Rumour Mill

[ChrisUppy]

Ryan out of contract and Munster can't afford him, they've got the begging bowl out again. He wants to stay in Ireland, we can afford him. He'd be a good fit for us:

"Ryan is currently on a central IRFU contract, which expires in June 2017, and it is understood that the latest offer being presented to him is a Munster provincial contract. However, it’s believed that there has been some delay in getting the deal over the line, with the IRFU having been hesitant to provide a top-up to that deal to ensure that the player is not taking a large wage cut. There have been expressions of interest in Ryan from France – as has been the case with several other Irish players in the recent past – although it’s understood the player is keen to remain in Ireland."

PS I thought they were all IRFU contracts these days?

But we wouldn't be allowed to offer him more money than Munster, no? Not exactly sure how that rule works to be honest though

[fourthirtythree]

Getting lectured by Munster fans about NIQs in Leinster is surreal.

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Your opinion of what constitutes a lecture is slightly off.

http://www.vox.com/videos/2017/2/13/145 ... way-tricks

[simonokeeffe]

Ryan out of contract and Munster can't afford him, they've got the begging bowl out again. He wants to stay in Ireland, we can afford him. He'd be a good fit for us:

"Ryan is currently on a central IRFU contract, which expires in June 2017, and it is understood that the latest offer being presented to him is a Munster provincial contract. However, it’s believed that there has been some delay in getting the deal over the line, with the IRFU having been hesitant to provide a top-up to that deal to ensure that the player is not taking a large wage cut. There have been expressions of interest in Ryan from France – as has been the case with several other Irish players in the recent past – although it’s understood the player is keen to remain in Ireland."

PS I thought they were all IRFU contracts these days?

But we wouldn't be allowed to offer him more money than Munster, no? Not exactly sure how that rule works to be honest though

correct
we could only offer him more money if Munster withdrew their offer

Take it as a given he wants to play more for Ireland and go to the world cup then staying in ireland (well Munster to be realistic) is the only option
This is where Munster (or a sponsor) should arrange a a corporate sponsorship/top up

[CiaranIrl]

That's a novel new way for NIQs to block Ireland players. Munster have spent so much money on 9 NIQs that they can't afford to pay for Ryan.

[deco]

Ryan out of contract and Munster can't afford him, they've got the begging bowl out again. He wants to stay in Ireland, we can afford him. He'd be a good fit for us:

"Ryan is currently on a central IRFU contract, which expires in June 2017, and it is understood that the latest offer being presented to him is a Munster provincial contract. However, it’s believed that there has been some delay in getting the deal over the line, with the IRFU having been hesitant to provide a top-up to that deal to ensure that the player is not taking a large wage cut. There have been expressions of interest in Ryan from France – as has been the case with several other Irish players in the recent past – although it’s understood the player is keen to remain in Ireland."

PS I thought they were all IRFU contracts these days?

But we wouldn't be allowed to offer him more money than Munster, no? Not exactly sure how that rule works to be honest though

correct
we could only offer him more money if Munster withdrew their offer

Take it as a given he wants to play more for Ireland and go to the world cup then staying in ireland (well Munster to be realistic) is the only option
This is where Munster (or a sponsor) should arrange a a corporate sponsorship/top up

Ridiculous that Munster are low-balling him. Actually on the same money he'd be better off in Leinster, playing with the rest of the Irish pack.

[simonokeeffe]

Dont think theyre lowballing him, just by the nature of the beast provincial deals are noticeablt lower than centrals

[Cianostays]

They'll find the money from somewhere. He's far too valuable a player for them to lose.

[goreyguy]

Some talk online that leavy is leaving for another province.

[goreyguy]

Anyone know when Conans contract is next up for renewal?

this year

[Dexter]

Some talk online that leavy is leaving for another province.

Why would he do that? Seems strange.

[MunsterSugar]

Some talk online that leavy is leaving for another province.

Why would he do that? Seems strange.

Probably feels he can be higher rated and better exposure elsewhere

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[goreyguy]

Some talk online that leavy is leaving for another province.

Why would he do that? Seems strange.

more likely to be 1st choice 7?
more starts in big games?

Hopefully he sticks around Leinster, would be a big loss despite depth in the backrow.

[Ruckedtobits]

Some talk online that leavy is leaving for another province.

Would truly be amazed and would consider any move madness for as long as JS is Irish Head Coach.

[Armchair]

They'll find the money from somewhere. He's far too valuable a player for them to lose.

Munster not in control anymore they are effectively under full control of IRFU after being bailed out. Decision making is out of their control, they can make suggestions but nothing else

[goreyguy]

Some talk online that leavy is leaving for another province.

Would truly be amazed and would consider any move madness for as long as JS is Irish Head Coach.

Why would joe being Ireland coach be a factor in Leavy staying at Leinster instead of moving to another province??

[molloyjh]

The guidelines laid out by the irfu are that a province can not sign a player in a position that has previously been occupied by a Niq.

It's a guideline that has been ignored for other provinces in the past.

If Leinster have isa and an other winger, how much game time will all of these products get.

We've had no issue blooding young lads this season with 2 foreign guys in the back 3. Personally I'd be pretty happy holding on to Isa and Zane. I don't think we're even considering AAC, let alone trying to make it happen. If we can hold onto both of those on the understanding that Zane is a squad guy who won't block player development and get in a top class lock then I think that's all Leinster need. Isa and said top class lock would really be the only NIQ players in our first string XV. And JGP would be the only other one in our 23. Can't see the IRFU arguing with that tbh.

[MunsterSugar]

They'll find the money from somewhere. He's far too valuable a player for them to lose.

Munster not in control anymore they are effectively under full control of IRFU after being bailed out. Decision making is out of their control, they can make suggestions but nothing else

Aren't they out of that now? Was said after all sell out recently they're back on track which is possibly true bu fact you see them linked with few signings. Also they get alot of revenue now on matchdays. The recent Shannon RFC bar report showed they've made more in bar between Sept 16 to Jan 17 than they did Sept 14 to June 16

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[BlueBlue]

They'll find the money from somewhere. He's far too valuable a player for them to lose.

Munster not in control anymore they are effectively under full control of IRFU after being bailed out. Decision making is out of their control, they can make suggestions but nothing else

Aren't they out of that now? Was said after all sell out recently they're back on track which is possibly true bu fact you see them linked with few signings. Also they get alot of revenue now on matchdays. The recent Shannon RFC bar report showed they've made more in bar between Sept 16 to Jan 17 than they did Sept 14 to June 16

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Munster owe 9m to the Irfu for Thomond Park build, on top of that they got bailed out to the tune of 1.2m to 2m last year by the IRFU, that's the amount Munster Rugby fell short of last year. They are going better this year sure with attendances, but no they are not out of 9 + 1.2 / 2m. They wont be until some time in the 2030's

[Oldschoolsocks]

Your opinion of what constitutes a lecture is slightly off.

You're quite correct m#1, the phrase Ciaranirl was looking for was "sneered at"


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Jeepers, thank God the players have thicker skins or they'd never last 80!

Oh, don't mind me. Our mate m#1 is quare fond of the corrections.


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[Dexter]

Some talk online that leavy is leaving for another province.

Why would he do that? Seems strange.

Probably feels he can be higher rated and better exposure elsewhere

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I presume people are joking with this type of talk. The guy is 22, has 31 Leinster caps, an Ireland cap, 18 appearances in the 21 games so far this season and is one of the most highly rated young players in the squad, in one of the most competitive areas of the squad.