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List of current Leinster professional players:

Cian Healy(Leinster/Belvedere)
Jack McGrath(Leinster/St. Marys)
Denis Buckley(Connacht/Blackrock)
Jack O'Connell(Bristol)
Des Merrey(Hartpury College)
Ed Byrne(Leinster)
Peter Dooley(Leinster)
Denis Coulson(Connacht)
Eric O'Sullivan(Ulster)
Vakh Albazaze(Leinster)
--
Jamie Hagan(Béziers)
Martin Moore(Wasps)
Tahdg Furlong(Leinster)
Jeremy Loughman(Leinster/Blackrock)
Oisin Heffernan(Leinster)
JP Phelan(Munster)
Oliver Jager(Crusaders/Blackrock)
Jack Aungier(Leinster)
--
Jason Harris Wright(Bristol/Blackrock)
James Tracy(Leinster)
Dave Heffernan(Connacht/Blackrock)
Shane Delahunt(Connacht)
Sean McNulty(Leinster)
Tadhg McElroy(Saracens)
Ronan Kelleher(Leinster)
--
Devin Toner(Leinster)
Mark Flanagan(Saracens)
Mick Kearney(Leinster)
Alan O'Connor(Ulster)
Tahdg Beirne(Scarlets)
Gavin Thornbury(Connacht/Blackrock)
Jerry Sexton(Jersey)
Ross Molony(Leinster)
James Ryan(Leinster)
Oisin Dowling(Leinster)
Jack Regan(Ulster)
--
Jamie Heaslip(Leinster)
Sean O'Brien(Leinster)
Robin Copeland(Munster)
Dominic Ryan(Leicester)
Rhys Ruddock(Leinster)
Jordi Murphy(Leinster/Blackrock)
Danny Kenny(London Scottish/Wicklow)
Conor Gilsenan(London Irish)
Jordan Coghlan(Nottingham)
Jack Conan(Leinster)
Josh Van Der Flier(Leinster)
Eoghan Masterson(Connacht)
James Connolly(Connacht)
Dan Leavy(Leinster)
Peadar Timmins(Leinster)
Sean O'Brien(Connacht)
Josh Murphy(Leinster)
Conor Oliver(Munster/Blackrock)
Nick Timoney(Ulster/Blackrock)
Harrison Brewer(Counties Manawatu)
Max Deegan(Leinster)
Greg Jones(Ulster)
Paul Boyle(Connacht)
Caelan Doris(Leinster/Blackrock)
Sean Masterson(Connacht)
Patrick Ryan(Northampton)
--
John Cooney(Ulster)
James Hart(Munster)
Luke McGrath(Leinster)
Dave Shanahan(Ulster)
Conor McKeon(Connacht)
Nick McCarthy(Leinster)
Charlie Rock(Leinster/Blackrock)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Leinster)
--
Jonathan Sexton(Leinster)
Ian Keatley(Munster)
Ian Madigan(Bristol/Blackrock)
Ian McKinley(Treviso)
AJ McGinty(Sale/Blackrock)
Cathal Marsh(Leinster)
Steve Crosbie(Connacht)
Ross Byrne(Leinster)
Joey Carbery(Leinster/Blackrock)
Ciaran Frawley(Leinster)
Alan Tynan(Munster)
--
Rob Kearney(Leinster)
Fergus McFadden(Leinster)
Dave Kearney(Leinster)
Eamonn Sheridan(Carcassonne)
Matt Healy(Connacht)
Craig Ronaldson(Connacht)
Noel Reid(Leinster)
Andrew Conway(Munster/Blackrock)
Brendan Macken(Wasps/Blackrock)
Niyi Adeolokun(Connacht)
Peter Lydon(Ealing)
Cian Kelleher(Connacht)
Rory O'Loughlin(Leinster)
Peter Robb(Connacht/Blackrock)
Tom Farrell(Connacht)
Adam Byrne(Leinster)
Garry Ringrose(Leinster/Blackrock)
Cormac Brennan(Connacht)
Conor O'Brien(Leinster)
Jimmy O'Brien(Leinster)
Matthew Byrne(Connacht)
Adam Leavy(Connacht)
Hugo Keenan(Leinster/Blackrock)
Terry Kennedy(Leinster)
Jack Power(Munster/Blackrock)
Gavin Mullin(Leinster/Blackrock)
Jack Kelly(Leinster)
Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
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leinsterforever wrote:.
That's a poor way to do it though, isn't it? Heaslip, Murphy, Cooney and Luke McGrath are all clearly Leinster players. Same with O'Gara and Munster[/quote]

