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Gopperth leaving

Postby WarPoodle » December 10th, 2014, 2:53 pm

I'm sure everyone knew this would happen with Johnny on the way back, but confirmed here by Richie Murphy.

My thoughts are he was really good when given a Plan A, but as soon as Plan A wasn't working, he found it difficult to improvise a Plan B.

http://www1.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/15186/9599867/jimmy-gopperth-in-talks-with-wasps-as-richie-murphy-claims-fly-half-will-leave-leinster
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby neiliog93 » December 10th, 2014, 3:05 pm

Good player, definitely a necessary signing for us after Johnny's departure, but overfavoured by the coach. That's not Gopperth's his fault. I hear he's going to earn a bomb at Wasps - fair play and good luck to him.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby cormac » December 10th, 2014, 3:11 pm

Look out Itchy, he's Irish
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby goreyguy » December 10th, 2014, 3:21 pm

Harshly treated, he is the symbol of MOC and everything wrong with the current setup so he gets unnecessary stick.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby OTT » December 10th, 2014, 3:21 pm

He tried to implement our limited game plan to the best of his abilities, sometimes it worked a treat like Ospreys away in the HCup last year bit of a scapegoat to fans when things have been going wrong and his form dipped but he was not picking the team each week. Best of luck to him at Wasps they seem to like to play some decent rugby and he might not feel constricted to putting up uncontestable bombs each week which is currently our M.O.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby The Anathemata » December 10th, 2014, 3:29 pm

He reminds me of Joel Stransky for some reason - maybe it's just the looks. Now if only he could kick drop goals and had the good fortune to play behind a dominant pack, he might look quite good.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby Leoslovechild » December 10th, 2014, 3:47 pm

goreyguy wrote:Harshly treated, he is the symbol of MOC and everything wrong with the current setup so he gets unnecessary stick.


Disagree with this.Darragh Fanning playing every game is the symbol of MOC and everything wrong with the current set up.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby WarPoodle » December 10th, 2014, 3:58 pm

Disagree with this.Darragh Fanning playing every game is the symbol of MOC and everything wrong with the current set up.


Ouch..
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby goreyguy » December 10th, 2014, 4:01 pm

Leoslovechild wrote:
goreyguy wrote:Harshly treated, he is the symbol of MOC and everything wrong with the current setup so he gets unnecessary stick.


Disagree with this.Darragh Fanning playing every game is the symbol of MOC and everything wrong with the current set up.


true to extent, I think if Fanning was starting over Fitz/McFadden/Kearney there would be more complaints.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby All Blacks nil » December 10th, 2014, 8:44 pm

Jimmy gone already

Is captaining AC Roma tonight v Manchester City
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby Logorrhea » December 10th, 2014, 9:03 pm

Thought he's been our best outhalf for the past two years.

Hes been treated like sh!t by far too many fans, who haven't been able to forgive him for not being Johnny Sexton.

Wasps will be a lot stronger for signing him and I wish him all the very best.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby olaf the fat » December 11th, 2014, 2:18 am

Lots of players underperforming in blue but still look great for Ireland. Maybe Gopps would be seen as great under a different game plan.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby Degz » December 11th, 2014, 7:50 am

Logorrhea wrote:Thought he's been our best outhalf for the past two years.

Hes been treated like sh!t by far too many fans, who haven't been able to forgive him for not being Johnny Sexton.

Wasps will be a lot stronger for signing him and I wish him all the very best.


He has been very poor this season, very poor.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby fourthirtythree » December 11th, 2014, 10:27 am

He was always going, I'm sorry he had to play under a different coach than the one who signed him. His experience may have been quite different had that not been the case.

Haven't noticed anyone treating him like shit. Nor do I think he's "been our best outhalf for two years". He has often been the better of two options, but not always. Nor has he seen consequences for poor performances. That said, neither has Boss which is a bigger strategic worry for Leinster.

We thought we had signed a steady Jimmy Dropperth. Turned out he was actually mercurial with a wicked break. I would have loved to see him playing that in a system designed to get the best out of him rather than one seemingly designed to suck the joy out of life.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby WarPoodle » December 11th, 2014, 10:55 am

I would have loved to see him playing that in a system designed to get the best out of him rather than one seemingly designed to suck the joy out of life.


Maybe a new thread should be started on how how Matt O'Connor is the Grinch in disguise..
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby All Blacks nil » December 11th, 2014, 11:17 am

Degz wrote:
He has been very poor this season, very poor.


If all of Leinster squad were judged by the same standards there would be an exodus.
Many squad players have got their chance and have proved themselves to be at best, squad players.
Move them on and release the potential of the Leinster Academy, many of whom have been outstanding in the B & I Cup
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby molloyjh » December 11th, 2014, 11:22 am

Degz wrote:
Logorrhea wrote:Thought he's been our best outhalf for the past two years.

Hes been treated like sh!t by far too many fans, who haven't been able to forgive him for not being Johnny Sexton.

Wasps will be a lot stronger for signing him and I wish him all the very best.


He has been very poor this season, very poor.


Who in our back line has looked much better this season though? He hasn't been as good as last season but he's still put in some decent performances. It seems thats about all we're getting from our backs these days. Is that his and/or the scrummies fault or does it go deeper than that?
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby Peg Leg » December 11th, 2014, 1:02 pm

Thanks for the good times Jimmy :happy clapper:
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby Donny B. » December 11th, 2014, 2:00 pm

Logorrhea wrote:Thought he's been our best outhalf for the past two years.



Well he's pretty much been our only out-half this season, so he's only competing with himself for that award.

His form last season justified him starting over Madigan, but this season he's been dreadfully error-prone and tactically poor and he has deserved to be dropped.

That said, it's not his fault that he hasn't been.

Seems a good guy who always tries his best, and good luck to him in Wasps or where ever he ends up.
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Re: Gopperth leaving

Postby Logorrhea » December 11th, 2014, 2:22 pm

Donny B. wrote:His form last season justified him starting over Madigan, but this season he's been dreadfully error-prone and tactically poor and he has deserved to be dropped.

I wouldn't blame Gopperth for the tactics. We look the same with Madigan at 10 and every time Madigan gets a go at 10, he doesn't hammer home the advantage.

Again, people seem to blame Gopperth for us playing shite, and while I'm not saying hes not a part of it, I think the real blame lies elsewhere.
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