Injuries 16/17

[simonokeeffe]

Sexton could be given a few months off:
http://www.the42.ie/johnny-sexton-rest- ... =shortlink
Leinster press conference today.

Would be a disaster if true. It was a risk signing him with his injury profile. A risk that was compounded by losing Madigan.
Sure, Carbery has looked great but we are now potentially going into 4 Heineken Cup games heavily dependent on a 21 year old at out half. Marsh is injured and Byrne, while having looked ok, is clearly not ready for European action.

Given he's a centrally contracted player (to the IRFU and a 'mysterious benefactor') it wasn't really our risk. It may or may not have been a factor in Madigan leaving though. I'm all for him taking a break if it will benefit him the way it did McCaw & Carter. I'd rather a fully fit Sexton that the current situation - for his sake and our sake. However, it'll leave a sour taste in the mouth if the Lions are the ones who end up benefitting from this. I've really gone off the whole Lions malarky in the years since 09.

The risk is really that Leinster go into Europe with completely inadequate resources at 10. Carbery for all his promise is still a kid whose body is developing. Not having a world class goalkicker is also an issue.

the kicking would be more of a concern but we have Isa for that even if he isnt the longest range kicker of all time

[Flash Gordon]

Given he's a centrally contracted player (to the IRFU and a 'mysterious benefactor') it wasn't really our risk. It may or may not have been a factor in Madigan leaving though. I'm all for him taking a break if it will benefit him the way it did McCaw & Carter. I'd rather a fully fit Sexton that the current situation - for his sake and our sake. However, it'll leave a sour taste in the mouth if the Lions are the ones who end up benefitting from this. I've really gone off the whole Lions malarky in the years since 09.

The risk is really that Leinster go into Europe with completely inadequate resources at 10. Carbery for all his promise is still a kid whose body is developing. Not having a world class goalkicker is also an issue.

the kicking would be more of a concern but we have Isa for that even if he isnt the longest range kicker of all time

Yep on the kicking. If you think of our successful European campaigns 0-5 point wins dot the progress so it's pretty critical. I do think they will need to look after him physically, he's got a hell of a future but at the moment he's 30-35 kilos lighter than the lads who will be hitting him.

Interesting when you think about player development and Isa, his presence means we can take the load off Joey a bit and you've got to be learning a load from a lad with his experience.

[Ruckedtobits]

James Ryan is out for 5 months after an op on his hammer

Jesus, Leinster rugby players and massive hamstring injuries – Healy, O'Brien and now Ryan. The Strength and Conditioning staff urgently need to examine what they're doing with regards to lower-body and posterior chain work. We had something like this before a number of years ago with hip complaints.

The hip problem was the academy/younger players doing too much/too heavy squatting; getting ahead of what their bodies could take
IIRC it was Ruddock, O'Malley, DK with exact same injury but now the academy players all have regular scans

would love to know similar (hamstring injury) ratios for other teams

could well be a deadlifting issue

Overheard Medico-Fitness Conference chat between Physio and S&C head honcho was centred on use of "Watt Bike". Physio had horror stories from Ice Hockey & NFL.

[simonokeeffe]

interesting

youd think rugby/Europe wouldnt lag much behind other sports any more

[erskinechilders]

Its a wonder Leinster aren't further ahead than most other teams in Europe when it comes injury prevention. Stephen Smith, former staff member, set up Kitman Labs which deals exactly in this field. They're now being hired by the LA Dodgers and Miami Dolphins. He did a really interesting interview with OTB recently explaining exactly what they do. Leinster were there first ever employers so should be better at this than most. Maybe they should get them back in!

Here's there interview with OTB :

http://offtheball.newstalk.com/player/p ... 8/1/cp_12/

Interesting article regarding they're work with the Dolphins,View from ESPN.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/1366 ... rogram-nfl

[Ruckedtobits]

Absolutely fascinating. Now, when are they going to really analyse Jamie and find out what he's doing and how he avoids injury?

[wixfjord]

With Heaslip, it seems to be a combo of three things:

Genetics (the neanderthal blood!)
His playing style & body shape (not top heavy like SOB, Healy, Ferriss)
and ridiculous levels of professionalism (sleeping on oxegen tents, hyperbaric chambers, leg recovery devices etc)

I don't think we'll ever see anyone like him again!

[Oldschool]

With Heaslip, it seems to be a combo of three things:

Genetics (the neanderthal blood!)
His playing style & body shape (not top heavy like SOB, Healy, Ferriss)
and ridiculous levels of professionalism (sleeping on oxegen tents, hyperbaric chambers, leg recovery devices etc)

I don't think we'll ever see anyone like him again!

That's very interesting stuff.
Is there any more detailed info.

[Grumpy Old Man]

Absolutely fascinating. Now, when are they going to really analyse Jamie and find out what he's doing and how he avoids injury?

Think Jamie may have been an early investor - I certainly remember him giving them plenty of publicity.

[erskinechilders]

He is, Smith mentions himself and Cheika as stakeholders in the business!

[Lar]

Have I not read elsewhere that Jamie does yoga/pilates and this keeps him supple as well as strong thus limiting his susceptibility to injury? If true the S&C peeps should be on it.

Or was I being wound up?

[Dave Cahill]

you weren't - he does

[riocard911]

Om........

[Peg Leg]

Om........

Let's leave the gods out of this.

[wixfjord]

Have I not read elsewhere that Jamie does yoga/pilates and this keeps him supple as well as strong thus limiting his susceptibility to injury? If true the S&C peeps should be on it.

Or was I being wound up?

He has spoken before about being given a book called 'Supple Leopard' (I sh1t you not!) and employing some of the exercises in this.
There's a few pics of him before games using resistance bands in strange ways.

I think most of the players do some level of yoga/pilates regularly. Darce has his own yoga hub now, so I'm sure he'd give them a good deal!

[jimbobjoe]

Have I not read elsewhere that Jamie does yoga/pilates and this keeps him supple as well as strong thus limiting his susceptibility to injury? If true the S&C peeps should be on it.

Or was I being wound up?

He has spoken before about being given a book called 'Supple Leopard' (I sh1t you not!) and employing some of the exercises in this.
There's a few pics of him before games using resistance bands in strange ways.

I think most of the players do some level of yoga/pilates regularly. Darce has his own yoga hub now, so I'm sure he'd give them a good deal!

Here you go..

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Becoming-Suppl ... le+leopard

[simonokeeffe]

42 quoting Leo as expecting Johnny back for one of the festive interpros

[Morf]

Any idea on the situation for Ed Byrne?

Is he injured again?

[Dave Cahill]

Carbery could be out for up to 6 weeks according to Fanning in the Sindo

[CiaranIrl]

Carbery could be out for up to 6 weeks according to Fanning in the Sindo

ST says Kearney& O'Brien should be fine for Saturday, but Carbery is out.