No, its not a poor way of doing it. It is a way of doing it that has no grey areas though.
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mildlyinterested wrote:List of current Leinster professional players:

Cian Healy(Leinster/Belvedere)
Jack McGrath(Leinster/St. Marys)
Denis Buckley(Connacht/Blackrock)
Jack O'Connell(Bristol)
Des Merrey(Hartpury College)
Ed Byrne(Leinster)
Peter Dooley(Leinster)
Denis Coulson(Connacht)
Eric O'Sullivan(Ulster)
Vakh Albazaze(Leinster)
--
Jamie Hagan(Béziers)
Martin Moore(Wasps)
Tahdg Furlong(Leinster)
Jeremy Loughman(Leinster/Blackrock)
Oisin Heffernan(Leinster)
JP Phelan(Munster)
Oliver Jager(Crusaders/Blackrock)
Jack Aungier(Leinster)
--
Jason Harris Wright(Bristol/Blackrock)
James Tracy(Leinster)
Dave Heffernan(Connacht/Blackrock)
Shane Delahunt(Connacht)
Sean McNulty(Leinster)
Tadhg McElroy(Saracens)
Ronan Kelleher(Leinster)
--
Devin Toner(Leinster)
Mark Flanagan(Saracens)
Mick Kearney(Leinster)
Alan O'Connor(Ulster)
Tahdg Beirne(Scarlets)
Gavin Thornbury(Connacht/Blackrock)
Jerry Sexton(Jersey)
Ross Molony(Leinster)
James Ryan(Leinster)
Oisin Dowling(Leinster)
Jack Regan(Ulster)
--
Jamie Heaslip(Leinster)
Sean O'Brien(Leinster)
Robin Copeland(Munster)
Dominic Ryan(Leicester)
Rhys Ruddock(Leinster)
Jordi Murphy(Leinster/Blackrock)
Danny Kenny(London Scottish/Wicklow)
Conor Gilsenan(London Irish)
Jordan Coghlan(Nottingham)
Jack Conan(Leinster)
Josh Van Der Flier(Leinster)
Eoghan Masterson(Connacht)
James Connolly(Connacht)
Dan Leavy(Leinster)
Peadar Timmins(Leinster)
Sean O'Brien(Connacht)
Josh Murphy(Leinster)
Conor Oliver(Munster/Blackrock)
Nick Timoney(Ulster/Blackrock)
Harrison Brewer(Counties Manawatu)
Max Deegan(Leinster)
Greg Jones(Ulster)
Paul Boyle(Connacht)
Caelan Doris(Leinster/Blackrock)
Sean Masterson(Connacht)
Patrick Ryan(Northampton)
--
John Cooney(Ulster)
James Hart(Munster)
Luke McGrath(Leinster)
Dave Shanahan(Ulster)
Conor McKeon(Connacht)
Nick McCarthy(Leinster)
Charlie Rock(Leinster/Blackrock)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Leinster)
--
Jonathan Sexton(Leinster)
Ian Keatley(Munster)
Ian Madigan(Bristol/Blackrock)
Ian McKinley(Treviso)
AJ McGinty(Sale/Blackrock)
Cathal Marsh(Leinster)
Steve Crosbie(Connacht)
Ross Byrne(Leinster)
Joey Carbery(Leinster/Blackrock)
Ciaran Frawley(Leinster)
Alan Tynan(Munster)
--
Rob Kearney(Leinster)
Fergus McFadden(Leinster)
Dave Kearney(Leinster)
Eamonn Sheridan(Carcassonne)
Matt Healy(Connacht)
Craig Ronaldson(Connacht)
Noel Reid(Leinster)
Andrew Conway(Munster/Blackrock)
Brendan Macken(Wasps/Blackrock)
Niyi Adeolokun(Connacht)
Peter Lydon(Ealing)
Cian Kelleher(Connacht)
Rory O'Loughlin(Leinster)
Peter Robb(Connacht/Blackrock)
Tom Farrell(Connacht)
Adam Byrne(Leinster)
Garry Ringrose(Leinster/Blackrock)
Cormac Brennan(Connacht)
Conor O'Brien(Leinster)
Jimmy O'Brien(Leinster)
Matthew Byrne(Connacht)
Adam Leavy(Connacht)
Hugo Keenan(Leinster/Blackrock)
Terry Kennedy(Leinster)
Jack Power(Munster/Blackrock)
Gavin Mullin(Leinster/Blackrock)
Jack Kelly(Leinster)
Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
You must have been at that list all morning. Someone could have moved clubs in that time.
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Well one did - sort of! Mark Flanagan is currently at Munster on loan
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26 back rows listed above as current players and most playing at good level.
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blockhead wrote:
No, its not a poor way of doing it. It is a way of doing it that has no grey areas though.
Like School. Joey Carburry could be a grey area? No. Played his whole 2nd level in Leinster.

