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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Ruckedtobits » February 27th, 2017, 10:51 am

Northampton can certainly afford that sort of wedge to a top-rank, place-kickin out-half. The question is, does Mads fulfill that description?

I believe he does,with a fast passing scrum-half who can take some heat with ocassional breaks, and a big ball-carrying mid-field which give him outlets for slow ball, without having to double skip or try to create gaps himself.

Myler is a competent place kicker and judicious controller of a backline, but not somebody who is going to set an attack alight. If Mads was playing with Dickson or Groom inside and Burrell, Estelles or Pisi in mid-field with George North and Pisi eile on the wings and Foden at full-back, he could add a lot more than just 90% kicking stats.

Saints are,like Leicester, in a slump, results wise and style wise. Mallinder is one of the three best Coaches in the Premiership but unless results start coming even that may not be enough to keep him in situ. Spending some of the boss's money, on the prospect of better days ahead, is a logical way to both distract from the present and bolster yourself against a current frailty, whilst focussing minds on the future.

If it has been offered, Mads and his agent should bite their hands off. In the meantime, practice his penalty line-kicking and kicking from hand from defensive positions. Both of those skills are weak but, when strengthened, make an out-half a legend to his own forwards. Mads could do with allies up front, as he hasn't had many in years past.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby curates_egg » February 28th, 2017, 1:46 pm

Bristol have apparently offered even more than 500k sterling to Mads but he has a deal pencilled with Northampton. Crazy money.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Laighin Break » February 28th, 2017, 2:57 pm

curates_egg wrote:Bristol have apparently offered even more than 500k sterling to Mads but he has a deal pencilled with Northampton. Crazy money.
http://www.punditarena.com/rugby/sokeef ... digan-bid/


That article seriously needs an editor to read over it :shock:
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby johng » March 2nd, 2017, 9:35 am

Oh no. We are up to 3 Simon o'keeffes. :shock:
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby simonokeeffe » March 2nd, 2017, 10:07 am

there can be only one
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby johng » March 2nd, 2017, 10:09 am

simonokeeffe wrote:there can be only one
When are you having "The Quickening"?
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby All Blacks nil » March 2nd, 2017, 10:16 am

I have seen very little of Madigan this season but will be interested to see if he has addressed his kickoffs, a particular glaring fault in his game. It is a required element within a top outhalf's arsenal and one that Madigan has either ignored or found impossible to master.

It's a pity things haven't gone well for him in France, as a couple of years as top dog in a 10 jersey would have been important for his development and could/would have been the making of him. As disappointed as he is with that I imagine the Bordeaux faithful can't be too impressed with his blatant posturing to leave 6 months into his first season.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Peg Leg » March 2nd, 2017, 11:14 am

Think he was told to seek a contract elsewhere
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Ruckedtobits » March 2nd, 2017, 11:52 am

Somewhat susprised to see reference this morning in an Indo interview with Farrell, Grenoble and soon to Munster, where he suggests that Mads kept a long-term groin injury hidden from Bordeaux S&C and medical staff for 5 months, because he didn't have full faith in them.

Not smart to behave like this but not clever of Chris Farrell to drop info like that so casually.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Golf Man » March 2nd, 2017, 12:22 pm

Peg Leg wrote:Think he was told to seek a contract elsewhere


I certainly didn't read it like that. The fact that he was so outspoken would suggest that he is definitely leaving (I'm assuming if it was still a possibility to stay he wouldn't be as openly critical). It all reflects badly on him though - suggesting that they do things a different way, attitudes aren't great, very hard slog - etc we could all have told him that
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby curates_egg » March 2nd, 2017, 12:43 pm

Golf Man wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:Think he was told to seek a contract elsewhere


I certainly didn't read it like that. The fact that he was so outspoken would suggest that he is definitely leaving (I'm assuming if it was still a possibility to stay he wouldn't be as openly critical). It all reflects badly on him though - suggesting that they do things a different way, attitudes aren't great, very hard slog - etc we could all have told him that


