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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby dropkick » December 4th, 2018, 12:13 am

Oldschool wrote:
sunshiner1 wrote:Rumours going around that offers have being made to Dooley and/or Ed Byrne by Connacht fans but so far it seems more wish fufilment rather than anything concrete.

Edit: You'd imagine that Ulster would be after one of these two as well.

Edit: Munster probably want both.

More likely Munster want all three.



It's unlikely Munster want a loosehead or hooker. Well stocked in those departments.


If Connacht offer Dooley a chance, he should grab it.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby sunshiner1 » December 4th, 2018, 2:10 am

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It'll be one or the other not both. Not sure it makes any sense. Ulster is the main opening at 1 in all 3 of the otehr provinces. And tbh I think it'd be a good move for one of them. They're only getting gametime on account of Healy and McGrath being with ireland.

And just as I say that Jack is out for 4-6 weeks after hip surgery.


I think it will be Ed Byrne he's 25 years old and coming into his prime. He's fighting it out for 3rd choice Loosehead with Dooley which is not really where he wants to be. He could walk into the Ulster first team in that position. As for Connacht they had Conan O'Donnell there but they're moving him back to Tighthead so will want someone to be their second choice LH and fight against Buckley.

I can't see JVDF or Leavy going anywhere.

edit: Will Connors was offered a Connacht contract last season and turned it down. He's played bugger all rugby for us in the first season so I could see him going to Connacht this time if they offered him a contract. Munster might be in for him too. TOD is 31 and crocked so getting a young IQ backrower in makes sense.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby mildlyinterested » December 4th, 2018, 6:51 am

Will Connors tore his ACL in pre season
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby R-Dog » December 4th, 2018, 10:52 am

You couldn't blame either of The Byrne twins for moving on for game time. They came out of school the same year as Leavy and both were as highly rated. Injury aside they struggle to make the Leinster H Cup bench where Leavy would be in the mix for a Lions tour if there was one this year.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby sunshiner1 » December 4th, 2018, 11:01 am

by mildlyinterested » December 4th, 2018, 6:51 am

Will Connors tore his ACL in pre season


Yeah forgot about that. It's still interesting if he moves though. Scott Penny is breathing down his neck and he's got SOB, Leavy and JDVF in front of him. You'd feel he could be the one to go. All guess work though.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby mildlyinterested » December 4th, 2018, 11:07 am

R-Dog wrote:You couldn't blame either of The Byrne twins for moving on for game time. They came out of school the same year as Leavy and both were as highly rated. Injury aside they struggle to make the Leinster H Cup bench where Leavy would be in the mix for a Lions tour if there was one this year.


Wouldnt blame either for leaving but neither are as talented as Leavy, which is why they haven't broken into the HCup side.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby Ruckedtobits » December 4th, 2018, 9:50 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:
R-Dog wrote:You couldn't blame either of The Byrne twins for moving on for game time. They came out of school the same year as Leavy and both were as highly rated. Injury aside they struggle to make the Leinster H Cup bench where Leavy would be in the mix for a Lions tour if there was one this year.


Wouldnt blame either for leaving but neither are as talented as Leavy, which is why they haven't broken into the HCup side.



Both are front-row players, who traditionally and physiogically, reach their playing pinnacle at a later age than back-row forwards e.g. some suggest at c. 27-32 y-o-a compared to c. 23-28 yoa. Previous comparisons of 6N players suggests that these ages are pretty accurate. Second-rows have the latest, and longest, cycle of playing maturity at international level and c. 29-35 is not a bad estimate.

However, and it is a big caveat, recent S&C trends to make front-five forwards more dynamic and better ball carriers, may have increased the injury rate to a point which will limit their longevity. The stats are beginning to build, but the case is not yet conclusive.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby leinsterforever » December 4th, 2018, 11:21 pm

Could Milne and/or Coyne be ready to step up during the World Cup if one of Dooley and Byrne left (or just got injured)? Or are they too early on in their development?

I suppose Bent could cover across if Abdaladze and Aungier were ready to start and bench respectively
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