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Avenger wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:Leinster will still be the preferred choice by most (if not all) schoolboys.
What was implied was that Nucifora would decide which academy each schoolboy would be sent to.
Hard to see how that will work given college etc. But i'm sure he will try.
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Avenger wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:Leinster will still be the preferred choice by most (if not all) schoolboys.
What was implied was that Nucifora would decide which academy each schoolboy would be sent to.
So now he's dragging screaming kids from their mother's arms. That man's evil has no bounds.
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:lol:

Will have to have another listen to make sure I’m not going mad.
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As with any notion of equality of outcome, the end result is achieved only by bringing everyone down to the same level
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Avenger wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:Leinster will still be the preferred choice by most (if not all) schoolboys.
What was implied was that Nucifora would decide which academy each schoolboy would be sent to.
:lol:
Right so, it's time to burn this place to the ground. That's like Donald Trump deciding which refugees are entitled to US asylum.
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My God, the threat to Leinster Rugby is taking on biblical dimensions with Lucifora as either Herod or the Pharaoh (take your pick). To which I reply "Set my people free!!!"
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Nucifora isn't trying to weaken Leinster, he's trying to strengthen everyone else. Occasionally Leinster will suffer as a byproduct of that, but so be it as far as he's concerned.

Now, I think he's doing a really poor job - none of the provinces are any stronger than they were when he arrived in, he is reportedly persona non grata in the only province that is successful, the Irish team isn't appreciably better than it was when he arrived in, we still haven't won a knockout match at the world cup, the sevens still haven't qualified for the Olympics and the concept has proved, in the signing of John Porch, to be a complete waste of money, the WNT has gone backwards at a rate of knots and we still have a big churn in coaches and a lack of native coaches in the Irish system - but Leinster has little or nothing to do with it
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Ok so I’m not going mad.

Murray Kinsella said
“Talk is that Nucifora will have greater control of academy’s and be able to move players at that level. It’ll be really interesting to see younger players moving from their native province to ensure the national pipeline is best served.”
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Avenger wrote:Ok so I’m not going mad.

Murray Kinsella said
“Talk is that Nucifora will have greater control of academy’s and be able to move players at that level. It’ll be really interesting to see younger players moving from their native province to ensure the national pipeline is best served.”
Time that he was told to f%~k off by Leinster.
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the spoofer wrote:
Avenger wrote:Ok so I’m not going mad.

Murray Kinsella said
“Talk is that Nucifora will have greater control of academy’s and be able to move players at that level. It’ll be really interesting to see younger players moving from their native province to ensure the national pipeline is best served.”
Time that he was told to f%~k off by Leinster.
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That level of interference could see promising young lads leave the sport altogether.
I assume the usual risk will apply to any young man that refuses their "advice".
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I'm struggling to see what the point of this even is. If you're about to join the Leinster academy and go to UCD then what's the point of being moved to anther academy and going to a different college? You're years away from first team games anyway so why bother? Especially when you know that the Leinster academy is likely to improve you more.

It's a different kettle of fish once your time in the academy is up, or if you haven't got an academy (or sub) offer from your own province, but if the idea is that he spots gaps in other provinces and fills them with schoolkids then it's a nonsense.

It's also an unnecessary expense. I'd imagine most of the Leinster academy lads live at home, so now you've to provide accom and potentially a car for them as well.
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You can move as much young talent as you want and it might make the aesthetics look good around the place but certain provinces will just butcher it.


Oh and best of luck to Bill Johnston up at Ulster next season hopefully he is rewarded with significant game time to match his talents.
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Name one Munster produced player who is first choice and is under 25. Not one. It would be like sending your Ferrari to a back street garage.
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Dave Cahill wrote:Nucifora isn't trying to weaken Leinster, he's trying to strengthen everyone else. Occasionally Leinster will suffer as a byproduct of that, but so be it as far as he's concerned.

Now, I think he's doing a really poor job - none of the provinces are any stronger than they were when he arrived in, he is reportedly persona non grata in the only province that is successful, the Irish team isn't appreciably better than it was when he arrived in, we still haven't won a knockout match at the world cup, the sevens still haven't qualified for the Olympics and the concept has proved, in the signing of John Porch, to be a complete waste of money, the WNT has gone backwards at a rate of knots and we still have a big churn in coaches and a lack of native coaches in the Irish system - but Leinster has little or nothing to do with it
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blockhead wrote:That level of interference could see promising young lads leave the sport altogether.
I assume the usual risk will apply to any young man that refuses their "advice".
I would advise any academy player that goes for a meeting with the irfu to quietly set their phone to record the conversation. If any kid gets told that their future is at risk because they refused to move university, the courts should hear about it.
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Avenger wrote:Ok so I’m not going mad.

Murray Kinsella said
“Talk is that Nucifora will have greater control of academy’s and be able to move players at that level. It’ll be really interesting to see younger players moving from their native province to ensure the national pipeline is best served.”
How much is he prepared to pay for it is the question I suppose.
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Peg Leg wrote:
Avenger wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:Leinster will still be the preferred choice by most (if not all) schoolboys.
What was implied was that Nucifora would decide which academy each schoolboy would be sent to.
:lol:
Right so, it's time to burn this place to the ground. That's like Donald Trump deciding which refugees are entitled to US asylum.
Not quite The Donald is an American so he would understand the American equivalent of the mother and her child situation, perhaps even more so given the fact that many of their sons and daughters have given their lives to protect not only themselves but our good selves too.
Nucifora wouldn't have that kind of insider understanding although it is fair to say that the Aussies have pulled their weight in defending the "free world".
I'm sure most of us wouldn't be wishing him (Nucifora) well in this endeavour, so he has that much in common with Trump.
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I'm struggling to see what the point of this even is. If you're about to join the Leinster academy and go to UCD then what's the point of being moved to anther academy and going to a different college? You're years away from first team games anyway so why bother? Especially when you know that the Leinster academy is likely to improve you more.

It's a different kettle of fish once your time in the academy is up, or if you haven't got an academy (or sub) offer from your own province, but if the idea is that he spots gaps in other provinces and fills them with schoolkids then it's a nonsense.

It's also an unnecessary expense. I'd imagine most of the Leinster academy lads live at home, so now you've to provide accom and potentially a car for them as well.
The coaching you'll get is the thing isn't it.
Who wouldn't want Lancaster to coach them.
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Oldschool wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I'm struggling to see what the point of this even is. If you're about to join the Leinster academy and go to UCD then what's the point of being moved to anther academy and going to a different college? You're years away from first team games anyway so why bother? Especially when you know that the Leinster academy is likely to improve you more.

It's a different kettle of fish once your time in the academy is up, or if you haven't got an academy (or sub) offer from your own province, but if the idea is that he spots gaps in other provinces and fills them with schoolkids then it's a nonsense.

It's also an unnecessary expense. I'd imagine most of the Leinster academy lads live at home, so now you've to provide accom and potentially a car for them as well.
The coaching you'll get is the thing isn't it.
Who wouldn't want Lancaster to coach them.
If it were only that easy.
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