The interview with him I read suggested he was sidelined by Ibanez, went to talk to the president to try and figure out a way forward, and only then proactively started looking around (and publicising it).
Ibanez and co have come under serious fire and there are lots of report of Bordeaux being at sixes and sevens.
I went and saw them play at the start of the season. They had a very good start to the season too. Then something seemed to go wrong.
There was a big brouhaha when Ibanez started doing TV punditry instead of attending matches: he didn't travel to Exeter for the Champions Cup game and their season started to dramatically unravel after that.
A real shame as they were not only doing well but playing well. Madigan seemed to be enjoying playing with Serin, who - although young - is a classic controlling, general scrumhalf, which freed up Madigan to do the things he likes doing. I think his kicking from hand was still a bit cat though.
Then he got injured or got his injury treated and they re-signed that Kiwi outhalf, who hasn't exactly been doing well for them.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Xanthippe » March 3rd, 2017, 2:26 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:Somewhat susprised to see reference this morning in an Indo interview with Farrell, Grenoble and soon to Munster, where he suggests that Mads kept a long-term groin injury hidden from Bordeaux S&C and medical staff for 5 months, because he didn't have full faith in them.

Not smart to behave like this but not clever of Chris Farrell to drop info like that so casually.


It's not new news RTB. Mads told Murray Kinsella about the injury last week https://www.google.ie/amp/www.the42.ie/ian-madigan-ireland-provinces-bordeaux-3253563-Feb2017/%3Famp%3D1

Murray Kinsella wrote:
However, Madigan soon picked up a groin issue, which was related to the changes in training methodology at Bordeaux.

“I picked up a bit of a groin injury, which was partly down to the change in environment. I went from knowing how Leinster operates, their strength and conditioning coaches, to moving to a different environment in Bordeaux and having a different set-up with both their strength and their conditioning; the length of time on the pitch and I also had the added stress of being a regular starter.

“In France, a lot of the games come down to goal-kicking, so I was practicing my goal kicking more and more. Between doing the extra time with pitch sessions with the team – it is more regulated in Ireland, so it might be only on the field for an hour, an hour and 10 minutes, whereas in France you can be closer to an hour and a half, two hours.

“With that added in and the extra kicking I was doing, and also trying to maintain the strength work I was doing previously in Leinster and Ireland on top of that, I picked up a bit of a groin problem.”

Madigan says he attempted to manage the injury at first, but the intermittent pain began to affect his confidence and his performances levels waned. After his high-profile transfer from Ireland, he felt he wasn’t in a position to take time out to let his groin heal.

“I was probably feeling a bit of pressure, as I had just come into the club for seven or eight games – I’d had a good injury profile previously – so I was keeping it to myself.”

It culminated in “a poor personal performance” away to Castres in October, whereafter Madigan finally told Bordeaux’s medical team about the issue. After undergoing a scan, he was diagnosed with “a split in my tendon” and advised to take a month out of the game
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby curates_egg » March 3rd, 2017, 9:48 am

Xanthippe wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:Somewhat susprised to see reference this morning in an Indo interview with Farrell, Grenoble and soon to Munster, where he suggests that Mads kept a long-term groin injury hidden from Bordeaux S&C and medical staff for 5 months, because he didn't have full faith in them.

Not smart to behave like this but not clever of Chris Farrell to drop info like that so casually.


It's not new news RTB. Mads told Murray Kinsella about the injury last week https://www.google.ie/amp/www.the42.ie/ian-madigan-ireland-provinces-bordeaux-3253563-Feb2017/%3Famp%3D1

Murray Kinsella wrote:
However, Madigan soon picked up a groin issue, which was related to the changes in training methodology at Bordeaux.

“I picked up a bit of a groin injury, which was partly down to the change in environment. I went from knowing how Leinster operates, their strength and conditioning coaches, to moving to a different environment in Bordeaux and having a different set-up with both their strength and their conditioning; the length of time on the pitch and I also had the added stress of being a regular starter.

“In France, a lot of the games come down to goal-kicking, so I was practicing my goal kicking more and more. Between doing the extra time with pitch sessions with the team – it is more regulated in Ireland, so it might be only on the field for an hour, an hour and 10 minutes, whereas in France you can be closer to an hour and a half, two hours.

“With that added in and the extra kicking I was doing, and also trying to maintain the strength work I was doing previously in Leinster and Ireland on top of that, I picked up a bit of a groin problem.”