Great bit of documentation as ever Mildly.
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Great list.
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mildlyinterested wrote:List of current Leinster professional players:

Cian Healy(Leinster/Belvedere)
Jack McGrath(Leinster/St. Marys)
Denis Buckley(Connacht/Blackrock)
Jack O'Connell(Bristol)
Des Merrey(Hartpury College)
Ed Byrne(Leinster)
Peter Dooley(Leinster)
Denis Coulson(Connacht)
Eric O'Sullivan(Ulster)
Vakh Albazaze(Leinster)
--
Jamie Hagan(Béziers)
Martin Moore(Wasps)
Tahdg Furlong(Leinster)
Jeremy Loughman(Leinster/Blackrock)
Oisin Heffernan(Leinster)
JP Phelan(Munster)
Oliver Jager(Crusaders/Blackrock)
Jack Aungier(Leinster)
--
Jason Harris Wright(Bristol/Blackrock)
James Tracy(Leinster)
Dave Heffernan(Connacht/Blackrock)
Shane Delahunt(Connacht)
Sean McNulty(Leinster)
Tadhg McElroy(Saracens)
Ronan Kelleher(Leinster)
--
Devin Toner(Leinster)
Mark Flanagan(Saracens)
Mick Kearney(Leinster)
Alan O'Connor(Ulster)
Tahdg Beirne(Scarlets)
Gavin Thornbury(Connacht/Blackrock)
Jerry Sexton(Jersey)
Ross Molony(Leinster)
James Ryan(Leinster)
Oisin Dowling(Leinster)
Jack Regan(Ulster)
--
Jamie Heaslip(Leinster)
Sean O'Brien(Leinster)
Robin Copeland(Munster)
Dominic Ryan(Leicester)
Rhys Ruddock(Leinster)
Jordi Murphy(Leinster/Blackrock)
Danny Kenny(London Scottish/Wicklow)
Conor Gilsenan(London Irish)
Jordan Coghlan(Nottingham)
Jack Conan(Leinster)
Josh Van Der Flier(Leinster)
Eoghan Masterson(Connacht)
James Connolly(Connacht)
Dan Leavy(Leinster)
Peadar Timmins(Leinster)
Sean O'Brien(Connacht)
Josh Murphy(Leinster)
Conor Oliver(Munster/Blackrock)
Nick Timoney(Ulster/Blackrock)
Harrison Brewer(Counties Manawatu)
Max Deegan(Leinster)
Greg Jones(Ulster)
Paul Boyle(Connacht)
Caelan Doris(Leinster/Blackrock)
Sean Masterson(Connacht)
Patrick Ryan(Northampton)
--
John Cooney(Ulster)
James Hart(Munster)
Luke McGrath(Leinster)
Dave Shanahan(Ulster)
Conor McKeon(Connacht)
Nick McCarthy(Leinster)
Charlie Rock(Leinster/Blackrock)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Leinster)
--
Jonathan Sexton(Leinster)
Ian Keatley(Munster)
Ian Madigan(Bristol/Blackrock)
Ian McKinley(Treviso)
AJ McGinty(Sale/Blackrock)
Cathal Marsh(Leinster)
Steve Crosbie(Connacht)
Ross Byrne(Leinster)
Joey Carbery(Leinster/Blackrock)
Ciaran Frawley(Leinster)
Alan Tynan(Munster)
--
Rob Kearney(Leinster)
Fergus McFadden(Leinster)
Dave Kearney(Leinster)
Eamonn Sheridan(Carcassonne)
Matt Healy(Connacht)
Craig Ronaldson(Connacht)
Noel Reid(Leinster)
Andrew Conway(Munster/Blackrock)
Brendan Macken(Wasps/Blackrock)
Niyi Adeolokun(Connacht)
Peter Lydon(Ealing)
Cian Kelleher(Connacht)
Rory O'Loughlin(Leinster)
Peter Robb(Connacht/Blackrock)
Tom Farrell(Connacht)
Adam Byrne(Leinster)
Garry Ringrose(Leinster/Blackrock)
Cormac Brennan(Connacht)
Conor O'Brien(Leinster)
Jimmy O'Brien(Leinster)
Matthew Byrne(Connacht)
Adam Leavy(Connacht)
Hugo Keenan(Leinster/Blackrock)
Terry Kennedy(Leinster)
Jack Power(Munster/Blackrock)
Gavin Mullin(Leinster/Blackrock)
Jack Kelly(Leinster)
Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
Fantastic research and a treasure trove on information. By my quick count there's about 108 players there. Wonder what their annual remuneration totals?

