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RoboProp · Post by **RoboProp** » February 4th, 2018, 9:47 pm

Peg Leg wrote:Dp

Durt!

Peg Leg · Post by **Peg Leg** » February 4th, 2018, 9:51 pm

RoboProp wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:Dp
Durt!

Gotta make a livin

nc6000 · Post by **nc6000** » February 5th, 2018, 10:45 am

I see Gavin Cummiskey in The Irish Times today saying "since the Bloodgate scandal an enforced sub cannot place kick". Obviously I'm familiar with Bloodgate and its fallout as I was at the game but were any laws actually changed as a result?

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ ... -1.3379619

cormac · Post by **cormac** » February 5th, 2018, 12:02 pm

nc6000 wrote:I see Gavin Cummiskey in The Irish Times today saying "since the Bloodgate scandal an enforced sub cannot place kick". Obviously I'm familiar with Bloodgate and its fallout as I was at the game but were any laws actually changed as a result?

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ ... -1.3379619

It's certainly part of the laws around HIAs.

Dave Cahill · Post by **Dave Cahill** » February 5th, 2018, 1:39 pm

Murray Kinsella has gotten confirmation from World Rugby that replacements can take place-kicks, the protocol was amended last year.

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » February 5th, 2018, 4:00 pm

While we are here, didnt Nige order off the French 10 for a HIA on instruction from the match doctor? But yet theres a lot of rabble rousing over it?

fourthirtythree · Post by **fourthirtythree** » February 5th, 2018, 4:43 pm

The first one Nigel called so the doctor went along. The Grauniad piece suggested that a hand gesture was misinterpreted by the pitch side doctor who was not in direct contact with the ref for the second and once it's called it ain't being changed. Given how bad he was throughout I wouldn't be surprised!

Don't think it was the fault of the French anyway.

Also, bet they regret not having Machenaud kick as they were entitled to.

the spoofer · Post by **the spoofer** » February 5th, 2018, 5:02 pm

Can we put to bed the myth that Nigel continues to be one of the worlds best ref's?

He was at one stage but I hate him reffing games where I am "invested" as he has made far too many crucial bad calls. The scrum penalty in Dunedin(??) the call against McGrath in "that" match in LR and the Kearney decision on Saturday are three that springs to mind. I'd much prefer Poite to ref games that Leinster/Ireland are involved in.

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » February 5th, 2018, 5:43 pm

the spoofer wrote:Can we put to bed the myth that Nigel continues to be one of the worlds best ref's?

He was at one stage but I hate him reffing games where I am "invested" as he has made far too many crucial bad calls. The scrum penalty in Dunedin(??) the call against McGrath in "that" match in LR and the Kearney decision on Saturday are three that springs to mind. I'd much prefer Poite to ref games that Leinster/Ireland are involved in.

He does seem to shy away from the whistle in close games/final stages

Cheers 433

RoboProp · Post by **RoboProp** » February 5th, 2018, 6:52 pm

the spoofer wrote:Can we put to bed the myth that Nigel continues to be one of the worlds best ref's?

He was at one stage but I hate him reffing games where I am "invested" as he has made far too many crucial bad calls. The scrum penalty in Dunedin(??) the call against McGrath in "that" match in LR and the Kearney decision on Saturday are three that springs to mind. I'd much prefer Poite to ref games that Leinster/Ireland are involved in.

I've been preaching this in an empty church since the time he got the call wrong against McGrath which cost us a win against NZ. BOD would have had his white whale landed but for that

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » February 5th, 2018, 7:05 pm

RoboProp wrote:
the spoofer wrote:Can we put to bed the myth that Nigel continues to be one of the worlds best ref's?

He was at one stage but I hate him reffing games where I am "invested" as he has made far too many crucial bad calls. The scrum penalty in Dunedin(??) the call against McGrath in "that" match in LR and the Kearney decision on Saturday are three that springs to mind. I'd much prefer Poite to ref games that Leinster/Ireland are involved in.
I've been preaching this in an empty church since the time he got the call wrong against McGrath which cost us a win against NZ. BOD would have had his white whale landed but for that

Yeah that was an awful decision.
We'd been bossing them all day in the scrum.

