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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby Laighin Break » January 17th, 2018, 11:23 am

This conversation with Stuart Lancaster was a very good listen:

https://findingmastery.net/stuart-lancaster/
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby Peg Leg » January 17th, 2018, 1:26 pm

Laighin Break wrote:This conversation with Stuart Lancaster was a very good listen:

https://findingmastery.net/stuart-lancaster/
Added to the queue. Thanks for that.
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby Oldschool » January 17th, 2018, 3:34 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:
blockhead wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Even Darcy has picked up a pitchfork over Grobbler now, best part was saying hes a placeholder until Tadhg Beirne signs and then calling him a project player


uh oh, tis one thing when a "D4" Journo does it, but when its a ex ladyboy
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ladyboy Not a word I fancy in any cicumstances, given the usage in the Southern Hemisphere

Nonetheless a very accurate estimation of Leinster packs v French packs (in particular) in the early professional days.
Think of it back in day usage rather than in current day PC.
Or if you prefer pussies as in pussycats (Lions???) because that was the way I think it was intended at the time.
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby TheBear » January 17th, 2018, 4:21 pm

Oldschool wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:ladyboy Not a word I fancy in any cicumstances, given the usage in the Southern Hemisphere

Nonetheless a very accurate estimation of Leinster packs v French packs (in particular) in the early professional days.
Think of it back in day usage rather than in current day PC.
Or if you prefer pussies as in pussycats (Lions???) because that was the way I think it was intended at the time.
Should I duck now or wait for my head to be taken off first.

Pussies did not refer to pussycats.
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby simonokeeffe » January 17th, 2018, 4:45 pm

Franno is also a serial homophobe so theres that too
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby mildlyinterested » January 18th, 2018, 6:03 pm

Rhys Ruddock hoping to be back by the end of the season was on luke fitzs podcast
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A whiff of Cordite

Postby artaneboy » January 18th, 2018, 11:59 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Rhys Ruddock hoping to be back by the end of the season was on luke fitzs podcast

Pfff. That’s not that reassuring- is it? Well obviously it was close to the worst case feared scenario.


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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby deco » January 19th, 2018, 1:53 am

Never forget that Franno also referred to Munster as Ladyboys. Equally as offensive, but evens up the slagging rights.
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby simonokeeffe » January 19th, 2018, 12:47 pm

ROC joining the back slapping of himself for the Grobbler putsch. Its Joe Duffy stuff now
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby CiaranIrl » January 19th, 2018, 1:54 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:ROC joining the back slapping of himself for the Grobbler putsch. Its Joe Duffy stuff now


I'm getting pretty sick and tired of the holier than thou sh!t now. You would think Munster had signed Lance Armstrong or Ben Johnson the way Newstalk in particular are going on.

Very interesting to hear Del Fava interviewed about it. You know the guy, right? Played for Ulster after being done for doping. Way back before everyone decided to become holy crusaders on every issue.

Hopefully there will be a few calls to re-review the Frankie Sheehan case now in light of what we know about Chris Froome.
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby Dexter » January 19th, 2018, 2:00 pm

CiaranIrl wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:ROC joining the back slapping of himself for the Grobbler putsch. Its Joe Duffy stuff now


I'm getting pretty sick and tired of the holier than thou sh!t now. You would think Munster had signed Lance Armstrong or Ben Johnson the way Newstalk in particular are going on.

Very interesting to hear Del Fava interviewed about it. You know the guy, right? Played for Ulster after being done for doping. Way back before everyone decided to become holy crusaders on every issue.

Hopefully there will be a few calls to re-review the Frankie Sheehan case now in light of what we know about Chris Froome.

Once these lads get onto Newstalk's OTB they lose the run of themselves... smug self congratulation from then on.
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby fourthirtythree » January 19th, 2018, 2:01 pm

Yeah, for all the talk of Del Fava and him being a first, Frankie Sheehan was the first name to pop into my mind.