Quick (big number) guesstimate comes in something like €4-6m p.a. Will try to do something more accurate over next couple of days but maybe @Xanthippe has it calculated already.
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List of current Leinster professional players:

Cian Healy(Leinster/Belvedere)
Jack McGrath(Leinster/St. Marys)
Denis Buckley(Connacht/Blackrock)
Jack O'Connell(Bristol/Clongowes)
Des Merrey(Hartpury College/Kings Hospital)
Ed Byrne(Leinster/Clongowes)
Peter Dooley(Leinster/Birr RFC)
Denis Coulson(Connacht/St. Michaels)
Eric O'Sullivan(Ulster/Templeogue)
Vakh Albazaze(Leinster/Coolmine RFC)
--
Jamie Hagan(Béziers/Balbriggan RFC)
Martin Moore(Wasps/Castleknock)
Tahdg Furlong(Leinster/New Ross RFC)
Jeremy Loughman(Leinster/Blackrock)
Oisin Heffernan(Leinster/Roscrea)
JP Phelan(Munster/Newbridge)
Oliver Jager(Crusaders/Blackrock)
Andrew Porter(Leinster/St. Andrews)
Jack Aungier(Leinster/Suttonians RFC)
--
Jason Harris Wright(Bristol/Blackrock)
James Tracy(Leinster/Newbridge)
Dave Heffernan(Connacht/Blackrock)
Bryan Byrne(Leinster/Clongowes)
Shane Delahunt(Connacht/Kilkenny)
Sean McNulty(Leinster/Rockwell)
Tadhg McElroy(Saracens/Dundalk RFC)
Ronan Kelleher(Leinster/St. Michaels)
--
Devin Toner(Leinster/Castleknock)
Mark Flanagan(Munster/Mullingar RFC)
Mick Kearney(Leinster/Clontarf RFC)
Alan O'Connor(Ulster/Skerries RFC)
Tahdg Beirne(Scarlets/Clongowes)
Gavin Thornbury(Connacht/Blackrock)
Jerry Sexton(Jersey/St. Marys)
Ross Molony(Leinster/St. Michaels)
James Ryan(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Oisin Dowling(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Jack Regan(Ulster/Birr RFC)
Fineen Wycherley(Munster/Roscrea)
--
Jamie Heaslip(Leinster/Newbridge)
Sean O'Brien(Leinster/Tullow RFC)
Robin Copeland(Munster/Kilkenny)
Dominic Ryan(Leicester/Gonzaga)
Rhys Ruddock(Leinster/Exile)
Jordi Murphy(Leinster/Blackrock)
Danny Kenny(London Scottish/Greystones RFC)
Conor Gilsenan(London Irish/Clongowes)
Jordan Coghlan(Nottingham/Clongowes)
Jack Conan(Leinster/St. Gerards)
Josh Van Der Flier(Leinster/Wesley)
Eoghan Masterson(Connacht/Potlaoise RFC)
James Connolly(Connacht/Newbridge)
Dan Leavy(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Peadar Timmins(Leinster/Clongowes)
Sean O'Brien(Connacht/Roscrea)
Josh Murphy(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Conor Oliver(Munster/Blackrock)
Nick Timoney(Ulster/Blackrock)
Harrison Brewer(Counties Manawatu/Terenure)
Max Deegan(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Will Connors(Leinster/Clongowes)
Greg Jones(Ulster/St. Andrews)
Paul Boyle(Connacht/Gorey RFC)
Caelan Doris(Leinster/Blackrock)
Sean Masterson(Connacht/Portlaoise RFC)
Patrick Ryan(Northampton/Newbridge)
--
John Cooney(Ulster/Gonzaga)
James Hart(Munster/Belvedere)
Luke McGrath(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Dave Shanahan(Ulster/Belvedere)
Conor McKeon(Connacht/Gonzaga)
Nick McCarthy(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Charlie Rock(Leinster/Blackrock)
Hugh O'Sullivan(Leinster/Belvedere)
