A whiff of Cordite

blockhead · Post by **blockhead** » February 26th, 2018, 8:01 pm

Please.
No more links to that gobshite*'s excuse for journalism.
He must have got working for that once fine institution through a family connection or something.
Look how MNR on OffTheBall has improved recently.

suisse · Post by **suisse** » February 27th, 2018, 6:15 am

A couple of things here.

I just read the GC match report there. It's pretty amusing. He's turning into the Irish Times' version of Jamie Jackson. He just writes spectacular gibberish. These lines are best:

Man of the match was announced on 72 minutes. Well done Ciarán Frawley.

It was still an outing fraught with danger and worry for the Leinster medical team.

Pieter Scholtz could be famous.

It is really, really poor writing. He strikes me as someone who is trying desperately hard to put a unique spin on his writing. An alternative style. A little bit similar to Sid Lowe. Sid always tries to write his articles and reports like a story. I don't like that style but Lowe is obviously very popular. GC seems to be following the same method. In his head, he thinks he's intelligent, witty and creative. In reality, he's embarrassing. The cheek of the Irish Times asking for subscriptions when this is the level of cr@p we pay for.

Anyway, I wanted to talk Eddie O'Sullivan. I like EOS but his tribute to JH was a little disappointing. I thought Ferris tried to wind him up about his 2007 RWC omission. EOS could have said he felt there were more in-form players and the coaches supported it etc. But he really went on and on and on about the other back-rows and especially Denis Leamy. He's right, and he's entitled to pick who he wants. But I thought his response was a little sad.

suisse · Post by **suisse** » February 27th, 2018, 6:26 am

Gerry Thornley on Jamie Heaslip.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ ... -1.3406629

Gifted Heaslip perhaps the greatest Ireland number eight

Am I a bit weird to point this out....

he undoubtedly ranks as one of the great number eights

No other Irish number eight has accumulated as many caps

no other Irish number eight

as well as being the starting number eight

All within the first 5 paragraphs. The question I ask is, given Heaslip's number of caps and medals, and that he was first choice for Michael Cheika, Joe Schmidt, Declan Kidney, Leo Cullen and Warren Gatland, plus a brilliant injury profile until the England game, does Heaslip not deserve to considered one of the finest players we've produced, and not just "perhaps" the greatest number 8?

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » February 27th, 2018, 9:22 am

suisse wrote:Gerry Thornley on Jamie Heaslip.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/ ... -1.3406629

Gifted Heaslip perhaps the greatest Ireland number eight

Am I a bit weird to point this out....

he undoubtedly ranks as one of the great number eights

No other Irish number eight has accumulated as many caps

no other Irish number eight

as well as being the starting number eight
All within the first 5 paragraphs. The question I ask is, given Heaslip's number of caps and medals, and that he was first choice for Michael Cheika, Joe Schmidt, Declan Kidney, Leo Cullen and Warren Gatland, plus a brilliant injury profile until the England game, does Heaslip not deserve to considered one of the finest players we've produced, and not just "perhaps" the greatest number 8?

The individual in the woodpile for the anti Leinster mefia (The "f' is for fake) is Anthony Foley, who good player that he was, wasn't even the second best No. 8 to have played for Ireland but that doesn't suit teir narrative.

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » February 27th, 2018, 10:29 am

you are not wrong at all oldschool

LeRouxIsPHat · Post by **LeRouxIsPHat** » February 27th, 2018, 11:59 am

suisse wrote:
Anyway, I wanted to talk Eddie O'Sullivan. I like EOS but his tribute to JH was a little disappointing. I thought Ferris tried to wind him up about his 2007 RWC omission. EOS could have said he felt there were more in-form players and the coaches supported it etc. But he really went on and on and on about the other back-rows and especially Denis Leamy. He's right, and he's entitled to pick who he wants. But I thought his response was a little sad.

Why is EOS obliged to give a nice tribute? What value is in that? I thought it was obvious that he wasn't Jamie's biggest fan

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » February 27th, 2018, 12:47 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
suisse wrote:
Anyway, I wanted to talk Eddie O'Sullivan. I like EOS but his tribute to JH was a little disappointing. I thought Ferris tried to wind him up about his 2007 RWC omission. EOS could have said he felt there were more in-form players and the coaches supported it etc. But he really went on and on and on about the other back-rows and especially Denis Leamy. He's right, and he's entitled to pick who he wants. But I thought his response was a little sad.
Why is EOS obliged to give a nice tribute? What value is in that? I thought it was obvious that he wasn't Jamie's biggest fan

Wasnt Ferris also part of the 07 controversial exclusions? After getting one game at 7 of all places in the warm ups?

