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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Gearzbox2 » April 5th, 2017, 3:33 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I wouldn't fancy moving to a new country with newborn twins, it'd be an absolute nightmare.



Be great craic I'd say lumping everyone over
I'm sure the money would ease the hassle
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » April 5th, 2017, 6:23 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Croninto be bumped up to central surely


Wouldn't have thought so @sok, given the progress of Scannell and the prospects emerging elsewhere including Treacy, McCartney, Heffernan, Herring and even Marshall.


Only saying that as hes not on our list of renewals but just like Ryan these (IRFU) decisions would have been made last November or so

We wouldnt want him to leave
Joe wouldnt want him to leave
Seems well settled, has newborn kids so upheaval etc, likes winning trophies with us, wants to play in RWC, I'd guess he has unfinished business with Ireland given his low minutes per cap

Only reason I can think of him wanting to leave is he's aggrieved over not getting a central and or has Niall Woods as his agent and or is doing some Pat Lam style future proofing

The family thing seems like the biggest anchor to me and I dont see any chance of him going to another province
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Dave Cahill » April 5th, 2017, 7:00 pm

The word is that Cronin and McFadden both got on the last carriage of the three year contract train two years ago
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » April 5th, 2017, 8:45 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:The word is that Cronin and McFadden both got on the last carriage of the three year contract train two years ago


So we can blame MOC then?
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Gearzbox2 » April 5th, 2017, 9:08 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:The word is that Cronin and McFadden both got on the last carriage of the three year contract train two years ago


So we can blame MOC then?


Blame MOC for what exactly...keeping 2 quality players
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Dave Cahill » April 5th, 2017, 9:16 pm

Whoosh!
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby ronk » April 5th, 2017, 10:14 pm

goreyguy wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:Based on recent selections, but with no immediate memory of original contract terms, a little surprise at inclusion of Nagle AND Kearney. With Ryan's return expectedand possible return from NZ of our former Academy player, I would have thought this would be a choice of one of them.


Not sure what is happening with thornbury, would be surprised now if he signed with leinster.

Locks for next season:
Scott Fardy
Devin Toner
Ian Nagle
Mick Kearney
Ross Molony
James Ryan


That's a reasonable squad but there could be room for one more (which means we won't sign one).
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby ronk » April 5th, 2017, 10:43 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:I'd say its accurate because it came out in a piece that was published shortly after the IRFU started getting criticised over Ryan wanting to play anywhere but Munster. The list of names have the finger prints of Browne all over them

Edit: it was the complete set that Thornley had, for the entire four (three actually as no connacht players are centrally contracted) provinces - which in itself is weird, as no journalist has ever put such a list together before. Its like the provinces publishing their accounts publically the year that Eamon Ryan had his broadcasting thingy


http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/36936.php#.WOTK_caCOK0

If you read that it's very careful not to say who the contract is with.

Someone in LR told me about the above so pretty confident about it.


The contract runs until after the World Cup...
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » April 5th, 2017, 10:49 pm

...which doesn't affect what I said about it.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby paddyor » April 6th, 2017, 12:19 am

ronk wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:I'd say its accurate because it came out in a piece that was published shortly after the IRFU started getting criticised over Ryan wanting to play anywhere but Munster. The list of names have the finger prints of Browne all over them

Edit: it was the complete set that Thornley had, for the entire four (three actually as no connacht players are centrally contracted) provinces - which in itself is weird, as no journalist has ever put such a list together before. Its like the provinces publishing their accounts publically the year that Eamon Ryan had his broadcasting thingy


http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/36936.php#.WOTK_caCOK0

If you read that it's very careful not to say who the contract is with.

Someone in LR told me about the above so pretty confident about it.


The contract runs until after the World Cup...

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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby goreyguy » April 6th, 2017, 8:43 am

Senior Squad next season

Loosehead Prop
Cian Healy - Signed central 3yr contract in 2016
Jack McGrath - Signed central 3yr contract in 2016
Ed Byrne - Signed contract in 2017
Peter Dooley - Signed contract in 2016

Hooker
Richardt Strauss - Signed contract in 2017
Sean Cronin - Signed 3yr contract in 2015
James Tracy - Signed contract in 2016
Bryan Byrne - Signed contract in 2017

Tighthead Prop
Michael Bent - Signed contract in 2016
Tadhg Furlong - Signed contract in 2016
Andrew Porter - Signed contract in 2017

Lock
Scott Fardy - Signed 2 yr contract in 2017
Devin Toner - Signed central 3yr contract in 2017
Ian Nagle - Signed contract in 2017
Mick Kearney - Signed contract in 2017
Ross Molony - Signed contract in 2016
James Ryan - Signed contract in 2017

Backrow
Jamie Heaslip - Signed central 3 yr contract in 2017
Sean O'Brien - Signed central 3 yr contract in 2016
Rhys Ruddock - Signed contract in 2016
Jordi Murphy - Signed contract in 2017
Jack Conan - Signed contract in 2017
Josh Van Der Flier - Signed contract in 2016
Dan Leavy - Signed contract in 2017
Peadar Timmins - Signed contract in 2017