But that isn't some furriner and people probably still want access to his clients.
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby rooster » January 19th, 2018, 2:17 pm

The man has done his time and made a return to sport so if the authority in charge of the ban is happy with their ban then too should everyone else. Let him get on with his life, was there a lack of news in Limerick this week ?
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby paddyor » January 19th, 2018, 2:39 pm

fourthirtythree wrote:Yeah, for all the talk of Del Fava and him being a first, Frankie Sheehan was the first name to pop into my mind.

But that isn't some furriner and people probably still want access to his clients.
Don't think he's agenting anymore.
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby Peg Leg » January 19th, 2018, 3:34 pm

CiaranIrl wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:ROC joining the back slapping of himself for the Grobbler putsch. Its Joe Duffy stuff now


I'm getting pretty sick and tired of the holier than thou sh!t now. You would think Munster had signed Lance Armstrong or Ben Johnson the way Newstalk in particular are going on.

Very interesting to hear Del Fava interviewed about it. You know the guy, right? Played for Ulster after being done for doping. Way back before everyone decided to become holy crusaders on every issue.

Hopefully there will be a few calls to re-review the Frankie Sheehan case now in light of what we know about Chris Froome.
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby simonokeeffe » January 19th, 2018, 7:09 pm

you give the people that dont like rugby for whatever reason a chance to have a go at it and boy they take it

Rugby is the only major professional sport/league we have here, sorry LOI
So the football based journos/pundits have zero reference point for players moving here or the players based in Ireland being a major talking point. The Athlone Town betting scandal died down very quickly despite being a cross border well orchestrated fraud case involving many people

GAA is so locally based and amateur theyre at the far end of the scale and kids have to travel miles further to play because its so rigidly parish based; they get to wash their hands over anything vaguely professional related even though the GAA has a huge recreational drug problem and their anti doping is reasonably lax
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby Laighin Break » January 20th, 2018, 10:45 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:you give the people that dont like rugby for whatever reason a chance to have a go at it and boy they take it

Rugby is the only major professional sport/league we have here, sorry LOI
So the football based journos/pundits have zero reference point for players moving here or the players based in Ireland being a major talking point. The Athlone Town betting scandal died down very quickly despite being a cross border well orchestrated fraud case involving many people

GAA is so locally based and amateur theyre at the far end of the scale and kids have to travel miles further to play because its so rigidly parish based; they get to wash their hands over anything vaguely professional related even though the GAA has a huge recreational drug problem and their anti doping is reasonably lax


First I've heard of this. Care to provide a source for your claim?
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby Dave Cahill » January 20th, 2018, 10:53 pm

All GAA members are subject to the Irish Sports Council rules on doping which have been integrated wholesale into the rulebook
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby simonokeeffe » January 20th, 2018, 11:52 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:All GAA members are subject to the Irish Sports Council rules on doping which have been integrated wholesale into the rulebook


Less than a hundred GAA players were tested last year, thats not just inter county, out of how many?
Thats an average of less than two per team per year even if it was just intercounty

@LaighinBreak Ive witnessed it first hand more than once. And I have first hand accounts from others too. Not saying teams or clubs that I or others have seen at it or partied with as that gives it away so youre going to have to trust me
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Re: A whiff of Cordite

Postby Dave Cahill » January 21st, 2018, 1:30 am

simonokeeffe wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:All GAA members are subject to the Irish Sports Council rules on doping which have been integrated wholesale into the rulebook


Less than a hundred GAA players were tested last year, thats not just inter county, out of how many?
Thats an average of less than two per team per year even if it was just intercounty

@LaighinBreak Ive witnessed it first hand more than once. And I have first hand accounts from others too. Not saying teams or clubs that I or others have seen at it or partied with as that gives it away so youre going to have to trust me


Thats up to the Sports Council - they tend to weight their resources towards sports like Athletics and Cycling where doping is pretty much endemic at the elite levels. The GAA with its huge number of non-elite participants would be pretty much near the bottom of the list in terms of those resources.
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