Dave Cahill · Post by **Dave Cahill** » February 27th, 2018, 12:52 pm

He played 7 relatively regularly the previous season, so that was hardly a odd selection

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » February 27th, 2018, 4:55 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:He played 7 relatively regularly the previous season, so that was hardly a odd selection

going to have to double down here and say he was never a 7 (even if he was picked there)

Dave Cahill · Post by **Dave Cahill** » February 27th, 2018, 5:06 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:He played 7 relatively regularly the previous season, so that was hardly a odd selection
going to have to double down here and say he was never a 7 (even if he was picked there)

He was a pretty decent 7 actually in the Wallace style - a lot of power and pace, not much of a groundhog

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » February 27th, 2018, 5:37 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:He played 7 relatively regularly the previous season, so that was hardly a odd selection
going to have to double down here and say he was never a 7 (even if he was picked there)
He was a pretty decent 7 actually in the Wallace style - a lot of power and pace, not much of a groundhog

So a good player out of position

Dave Cahill · Post by **Dave Cahill** » February 27th, 2018, 5:41 pm

simonokeeffe wrote: So a good player out of position

Not really. Ireland didn't need a traditional 7 because they had the two of the best groundhogs in world rugby playing 12 and 13 so we used power carriers at 7 during their time. Leamy, Wallace, Ferris all played 7 for Ireland during this period. Even SOB is in part a holdover from that style

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » February 27th, 2018, 5:57 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote: So a good player out of position
Not really. Ireland didn't need a traditional 7 because they had the two of the best groundhogs in world rugby playing 12 and 13 so we used power carriers at 7 during their time. Leamy, Wallace, Ferris all played 7 for Ireland during this period. Even SOB is in part a holdover from that style

Fez was going to be a 7 the same way DOC was going to be a 6

Dave Cahill · Post by **Dave Cahill** » February 27th, 2018, 6:27 pm

No, Fez was a seven for Ulster, Ireland and the Lions.

Oldschool · Post by **Oldschool** » February 27th, 2018, 7:09 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
suisse wrote:
Anyway, I wanted to talk Eddie O'Sullivan. I like EOS but his tribute to JH was a little disappointing. I thought Ferris tried to wind him up about his 2007 RWC omission. EOS could have said he felt there were more in-form players and the coaches supported it etc. But he really went on and on and on about the other back-rows and especially Denis Leamy. He's right, and he's entitled to pick who he wants. But I thought his response was a little sad.
Why is EOS obliged to give a nice tribute? What value is in that? I thought it was obvious that he wasn't Jamie's biggest fan

He's almost his smallest not fan tho'

simonokeeffe · Post by **simonokeeffe** » March 6th, 2018, 9:17 am

every rte.ie rugby article/analysis piece seems to be either replaceable with the word 'no' or Ireland team not expected to show any changes/surprises stretched to 1k words

Is the Ireland rugby team the new Jack's army? No
Are these the 3 key battles? No
Easter baking at Lidl? No
Furlong and Henderson face battle to regain shirts; it's just getting ridiculous now

paddyor · Post by **paddyor** » March 11th, 2018, 6:34 pm

As it was, Joe Schmidt’s incredible team are (PLEASE PUT IN WHETHER THEY ARE CHAMPIONS OR NOT) and could win a Grand Slam should they beat England at Twickenham on Saturday, which just so happens to be St Patrick’s Day.

If they pull it off, and it would take a brave man to bet against it, the feat would go down as one of the greatest in Ireland’s sporting history.

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/160 ... es/?ref=ar

It's still there.

RoboProp · Post by **RoboProp** » March 11th, 2018, 8:15 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:you are not wrong at all oldschool

I use people's opinion of Jamie as the new equivalent of DC's Paddy Wallace test.

Ruckedtobits · Post by **Ruckedtobits** » March 12th, 2018, 10:05 pm

I had forgotten how bad is Daire O'B on RTE. There are two women presenters who are streets ahead and exhibit enthusiasm and knowledge about the game. He is smarmy, detached and arrogant and does nothing to convince the viewer to stay connected.

Maybe he and Cumiskey should go to games together.

Oldschoolsocks · Post by **Oldschoolsocks** » March 13th, 2018, 10:28 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:I had forgotten how bad is Daire O'B on RTE. There are two women presenters who are streets ahead and exhibit enthusiasm and knowledge about the game. He is smarmy, detached and arrogant and does nothing to convince the viewer to stay connected.

Maybe he and Cumiskey should go to games together.

Go easy

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