games. Would love to see what they’re like after a run of games.


Also the fact that Cooney did well when given a chance as Joe clearly wasn't a believer. I think he might take Byrne, Joey covers two positions on the one hand and the other considerations i that Sexton and Carbery are both very injury prone.
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