--
Jonathan Sexton(Leinster/St. Marys)
Ian Keatley(Munster/Belvedere)
Ian Madigan(Bristol/Blackrock)
Ian McKinley(Treviso/St. Columbas)
AJ McGinty(Sale/Blackrock)
Cathal Marsh(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Steve Crosbie(Connacht/St. Gerards)
Ross Byrne(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Joey Carbery(Leinster/Blackrock)
Ciaran Frawley(Leinster/Skerries RFC)
Alan Tynan(Munster/Roscrea)
--
Rob Kearney(Leinster/Clongowes)
Fergus McFadden(Leinster/Clongowes)
Dave Kearney(Leinster/Clongowes)
Eamonn Sheridan(Carcassonne/Navan RFC)
Matt Healy(Connacht/Gonzaga)
Craig Ronaldson(Connacht/Kilkenny)
Noel Reid(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Andrew Conway(Munster/Blackrock)
Brendan Macken(Wasps/Blackrock)
Niyi Adeolokun(Connacht/De La Salle)
Barry Daly(Leinster/Gonzaga)
Tiernan O'Halloran(Connacht/Roscrea)
Peter Lydon(Ealing/Kilkenny)
Tom Daly(Leinster/Carlow RFC)
Tom Farrell(Connacht/Castleknock)
Ian Fitzpatrick(Leinster/Kings Hospital)
Cian Kelleher(Connacht/St. Michaels)
Rory O'Loughlin(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Peter Robb(Connacht/Blackrock)
Adam Byrne(Leinster/Naas RFC)
Garry Ringrose(Leinster/Blackrock)
Cormac Brennan(Connacht/Roscrea)
Conor O'Brien(Leinster/Mullingar RFC)
Jimmy O'Brien(Leinster/Newbridge)
Matthew Byrne(Connacht/Terenure)
Adam Leavy(Connacht/St. Michaels)
Hugo Keenan(Leinster/Blackrock)
Terry Kennedy(Leinster/St. Marys)
Jack Power(Munster/Blackrock)
Jordan Larmour(Leinster/St. Andrews)
Jack Kelly(Leinster/St. Michaels)
Gavin Mullin(Leinster/Blackrock)
Tommy O'Brien(Leinster/Blackrock)
Was missing 8 players so I added them to list.
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Of all those players the only ones outside of Ireland with more than 1 cap are Marty Moore and Ian Madigan.
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Ruckedtobits wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:List of current Leinster professional players:

Cian Healy(Leinster/Belvedere)
...
...
Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
Fantastic research and a treasure trove on information. By my quick count there's about 108 players there. Wonder what their annual remuneration totals?

Quick (big number) guesstimate comes in something like €4-6m p.a. Will try to do something more accurate over next couple of days but maybe @Xanthippe has it calculated already.
Fantastic list Mildly - what a brilliant resource to have :clap:

RTB - sorry I don't keep any stats on salaries as I'm one of those boring people who think a player's wages are his own business
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Xanthippe wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:List of current Leinster professional players:

Cian Healy(Leinster/Belvedere)
...
...
Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
Fantastic research and a treasure trove on information. By my quick count there's about 108 players there. Wonder what their annual remuneration totals?

