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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby curates_egg » March 1st, 2017, 9:59 pm

I have no problem with guys coming here, making their lives here and representing Ireland. I constantly defend the naturalisation law in fact.
Bleyendaal is probably the first case that will test my approach in that regard though. We have two out halves coming through who seem to have bags of talent and I would just prefer if they were the focus for the national side - rather than a guy who has come here because it was a good career move. Even if that is also at odds with my other tendency to not want to lose all our best Leinster players to Ireland.
Byrne and Carbery both seem to be pretty exciting prospects. Jackson, who could still develop into a really first class international outhalf (not there yet) is still only 25 and younger than Blyendaal.
If Johnny's body is willing, he will certainly want to play another world cup.
Blyendaal looks like a very talented guy and, at 26, he clearly is a settled player who is using his experience...but it would seem a shame if he leapfrogs these guys.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby Oldschoolsocks » March 2nd, 2017, 12:49 am

I understand the sentiment CE, but that really is picking and choosing.

For me you either accept all of the benefits of the rule or none of them
the irony being that ad-hominen and appeal to majority are the most often used defences of the apologist.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby Kinger83 » March 2nd, 2017, 10:11 am

Apparently Scott Fardy is joining Leinster after the Super Rugby season.

http://www.the42.ie/scott-fardy-wallabi ... 4-Mar2017/
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby Mickado » March 2nd, 2017, 10:55 am

Fardy wrote:“I’m also excited about the chance to join Leinster next season. But I’ve got a lot that I want to achieve at the Brumbies and it should be a great year with the boys.”


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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby Fireworks » March 2nd, 2017, 11:18 am

Kinger83 wrote:Apparently Scott Fardy is joining Leinster after the Super Rugby season.

http://www.the42.ie/scott-fardy-wallabi ... 4-Mar2017/


Looks like a good move. I like when we have at least one lock who can play backrow as they are obviously better movers.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby Fireworks » March 2nd, 2017, 11:22 am

MunsterSugar wrote:
fourthirtythree wrote:Well before the season I would have thought a NIQ outhalf was what we needed but weren't allowed. David Nucifora's tough "love" has born fruit in that Byrne has developed brilliantly. Carberry still would have been playing but Byrne wouldn't have got games. We still have a problem in that we'll be missing two to Ireland probably next year and that's before injury.

I guess that Isa notionally covering outhalf when we only had one in the squad was a part of him getting retained.

Not necessarily missing 2. 1 will be 3rd choice at best only and competing with Blenyendaal for 3rd choice spot.


Crystal ball gazing time. Based on their current performance and development trajectory I could easily see Leinster supplying 1st and 2nd choice 10's by next years 6n. Not saying it will happen but it is not a fanciful possibility.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby All Blacks nil » March 2nd, 2017, 11:24 am

Kinger83 wrote:Apparently Scott Fardy is joining Leinster after the Super Rugby season.

http://www.the42.ie/scott-fardy-wallabi ... 4-Mar2017/


A good signing and exactly what is required. Hope everything works out for him.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby curates_egg » March 2nd, 2017, 12:23 pm

Oldschoolsocks wrote:I understand the sentiment CE, but that really is picking and choosing.

For me you either accept all of the benefits of the rule or none of them


It is totally hypocritical sentimental nonsense on my part.
I am totally in favour of people who choose come to live in Ireland to make their lives also having all the rights that goes with that; I also hate the IRFU cannibalising Leinster: so it is gross hypocrisy on all fronts
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby Oldschoolsocks » March 2nd, 2017, 2:02 pm

curates_egg wrote:
Oldschoolsocks wrote:I understand the sentiment CE, but that really is picking and choosing.

