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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby simonokeeffe » February 21st, 2017, 1:38 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
Golf Man wrote:Only place he could go would be Connacht - not sure he'd go or they would want him tbh - Boshoff is there and probably a bit more like what Connacht need, rather than Madigan. I'd love him to go there but in reality he would be more of a 10/12 and possibly more 12/10 if he did - obviously would be a big drop in pay as well


If Schmidt wants him back in Ireland a place will be found for him and Boshoff will have a lot of time for sightseeing.

I don't think Schmidt is particularly concerned though, apart from a belt and braces POV. He has Sexton, Jackson, Carbery, Keatley and Byrne and he will have Bleyandaal (I'm going to have to learn how to spell that properly!) next year.


just say TB Dave, its the easy way around it

but think youre right, when TB IQs next Jan we've a good amount of outhalves
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Peg Leg » February 21st, 2017, 1:49 pm

BlueBlue wrote:Northampton, not because I wish it, but because I think it will happen.

They love a flakey Irish 10/12 over there.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Golf Man » February 21st, 2017, 2:14 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
Golf Man wrote:Only place he could go would be Connacht - not sure he'd go or they would want him tbh - Boshoff is there and probably a bit more like what Connacht need, rather than Madigan. I'd love him to go there but in reality he would be more of a 10/12 and possibly more 12/10 if he did - obviously would be a big drop in pay as well


If Schmidt wants him back in Ireland a place will be found for him and Boshoff will have a lot of time for sightseeing.

I don't think Schmidt is particularly concerned though, apart from a belt and braces POV. He has Sexton, Jackson, Carbery, Keatley and Byrne and he will have Bleyandaal (I'm going to have to learn how to spell that properly!) next year.


Well he probably won't have Keatley as he is likely to leave Munster - might go back to Connacht, but France seems to be the likely destination

No where near as simple as you make out though - Schmidt would probably like all of them in Ireland so that they are available to him, but he simply can't make them - we have enough evidence of this. I'm sure Schmidt would like Moore to be playing in Ireland for example but if he doesn't want to join another province and they don't want to pay him what he'll get elsewhere then nothing Schmidt or anyone else can do.

Connacht is the only option for Madigan and Schmidt could well encourage Madigan to go there, but they ain't going to be topping up salaries for the likes of Madigan - he simply is not at that level. It would be great to see Madigan in Connacht and turning down bigger money, but there is no guarantee he would start at Connacht. Hasn't got ahead of Jimmy Gopperth and Simon Hickey in his two most recent clubs - is he likely to get past Boshoff?

Madigan unfortunately for him is always likely to be seen as versatile - thats attractive in its own right and maybe he should accept that.

Big move for him next wherever he goes
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby MunsterSugar » February 21st, 2017, 2:23 pm

Wouldn't Madigan be suited to Connacht game. I think he'd be a superstar in Super Rugby as his game is suited more to sH than Europe

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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby arsebiscuits1 » February 21st, 2017, 4:21 pm

He should come back to Ireland and play Scrumhalf :lol: :lol:
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Golf Man » February 21st, 2017, 4:57 pm

MunsterSugar wrote:Wouldn't Madigan be suited to Connacht game. I think he'd be a superstar in Super Rugby as his game is suited more to sH than Europe

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Don't necessarily think so - as a 12 quite possibly - I think they need a little bit more control at 10 to counter/balance the general approach

On teh southernm hemisphere - not for me - all the best out halves down there, know how to control the game - he might be able to make more use of his off teh cuff approach, but his game management has always been the issue. I think he was figured out to some extent after 2013, and probably hasn't adapted as well as hoped, despite some very good days. Would have liked to see him more at 12 tbh
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby simonokeeffe » February 21st, 2017, 7:45 pm

arsebiscuits1 wrote:He should come back to Ireland and play Scrumhalf :lol: :lol:


stop it you :P
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby tingman » February 22nd, 2017, 12:04 am

scrum half - ulster.....the pipes are calling.....
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby simonokeeffe » February 22nd, 2017, 2:10 pm

tingman wrote:scrum half - ulster.....the pipes are calling.....