Madigan says he attempted to manage the injury at first, but the intermittent pain began to affect his confidence and his performances levels waned. After his high-profile transfer from Ireland, he felt he wasn’t in a position to take time out to let his groin heal.

“I was probably feeling a bit of pressure, as I had just come into the club for seven or eight games – I’d had a good injury profile previously – so I was keeping it to myself.”

It culminated in “a poor personal performance” away to Castres in October, whereafter Madigan finally told Bordeaux’s medical team about the issue. After undergoing a scan, he was diagnosed with “a split in my tendon” and advised to take a month out of the game


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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Xanthippe » March 4th, 2017, 4:37 am

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2.26 am Xan? I hope you're on holliers in Amereeka!

Nope. Insomnia's a pain in the arse - as is the arthritis which makes the insomnia so much more painful
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Ruckedtobits » March 4th, 2017, 10:11 am

Xanthippe wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:Somewhat susprised to see reference this morning in an Indo interview with Farrell, Grenoble and soon to Munster, where he suggests that Mads kept a long-term groin injury hidden from Bordeaux S&C and medical staff for 5 months, because he didn't have full faith in them.

Not smart to behave like this but not clever of Chris Farrell to drop info like that so casually.


It's not new news RTB. Mads told Murray Kinsella about the injury last week https://www.google.ie/amp/www.the42.ie/ian-madigan-ireland-provinces-bordeaux-3253563-Feb2017/%3Famp%3D1

Murray Kinsella wrote:
However, Madigan soon picked up a groin issue, which was related to the changes in training methodology at Bordeaux.

“I picked up a bit of a groin injury, which was partly down to the change in environment. I went from knowing how Leinster operates, their strength and conditioning coaches, to moving to a different environment in Bordeaux and having a different set-up with both their strength and their conditioning; the length of time on the pitch and I also had the added stress of being a regular starter.

“In France, a lot of the games come down to goal-kicking, so I was practicing my goal kicking more and more. Between doing the extra time with pitch sessions with the team – it is more regulated in Ireland, so it might be only on the field for an hour, an hour and 10 minutes, whereas in France you can be closer to an hour and a half, two hours.

“With that added in and the extra kicking I was doing, and also trying to maintain the strength work I was doing previously in Leinster and Ireland on top of that, I picked up a bit of a groin problem.”

Madigan says he attempted to manage the injury at first, but the intermittent pain began to affect his confidence and his performances levels waned. After his high-profile transfer from Ireland, he felt he wasn’t in a position to take time out to let his groin heal.

“I was probably feeling a bit of pressure, as I had just come into the club for seven or eight games – I’d had a good injury profile previously – so I was keeping it to myself.”

It culminated in “a poor personal performance” away to Castres in October, whereafter Madigan finally told Bordeaux’s medical team about the issue. After undergoing a scan, he was diagnosed with “a split in my tendon” and advised to take a month out of the game


Thanks Xan, I stand corrected, with apologies to Chris Farrell.

Certainly a bad call by Mads to try to self-diagnose or self-monitor an injury as difficult as this. It doesn't suggest that the Bordeaux set-up has the management structure to optimise their recruitment capacity.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby curates_egg » March 5th, 2017, 7:52 pm

Anyone see the Franno article on Mads today? Franno at the peak of his bluster.
Madigan is probably wishing for a Bobby Ewing shower scene where everyone else has only dreamt he went away.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby wixfjord » March 5th, 2017, 8:19 pm

Franno is right on a lot in that article I must say.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Hornet » March 5th, 2017, 8:34 pm

Xanthippe wrote:
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2.26 am Xan? I hope you're on holliers in Amereeka!

Nope. Insomnia's a pain in the arse - as is the arthritis which makes the insomnia so much more painful


Just looked at your points table on twitter. An increase in points at this time in the season every year from the previous. That's mad Ted! :happy clapper: :happy clapper: :happy clapper:
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Grumpy Old Man » March 5th, 2017, 10:06 pm

Off to Bristol, according to reports.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Dave Cahill » March 5th, 2017, 10:08 pm

Thats a mad thing to do Ted
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