For me you either accept all of the benefits of the rule or none of them


It is totally hypocritical sentimental nonsense on my part.
I am totally in favour of people who choose come to live in Ireland to make their lives also having all the rights that goes with that; I also hate the IRFU cannibalising Leinster: so it is gross hypocrisy on all fronts


Bit harsh on yourself there CE, or I've been totally whooshed (unconsciously scratches head)
the irony being that ad-hominen and appeal to majority are the most often used defences of the apologist.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby MunsterSugar » March 2nd, 2017, 2:32 pm

@Fireworks being honest I can't see Carbery out doing Jackson unless Jonny has another major injury crisis. Jackso will be playing in an Ulster team I'm predicting on the up when Gibbes makes his mark, Blenyendaal will be Munster starter. Both these guys will have exposure in big games at 10 while Carbery will be slightly limited considering he has Sexton in front so it is a tougher battle. Considering there isn't huge gap between any
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby curates_egg » March 2nd, 2017, 2:41 pm

Oldschoolsocks wrote:
curates_egg wrote:
Oldschoolsocks wrote:I understand the sentiment CE, but that really is picking and choosing.

For me you either accept all of the benefits of the rule or none of them


It is totally hypocritical sentimental nonsense on my part.
I am totally in favour of people who choose come to live in Ireland to make their lives also having all the rights that goes with that; I also hate the IRFU cannibalising Leinster: so it is gross hypocrisy on all fronts


Bit harsh on yourself there CE, or I've been totally whooshed (unconsciously scratches head)


Only slightly tongue in cheek.
- I think Kimmage has done a great job over the years but I think his crusade against naturalisation in rugby is totally wrong. The way he (and some ex players) have been discussing the issue is a bit too breitbart for my taste. If you make another country your home, why should you not be allowed to represent that country?
- I also hate the thought of us losing multiple players from key positions to the Ireland squad.
So, on both fronts, I should be happy about Blyendaal.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby nc6000 » March 2nd, 2017, 10:15 pm

ror wrote:There are serious talks going on with Top Notch second row. Obviously I cant say who,but hopefully we can get this guy across the line...


Nice one. 10372 posts and over four years later the rumour from the first post in this thread happens. :lol:
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby simonokeeffe » March 2nd, 2017, 10:30 pm

nc6000 wrote:
ror wrote:There are serious talks going on with Top Notch second row. Obviously I cant say who,but hopefully we can get this guy across the line...


Nice one. 10372 posts and over four years later the rumour from the first post in this thread happens. :lol:


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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby neiliog93 » March 2nd, 2017, 11:12 pm

He copped a bit of abuse on here and made the (somewhat justified) decision to stop posting as a result. We kind of bit the hand that fed us. I'd personally love to be getting the occasional inside line from him.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby Cianostays » March 3rd, 2017, 12:37 am

Did he not, rather spectacularly, fly off the handle at Leo's appointment as head coach?
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » March 3rd, 2017, 1:58 am

Think he called it a farce a few times and people didnt take kindly to it so he left.

Others disagree but I thought he did have some good info and was connected in some way. I always suspected he knew BOD.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby outcast eddie » March 3rd, 2017, 7:09 am

It looks like he's been proved wrong about Leo so maybe he's lurking sheepishly somewhere.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby nc6000 » March 3rd, 2017, 9:09 am

nc6000 wrote:
ror wrote:There are serious talks going on with Top Notch second row. Obviously I cant say who,but hopefully we can get this guy across the line...


Nice one. 10372 posts and over four years later the rumour from the first post in this thread happens. :lol:

I posted this because when I open a thread using the Tapatalk app it shows me the first post rather than the most recent so I keep seeing the original second row rumour.

It wasn't anything to do with the person who posted it or any reasons why they don't post anymore.

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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby wixfjord » March 3rd, 2017, 9:11 am

David Kelly linking us with James Lowe this morning.
Sounds very much like he's making it up though, no real concreteness about anything in the article:
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/g ... 97842.html

Would be a super signing, but I just can't see us being allowed to sign a young outside back to replace Zane, nor do I think we should be tbh.
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Re: Rumour Mill

Postby goreyguy » March 3rd, 2017, 9:41 am

yeah looks like BS to me too.
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