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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby simonokeeffe » May 26th, 2016, 8:59 am

Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Think Hudson will be released, missed whole season with injury


He didn't. He couldn't make the Bristol side so was farmed out to Moseley on loan. His contract is up now and won't be renewed


pants, know he played most of their B & I games last games so was working off that

Bristol had a fairly strong/experienced back 3 corps but feel bad for the guy as I dont think he got a fair crack of the whip here, not to dredge up old arguments

At least he has an ex Irish international wing (Maggs) as coach at Mosely
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby the spoofer » May 26th, 2016, 9:49 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:Well done to Jack O'Connell who goes up to Premiership with Bristol, who although beaten tonight by Doncaster Knights 32-34, won overall two legs by 13 points. That's the 3rd time of asking for them after play-off defeats by L Welsh and Worcester but owners have deep pockets and Andy Robinson has been around the block as a top-level coach. They could become another Gloucester or Exeter and suddenly West Country rugby, adding Bath to the mix, is beginning to look like its historic strength as the centre of English rugby power.

Wasps qua Coventry, Leicester and Saints only need the resurrection of Moseley and the top-level map of English rugby will look like it did in the 60's, 70's and 80s


I thought Jack did well in the loose but he seemed to get schooled in the scrums, certainly gave away two penalties while I was watching. I thought it was a huge loss when he left but with McGrath, Dooley, Healy and Byrne I think we wouldn't have been able to give him game time. He'd be perfect type of player for Connacht.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby blockhead » April 8th, 2017, 12:02 pm

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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby johng » April 8th, 2017, 1:01 pm

No harm having a few lads abroad getting experienced. And very few on that list that you would be weeping bitter tears in anguish about.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby simonokeeffe » April 8th, 2017, 1:13 pm



if true (from Woods) then Ealing are throwing serious money around

minor quibble but some inclusions in the list are BS: George McGuigan is England capped, McGinty is obviously USA capped, Scholes but especially Allen have expressed their intention to declare for Scotland

cant find original article but one of the English papers had a piece on how Championship clubs are moving away from their own academies and just picking up guys from Premiership underage systems
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby Raydollard » April 8th, 2017, 1:48 pm

They may want to play for Scotland but Scotland would scarcely be interested?
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby Dave Cahill » April 8th, 2017, 1:50 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:


if true (from Woods) then Ealing are throwing serious money around

minor quibble but some inclusions in the list are BS: George McGuigan is England capped, McGinty is obviously USA capped, Scholes but especially Allen have expressed their intention to declare for Scotland

cant find original article but one of the English papers had a piece on how Championship clubs are moving away from their own academies and just picking up guys from Premiership underage systems

Its from the grauniad
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby simonokeeffe » April 8th, 2017, 5:29 pm

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When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby blockhead » September 9th, 2017, 10:18 pm

Keatley got 11pts for Munster
McKinley got 9pts (1 try) for Treviso
Cooney got 6pts for Ulster
Masterson got a try for Connacht
Beirne got a try for Scarlets
Well done to the exiles, :happy clapper:
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby simonokeeffe » September 11th, 2017, 8:37 am

Dippy played for Leicester but controversy over him not being withdrawn for a HIA
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby mildlyinterested » September 11th, 2017, 2:27 pm

List of players in other provinces who played Leinster schools/clubs:

Eric O'Sullivan(Prop/Templegoue) -> Ulster
JP Phelan(Prop/Newbridge) -> Munster
Denis Coulson(Prop/St. Michaels) -> Connacht
Denis Buckley(Prop/Blackrock) -> Connacht

Dave Heffernan(Hooker/Blackrock) -> Connacht
Shane Delahunt(Hooker/Kilkenny) -> Connacht

Jack Regan(Lock/Birr) -> Ulster
Alan O'Connor(Lock/Skerries) -> Ulster
Gavin Thornbury(Lock/Blackrock) -> Connacht
Fineen Wycherley(Lock/Roscrea) -> Munster

