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blockhead wrote: Oh Yeah, 3 Pro14 home QFs.
Up yours Nigels!!!
Ah you have to feel sorry for Nige, if only there was relegation in the Pro14, England would have 9 teams in the quarter finals.

Better change the rules again.
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COYBIB wrote:
blockhead wrote: Oh Yeah, 3 Pro14 home QFs.
Up yours Nigels!!!
Ah you have to feel sorry for Nige, if only there was relegation in the Pro14, England would have 9 teams in the quarter finals.

Better change the rules again.
The B&I Q/Fs?
I presume you mean that there would have to be a pre Qualifying Q/F between two teams.
Or at least an eliminator Q/F.
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COYBIB wrote:
blockhead wrote: Oh Yeah, 3 Pro14 home QFs.
Up yours Nigels!!!
Ah you have to feel sorry for Nige, if only there was relegation in the Pro14, England would have 9 teams in the quarter finals.

Better change the rules again.
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Munster should have stopped after the third try... they just threw away their advantage.

They would have had a home QF, and a possible SF in the Aviva or London... now they'll have to go to France!
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Good idea to merge Ulster and Connacht and get three strong provinces while saving a packet of money. This would re-energise Ulster and bring a good end to the Connacht experiment.
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Raydollard wrote:Good idea to merge Ulster and Connacht and get three strong provinces while saving a packet of money. This would re-energise Ulster and bring a good end to the Connacht experiment.
Nonsense we need Connacht as our junior academy.
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It's not ideal, makes the route to the final that bit harder, but if we cant beat them at home we won't beat them on the road.
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Not a huge reward for finishing top of the pile but that's the way it goes

I'm not a fan of the new arrangements for the SF


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Raydollard wrote:Good idea to merge Ulster and Connacht and get three strong provinces while saving a packet of money. This would re-energise Ulster and bring a good end to the Connacht experiment.
Saving money? You'd begin the death of rugby in Ireland by 1,000 cuts. Connacht are going places, Ulster are down but have the player base to come good again. Both are providing young and experienced players to the national team and have growing fan bases and are beginning in Connacht's case to be a TV draw in Euro comps.

You cut one pro team in five years revenues will fall, fans will fall away from the provincial game, players will more and more go to France/England. The national side and by extension the whole six nations would suffer. At best we'd be back to the 90's/early 00's, at worse it'd be the beginning of the end of the international game being sidelined by club in England/France. You'd give PRL everything they want.
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TerenureJim wrote:
Raydollard wrote:Good idea to merge Ulster and Connacht and get three strong provinces while saving a packet of money. This would re-energise Ulster and bring a good end to the Connacht experiment.
Saving money? You'd begin the death of rugby in Ireland by 1,000 cuts. Connacht are going places, Ulster are down but have the player base to come good again. Both are providing young and experienced players to the national team and have growing fan bases and are beginning in Connacht's case to be a TV draw in Euro comps.

You cut one pro team in five years revenues will fall, fans will fall away from the provincial game, players will more and more go to France/England. The national side and by extension the whole six nations would suffer. At best we'd be back to the 90's/early 00's, at worse it'd be the beginning of the end of the international game being sidelined by club in England/France. You'd give PRL everything they want.
Quite. One of the more silly ideas raised here.


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Only the strong survive. Connacht is a basket case. Ulster is getting there. What’s so wrong about having three top European clubs? It will come.
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TerenureJim wrote:
Raydollard wrote:Good idea to merge Ulster and Connacht and get three strong provinces while saving a packet of money. This would re-energise Ulster and bring a good end to the Connacht experiment.
Saving money? You'd begin the death of rugby in Ireland by 1,000 cuts. Connacht are going places, Ulster are down but have the player base to come good again. Both are providing young and experienced players to the national team and have growing fan bases and are beginning in Connacht's case to be a TV draw in Euro comps.

You cut one pro team in five years revenues will fall, fans will fall away from the provincial game, players will more and more go to France/England. The national side and by extension the whole six nations would suffer. At best we'd be back to the 90's/early 00's, at worse it'd be the beginning of the end of the international game being sidelined by club in England/France. You'd give PRL everything they want.
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There's something very wrong in a system where you qualify as top seeds with a 100% record, but you're relying on 2 results to go your way to get a home semi. Your game and an entirely different game. The situation is compounded by having Saracens but let's put that down to an unfortunate draw. Next year it could be Quins etc. The top seeds should not be relying on results elsewhere to get a home semi (should they win their QF)
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Raydollard wrote:Only the strong survive. Connacht is a basket case. Ulster is getting there. What’s so wrong about having three top European clubs? It will come.
To be honest you're probably right we should just bite the bullet and start supporting English teams it's inevitable. Something tells me you'll pick Bristol?
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Scarlets have an awful lot of players involved with Wales, playing the week after 6n could be very disruptive for them

At least our opposition will also be discommoded
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[quote="simonokeeffe"]Scarlets have an awful lot of players involved with Wales, playing the week after 6n could be very disruptive for them

At least our opposition will also be discommoded[/quote
Do Saracens and La Rochelle have many involved ?.
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I heard that Sarries have 11 involved, 8 english, 2 welsh and 1 scot
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The completion of the group stage has left us with a mouth watering vista: Saracen's for starters in Dublin; Scarlets - the greatest hurdle in our quest for a fourth star, IMO, as I can't see La Rochelle getting a win in Llanelli - as the main course also - luckily - in Dublin; followed by hopefully our provincial rivals Munster for dessert in Bilbao. Am feeling confident. BRING! IT!! ON!!!!
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Raydollard wrote:Only the strong survive. Connacht is a basket case. Ulster is getting there. What’s so wrong about having three top European clubs? It will come.
We can have our cake and eat.
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riocard911 wrote:The completion of the group stage has left us with a mouth watering vista: Saracen's for starters in Dublin; Scarlets - the greatest hurdle in our quest for a fourth star, IMO, as I can't see La Rochelle getting a win in Llanelli - as the main course also - luckily - in Dublin; followed by hopefully our provincial rivals Munster for dessert in Bilbao. Am feeling confident. BRING! IT!! ON!!!!
Whatever about our run to the final, I can't see Munster overcoming Clermont away in France. If we manage to get to Bilbao, then I expect it to be a classic against our favourite enemy from the tire factory.
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