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » February 5th, 2018, 8:30 pm

Mentioned this one recently but the Aussie game where the ball hit a low flying camera wire and shouldve been an immediate scrum. Hes rugbys Herb Dean.

Hes still great for non clutch games, truly the Simon Zebo of refs

I just dont think hes the best of the best any more.

That said, hes still probably best non French European ref

fourthirtythree · Post by **fourthirtythree** » February 5th, 2018, 9:22 pm

On against the head they said, and showed footage of, a French player pointing to th head and calling for Owens to blow it up.

Not his fault then, my apologies. That's the second KIA (knee injury) I'm referring to.

sunshiner1 · Post by **sunshiner1** » February 6th, 2018, 2:20 am

by the spoofer

Can we put to bed the myth that Nigel continues to be one of the worlds best ref's?

He was at one stage but I hate him reffing games where I am "invested" as he has made far too many crucial bad calls. The scrum penalty in Dunedin(??) the call against McGrath in "that" match in LR and the Kearney decision on Saturday are three that springs to mind. I'd much prefer Poite to ref games that Leinster/Ireland are involved in.

My favorite Owens moment was Kieran Read punching Sean O'Brien no more than 5 metres from Owens in Dunedin who told him to 'go easy'. It should have being a straight Red for Read and a yellow for O'Brien for hitting back. Like I said before Owens is not a good ref it's just the least sh*t one we have right now. I personally think that Mitrea is under-rated.

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » February 6th, 2018, 12:25 pm

simonokeeffe wrote: Hes still great for non clutch games, truly the Simon Zebo of refs

Classic! Most appropriate description ever

neiliog93 · Post by **neiliog93** » February 6th, 2018, 12:45 pm

Oldschool wrote:
RoboProp wrote:
the spoofer wrote:Can we put to bed the myth that Nigel continues to be one of the worlds best ref's?

He was at one stage but I hate him reffing games where I am "invested" as he has made far too many crucial bad calls. The scrum penalty in Dunedin(??) the call against McGrath in "that" match in LR and the Kearney decision on Saturday are three that springs to mind. I'd much prefer Poite to ref games that Leinster/Ireland are involved in.
I've been preaching this in an empty church since the time he got the call wrong against McGrath which cost us a win against NZ. BOD would have had his white whale landed but for that
Yeah that was an awful decision.
We'd been bossing them all day in the scrum.

It wasn't a scrum penalty, it was a nonsense penalty with 10 seconds to go for going off his feet at the ruck.

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » February 6th, 2018, 1:50 pm

Didnt he shaft us in NZ with a bad scrum call? Possibli under Deccie?

Grumpy Old Man · Post by **Grumpy Old Man** » February 6th, 2018, 2:38 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:Didnt he shaft us in NZ with a bad scrum call? Possibli under Deccie?

Yes - here you go.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... lacks.html

riocard911 · Post by **riocard911** » February 6th, 2018, 3:54 pm

Grumpy Old Man wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Didnt he shaft us in NZ with a bad scrum call? Possibli under Deccie?
Yes - here you go.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... lacks.html

A week later they beat us 60-0 in Hamilton, the heaviest ever defeat of the Irish national team. That was the beginning of the end of Deccie's regime. Remember him calling up Paddy Wallace from his holliers to take on Sunny Bill, instead of selecting Darren Cave? Remember him subsequently stripping BO'D of the captaincy for question aspects of the coaching, thereby putting Jamie in an invidious position? It was all downhill from there........

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » February 6th, 2018, 4:08 pm

Grumpy Old Man wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Didnt he shaft us in NZ with a bad scrum call? Possibli under Deccie?
Yes - here you go.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyu ... lacks.html

Yeah that was the one I was thinking of.
Totally screwed us that day.

Babbling 'brook

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