Greg Jones(Backrow/St. Andrews) -> Ulster
Nick Timoney(Backrow/Blackrock) -> Ulster
Robin Copeland(Backrow/Kilkenny) -> Munster
Conor Oliver(Backrow/Blackrock) -> Munster
Eoghan Masterson(Backrow/Portloaise) -> Connacht
Sean Masterson(Backrow/Portloaise) -> Connacht
James Connolly(Backrow/Newbridge) -> Connacht
Paul Boyle(Backrow/Gorey) -> Connacht
Sean O'Brien(Backrow/Roscrea) -> Connacht

James Hart(Scrumhalf/Belvedere) -> Munster
Conor McKeon(Scrumhalf/Gonzaga) -> Connacht
Dave Shanahan(Scrumhalf/Belvedere) -> Ulster
John Cooney(Scrumhalf/Gonzaga) -> Ulster

Ian Keatley(Outhalf/Belvedere) -> Munster
Steve Crosbie(Outhalf/St. Gerards) -> Connacht
Alan Tynan(Outhalf/Roscrea) -> Munster

Cormac Brennan(Centre/Roscrea) -> Connacht
Craig Ronaldson(Centre/Kilkenny) -> Connacht
Tom Farrell(Centre/Castleknock) -> Connacht
Peter Robb(Centre/Blackrock) -> Connacht

Andrew Conway(Back Three/Blackrock) -> Munster
Matthew Byrne(Back Three/Terenure) -> Connacht
Adam Leavy(Back Three/St. Michaels) -> Connacht
Matt Healy(Back Three/Gonzaga) -> Connacht
Niyi Adeolokun(Back Three/DLSP) -> Connacht
Cian Kelleher(Back Three/St. Michaels) -> Connacht
Jack Power(Fullback/Blackrock) -> Munster
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby johng » September 11th, 2017, 2:56 pm

That's an impressive and very useful list. One very small point. Sean O'Brien is from Clarinbridge co Galway. He may have gone to school in Roscrea but is a Galway boy.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby mildlyinterested » September 11th, 2017, 2:59 pm

johng wrote:That's an impressive and very useful list. One very small point. Sean O'Brien is from Clarinbridge co Galway. He may have gone to school in Roscrea but is a Galway boy.


I said players who played leinster schools or club.. didn't say where they were from.

Sean O'Brien played leinster schools rugby so I included him.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby johng » September 11th, 2017, 3:55 pm

Fair enough. Thanks for the list anyway. Makes interesting reading.
Hard to get established Leinster players to move provinces but that list shows a lot of lads who missed out on Leinster academy going to other provinces and a few of them getting capped for Ireland
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby mildlyinterested » September 11th, 2017, 3:58 pm

johng wrote:Fair enough. Thanks for the list anyway. Makes interesting reading.
Hard to get established Leinster players to move provinces but that list shows a lot of lads who missed out on Leinster academy going to other provinces and a few of them getting capped for Ireland


Players who were in Leinster Academy:

Gavin Thornbury(Lock/Blackrock) -> dev deal
John Cooney(Scrumhalf/Gonzaga) -> senior contract
Ian Keatley(Outhalf/Belvedere) -> 1 year
Steve Crosbie(Outhalf/St. Gerards) -> dev deal
Tom Farrell(Centre/Castleknock) -> full academy
Andrew Conway(Back Three/Blackrock) -> senior contract
Cian Kelleher(Back Three/St. Michaels) -> full academy
Jack Power(Fullback/Blackrock) -> 1 year

Most of the others got a sub academy go but weren't offered a leinster academy deal.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby curates_egg » September 12th, 2017, 7:32 am

blockhead wrote:Keatley got 11pts for Munster
McKinley got 9pts (1 try) for Treviso
Cooney got 6pts for Ulster
Masterson got a try for Connacht
Beirne got a try for Scarlets
Well done to the exiles, :happy clapper:


Madser got another kick assist and kicked over 10 points (missed a couple of touchline conversions I think).