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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby joooooe » February 22nd, 2017, 8:46 pm

Madigan was just on 2FM and he REALLY wants a move to Connacht.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby riocard911 » February 22nd, 2017, 9:35 pm

joooooe wrote:Madigan was just on 2FM and he REALLY wants a move to Connacht.


Great stuff. A move there could be just the thing for him. I hope it comes about.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Oldschool » February 22nd, 2017, 9:49 pm

riocard911 wrote:
joooooe wrote:Madigan was just on 2FM and he REALLY wants a move to Connacht.


Great stuff. A move there could be just the thing for him. I hope it comes about.

Are we going to lose Ray, tho?
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby simonokeeffe » February 22nd, 2017, 9:55 pm

Oldschool wrote:
riocard911 wrote:
joooooe wrote:Madigan was just on 2FM and he REALLY wants a move to Connacht.


Great stuff. A move there could be just the thing for him. I hope it comes about.

Are we going to lose Ray, tho?


not as long as we keep Noel Reid

IRFU shouldve offered him a central to stay in Ireland, but it is heartening to see how much playing for Ireland means to him
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Oldschoolsocks » February 22nd, 2017, 11:45 pm

I'm pretty certain Ray still is in Ireland, he's not for moving him!!


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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby neilinboston » February 23rd, 2017, 3:43 am

Can we stop with the 'poor lad hasn't adapted to another country' bullshit. We're a land of emigrants. Wherever we go there's a pub with our name on it.

Jaysus the drizzle isn't that good!
He's an hour from home. He spent summers there as a kid.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby hugonaut » February 23rd, 2017, 8:04 am

neilinboston wrote:Can we stop with the 'poor lad hasn't adapted to another country' bullshit. We're a land of emigrants. Wherever we go there's a pub with our name on it.

Jaysus the drizzle isn't that good!
He's an hour from home. He spent summers there as a kid.


What is this comment in relation to? I think one person has mentioned [in a single sentence, almost in passing] that he may have struggled to adapt to living in a foreign country!
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Laighin Break » February 23rd, 2017, 9:49 am

hugonaut wrote:
neilinboston wrote:Can we stop with the 'poor lad hasn't adapted to another country' bullshit. We're a land of emigrants. Wherever we go there's a pub with our name on it.

Jaysus the drizzle isn't that good!
He's an hour from home. He spent summers there as a kid.


What is this comment in relation to? I think one person has mentioned [in a single sentence, almost in passing] that he may have struggled to adapt to living in a foreign country!


Very strange comment indeed.
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby simonokeeffe » February 23rd, 2017, 9:50 am

Seems to be a case of not getting enough starts/relationship with coach and international exile

reading the interview on RTE he seems annoyed over the players being roatted in general and big names like AAC leaving but it seems like a trade dispute with his employers as much as anything
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby Logorrhea » February 23rd, 2017, 11:39 am

hugonaut wrote:I think one person has mentioned [in a single sentence, almost in passing] that he may have struggled to adapt to living in a foreign country!


Ye see there it is again. For the love of god will people stop bringing this up.!
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Re: Mads to Bordeaux - confirmed

Postby erskinechilders » February 23rd, 2017, 12:48 pm

My god Nucifora and Schmidt must be grinning like Cheshire cats at this news. Really solidifies their no-foreigners policy. If he gets his way and Bordeaux cancel the remaining year it would be a massive opportunity for the IRFU. They have to try and do something about Boschoff in Connacht.

Madigan returning to Leinster would be pointless imo. They've discovered both Carbery and Byrne because of his departure. Connacht would be the ideal scenario and with him going there it would be a top class IQ out-half in each province ( Bleyendaal qualifies next year ), as well as that a future Irish 10 behind each one of those players.

Leinster : Sexton, Carbery, Byrne, Marsh
Munster : Bleyendaal, JJ Harrahan, Johnston ( Keatley probably gone )
Ulster : Jackson, Herron, McPhillips
Connacht : Madigan , Carty
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