Quick (big number) guesstimate comes in something like €4-6m p.a. Will try to do something more accurate over next couple of days but maybe @Xanthippe has it calculated already.

Touche.

But I love to calculate return on investment!
Fantastic list Mildly - what a brilliant resource to have :clap:

RTB - sorry I don't keep any stats on salaries as I'm one of those boring people who think a player's wages are his own business
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Nucifora
If the IRFU had their way, more players would be transferred between the four provinces for the betterment of the international side and you can understand why but at the same time, it is vital not to dilute the rivalries.

Leinster, for example, currently have a backlog of talented back-rows but Nucifora insisted that no player would be forced to move club:
"At the end of the day, the players make the decisions. It's not up to us really. It's not up to the provinces. The players have to make those choices.

"So if a player is not getting the amount of game time that he wants, then he has got a choice to make.

"The national coaches want to see guys playing. The boys know that and at the end of the day, we are doing everything we can within the system to create that competition which ultimately helps the player make the choice. That's the way it needs to be.
"Maybe that logjam (Leinster back-row) will lead to some movement."
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mildlyinterested wrote:Nucifora
If the IRFU had their way, more players would be transferred between the four provinces for the betterment of the international side and you can understand why but at the same time, it is vital not to dilute the rivalries.

Leinster, for example, currently have a backlog of talented back-rows but Nucifora insisted that no player would be forced to move club:
"At the end of the day, the players make the decisions. It's not up to us really. It's not up to the provinces. The players have to make those choices.

"So if a player is not getting the amount of game time that he wants, then he has got a choice to make.

"The national coaches want to see guys playing. The boys know that and at the end of the day, we are doing everything we can within the system to create that competition which ultimately helps the player make the choice. That's the way it needs to be.
"Maybe that logjam (Leinster back-row) will lead to some movement."
It's pretty hard to disagree with that. Our 7th choice backrowerer started in the Ireland team that beat the all blacks a year ago.
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mildlyinterested wrote:Nucifora
If the IRFU had their way, more players would be transferred between the four provinces for the betterment of the international side and you can understand why but at the same time, it is vital not to dilute the rivalries.

Leinster, for example, currently have a backlog of talented back-rows but Nucifora insisted that no player would be forced to move club:
"At the end of the day, the players make the decisions. It's not up to us really. It's not up to the provinces. The players have to make those choices.

"So if a player is not getting the amount of game time that he wants, then he has got a choice to make.

"The national coaches want to see guys playing. The boys know that and at the end of the day, we are doing everything we can within the system to create that competition which ultimately helps the player make the choice. That's the way it needs to be.
"Maybe that logjam (Leinster back-row) will lead to some movement."
How pertinent these comments are to current Tadgh Beirne position.
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Heaslip might need a second operation to fix his back, but the consultants seem to have identified why he was taking so long to heal (according to the Swerve)

Update: hes had the second op and theyre confident hes on the right road now. Or as the Indo put hes having last chance risky op and he might not play again we are all doooomed
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Apparently Heaslip had his second surgery last Wednesday. Girv confirmed the surgery anyway, if not the date.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 83147.html
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What is the real story about Dave McHugh - Referee Development Manager taking a legal action against the IRFU for unfair dismissal and also seeking injunction against any comment by IRFU?

The guy has almost 20 years service with IRFU and must have been close enough to retirement to give him an early retirement package.

This looks like another of the employment disputes that they seem to get into with professionall staff.
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If we knew we couldn’t say
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Xanthippe wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:List of current Leinster professional players:

Cian Healy(Leinster/Belvedere)
...
...
Tommy O'Brien(Leinster)
Fantastic research and a treasure trove on information. By my quick count there's about 108 players there. Wonder what their annual remuneration totals?

Quick (big number) guesstimate comes in something like €4-6m p.a. Will try to do something more accurate over next couple of days but maybe @Xanthippe has it calculated already.
Fantastic list Mildly - what a brilliant resource to have :clap:

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