Delighted for Cooney. Always rated him for us and was sad when he left. Move to Connacht didn't work out, but he could be in the right place at the right time with Ulster.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby Flash Gordon » September 12th, 2017, 11:37 am

mildlyinterested wrote:List of players in other provinces who played Leinster schools/clubs:

Eric O'Sullivan(Prop/Templegoue) -> Ulster
JP Phelan(Prop/Newbridge) -> Munster
Denis Coulson(Prop/St. Michaels) -> Connacht
Denis Buckley(Prop/Blackrock) -> Connacht

Dave Heffernan(Hooker/Blackrock) -> Connacht
Shane Delahunt(Hooker/Kilkenny) -> Connacht

Jack Regan(Lock/Birr) -> Ulster
Alan O'Connor(Lock/Skerries) -> Ulster
Gavin Thornbury(Lock/Blackrock) -> Connacht
Fineen Wycherley(Lock/Roscrea) -> Munster

Greg Jones(Backrow/St. Andrews) -> Ulster
Nick Timoney(Backrow/Blackrock) -> Ulster
Robin Copeland(Backrow/Kilkenny) -> Munster
Conor Oliver(Backrow/Blackrock) -> Munster
Eoghan Masterson(Backrow/Portloaise) -> Connacht
Sean Masterson(Backrow/Portloaise) -> Connacht
James Connolly(Backrow/Newbridge) -> Connacht
Paul Boyle(Backrow/Gorey) -> Connacht
Sean O'Brien(Backrow/Roscrea) -> Connacht

James Hart(Scrumhalf/Belvedere) -> Munster
Conor McKeon(Scrumhalf/Gonzaga) -> Connacht
Dave Shanahan(Scrumhalf/Belvedere) -> Ulster
John Cooney(Scrumhalf/Gonzaga) -> Ulster

Ian Keatley(Outhalf/Belvedere) -> Munster
Steve Crosbie(Outhalf/St. Gerards) -> Connacht
Alan Tynan(Outhalf/Roscrea) -> Munster

Cormac Brennan(Centre/Roscrea) -> Connacht
Craig Ronaldson(Centre/Kilkenny) -> Connacht
Tom Farrell(Centre/Castleknock) -> Connacht
Peter Robb(Centre/Blackrock) -> Connacht

Andrew Conway(Back Three/Blackrock) -> Munster
Matthew Byrne(Back Three/Terenure) -> Connacht
Adam Leavy(Back Three/St. Michaels) -> Connacht
Matt Healy(Back Three/Gonzaga) -> Connacht
Niyi Adeolokun(Back Three/DLSP) -> Connacht
Cian Kelleher(Back Three/St. Michaels) -> Connacht
Jack Power(Fullback/Blackrock) -> Munster


So 21 players at Connacht from the Leinster system? Kind of undermines the "they come over here stealing all our players" argument doesn't it?
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby scentofgunpowder » September 12th, 2017, 12:20 pm

To be fair, 5 of those are Connacht lads who went to Leinster schools, and Kelleher was probably the only one signed directly from Leinster against Leinster's wishes.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby mildlyinterested » September 12th, 2017, 12:22 pm

scentofgunpowder wrote:To be fair, 5 of those are Connacht lads who went to Leinster schools, and Kelleher was probably the only one signed directly from Leinster against Leinster's wishes.


5?

SOB, Dave Heffernan and Denis Buckley are the only "Connacht lads", who didn't play for Leinster underage teams that are at Connacht.
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Re: Leinster exiles, where are they.

Postby scentofgunpowder » September 12th, 2017, 12:30 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:
scentofgunpowder wrote:To be fair, 5 of those are Connacht lads who went to Leinster schools, and Kelleher was probably the only one signed directly from Leinster against Leinster's wishes.


5?

SOB, Dave Heffernan and Denis Buckley are the only "Connacht lads", who didn't play for Leinster underage teams that are at Connacht.


I just meant Connacht born, so Brennan and McKeon. To be honest I assumed McKeon was from Galway because he's Eoin's cousin, which is obviously not correct.
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