Scrumhalf
Jamie Gibson Park - Signed 3 yr contract in 2016
Luke McGrath - Signed contract in 2017
Nick McCarthy - Signed contract in 2017

Outhalf
Jonathan Sexton - Signed central 4 yr contract in 2015
Cathal Marsh - Signed contract in 2016
Ross Byrne - Signed contract in 2017
Joey Carbery - Signed contract in 2017

Centre
Noel Reid - Signed contract in 2017
Robbie Henshaw - Signed 3yr contract in 2016
Tom Daly - Signed contract in 2017
Garry Ringrose - Signed contract in 2016
Rory O'Loughlin - Signed contract in 2017

Back Three
Isa Nacewa - Signed 2yr contract in 2016
Rob Kearney - Signed central 3 yr contract in 2015
Fergus McFadden - Signed 3yr contract in 2015
Dave Kearney - Signed contract in 2016
James Lowe - Signed 3yr contract in 2017
Barry Daly - Signed contract in 2017
Adam Byrne - Signed contract in 2017
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby johng » April 6th, 2017, 9:31 am

Good info there GG. Well presented as to when contracts signed. Undoubtedly some of those signed this year got longer than a year's contract. It will become clearer in the future

44 man senior squad. A bit bigger than we normally have.

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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby goreyguy » April 6th, 2017, 9:37 am

johng wrote:Good info there GG. Well presented as to when contracts signed. Undoubtedly some of those signed this year got longer than a year's contract. It will become clearer in the future

44 man senior squad. A bit bigger than we normally have.

(Quickly turns eyes to Academy thread)


I think it's fair to assume most if not all of the playes who signed a contract in 2016, signed a 2 year deal and are up next season.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby johng » April 6th, 2017, 9:41 am

goreyguy wrote:
johng wrote:Good info there GG. Well presented as to when contracts signed. Undoubtedly some of those signed this year got longer than a year's contract. It will become clearer in the future

44 man senior squad. A bit bigger than we normally have.

(Quickly turns eyes to Academy thread)


I think it's fair to assume most if not all of the playes who signed a contract in 2016, signed a 2 year deal and are up next season.

Sure. 4 year deals are rare and they can't have got 1 year or they would be gone. So 2 with the exceptional 3 would be logical.

Hard to judge this year's ones though. You would think that some of the Academy promotions got a 1 year deal. But the likes of Carberry (for example) could easily be 3
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Dave Cahill » April 6th, 2017, 9:51 am

Anyone know where Billy Dardis is headed?
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » April 6th, 2017, 12:21 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:Whoosh!


That one achieved orbit
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » April 6th, 2017, 12:39 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:Anyone know where Billy Dardis is headed?


No but I believe Connacht wanted him last summer.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Xanthippe » April 6th, 2017, 3:01 pm

goreyguy wrote:Senior Squad next season

Loosehead Prop
Peter Dooley - Signed contract in 2016

Lock
Ross Molony - Signed contract in 2016

Centre
Garry Ringrose - Signed contract in 2016



Plenty of talk about Dardis but none about the above three who, along with Dardis, Byrne and Daly were promoted from the academy at the end of last season. At the time Peter Smyth, the Leinster Rugby Academy Manager, said: “....A number of players graduating from the Academy have secured professional contracts for the upcoming season with Leinster and elsewhere....
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby goreyguy » April 6th, 2017, 3:11 pm

Xanthippe wrote:
goreyguy wrote:Senior Squad next season

Loosehead Prop
Peter Dooley - Signed contract in 2016

Lock
Ross Molony - Signed contract in 2016

Centre
Garry Ringrose - Signed contract in 2016



Plenty of talk about Dardis but none about the above three who, along with Dardis, Byrne and Daly were promoted from the academy at the end of last season. At the time Peter Smyth, the Leinster Rugby Academy Manager, said: “....A number of players graduating from the Academy have secured professional contracts for the upcoming season with Leinster and elsewhere....


All three signed 2 year deals out of the academy.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby wixfjord » April 6th, 2017, 3:12 pm

Xanthippe wrote:
goreyguy wrote:Senior Squad next season

Loosehead Prop
Peter Dooley - Signed contract in 2016

Lock
Ross Molony - Signed contract in 2016

Centre
Garry Ringrose - Signed contract in 2016



Plenty of talk about Dardis but none about the above three who, along with Dardis, Byrne and Daly were promoted from the academy at the end of last season. At the time Peter Smyth, the Leinster Rugby Academy Manager, said: “....A number of players graduating from the Academy have secured professional contracts for the upcoming season with Leinster and elsewhere....


They surely would've nailed these guys down to 2 years right?

Along with the two others, I really hope we're keeping Dooley. Shown some real class again this season and I was afraid he would be moved on due to lack of gametime. With Porter moving to TH he should get a good bit more next season. Would have no fear of him stepping into a European or Pro12 knockout game.
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