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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Armchair » July 19th, 2017, 1:20 pm

Laighin Break wrote:
paddyor wrote:I could see us being allowed to sign someone and not use them like Munster with Sean Doyle in 2015 (IIRC) or us with that prop Saffer Van Whatisname (also in 2015/6 IIRC).


Max Van Dyk did get to play once.


Wont happenwe wont get permission to sign medical joker unless Henshaw has serious relapse even then maybe not
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » July 20th, 2017, 9:16 am

Johnny good to go for preseason according to Indo

Played third test with broken wrist and second half of said game with damaged ankle tendon!
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Ruckedtobits » July 20th, 2017, 10:55 pm

Hopefully no shoulder Op necessary for SO'B, or we would have heard more info by now.

Let's hope that he and J10 make a full recovery without surgery and return with full appetite for Leinster's assault on Europe and Pro14. In France, MontP have never had a pre-season like this one and Hinesy and Cotter are demanding a fierce level of commitment. Baxter has also issued similar edicts in Exeter. One tough Season ahead so we need all the big guns with real hunger to perform.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Ruckedtobits » July 20th, 2017, 10:55 pm

Hopefully no shoulder Op necessary for SO'B, or we would have heard more info by now.

Let's hope that he and J10 make a full recovery without surgery and return with full appetite for Leinster's assault on Europe and Pro14. In France, MontP have never had a pre-season like this one and Hinesy and Cotter are demanding a fierce level of commitment. Baxter has also issued similar edicts in Exeter. One tough Season ahead so we need all the big guns with real hunger to perform.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby paddyor » July 20th, 2017, 11:51 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:Hopefully no shoulder Op necessary for SO'B, or we would have heard more info by now.

Let's hope that he and J10 make a full recovery without surgery and return with full appetite for Leinster's assault on Europe and Pro14. In France, MontP have never had a pre-season like this one and Hinesy and Cotter are demanding a fierce level of commitment. Baxter has also issued similar edicts in Exeter. One tough Season ahead so we need all the big guns with real hunger to perform.

I saw on twitter him saying he wouldn't be at the Carlow Summer camp because he's on holiday. so fingers crossed.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby wixfjord » July 22nd, 2017, 12:05 pm

Brumbies out of Super Rugby, hopefully Fardy will be making his way north after a bit of a break.

Lowe's Chiefs playing today, but he's staying for NPC right?
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby cormac » July 22nd, 2017, 12:20 pm

wixfjord wrote:Brumbies out of Super Rugby, hopefully Fardy will be making his way north after a bit of a break.

Lowe's Chiefs playing today, but he's staying for NPC right?


Yep, Lowe won't be here until November. Fardy could still be selected for Australia in the Rugby Championship. Otherwise he should be available for the start of the season.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » July 22nd, 2017, 12:23 pm

cormac wrote:
wixfjord wrote:Brumbies out of Super Rugby, hopefully Fardy will be making his way north after a bit of a break.

Lowe's Chiefs playing today, but he's staying for NPC right?


Yep, Lowe won't be here until November. Fardy could still be selected for Australia in the Rugby Championship. Otherwise he should be available for the start of the season.


barring an injury crisis or slightly more likely Cheika telling a few other guys to f off by throwing furniture at them I'd say there's very little chance of Fardy playing the Rugby Championship
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby wixfjord » July 22nd, 2017, 12:25 pm

cormac wrote:
wixfjord wrote:Brumbies out of Super Rugby, hopefully Fardy will be making his way north after a bit of a break.

Lowe's Chiefs playing today, but he's staying for NPC right?


Yep, Lowe won't be here until November. Fardy could still be selected for Australia in the Rugby Championship. Otherwise he should be available for the start of the season.


Jaysus I'd say that's not going to happen.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby johng » July 22nd, 2017, 3:16 pm

wixfjord wrote:
cormac wrote:
wixfjord wrote:Brumbies out of Super Rugby, hopefully Fardy will be making his way north after a bit of a break.

Lowe's Chiefs playing today, but he's staying for NPC right?


Yep, Lowe won't be here until November. Fardy could still be selected for Australia in the Rugby Championship. Otherwise he should be available for the start of the season.


JaysusI'd say please tell me that's not going to happen.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby wixfjord » July 22nd, 2017, 3:20 pm

No still the former.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » July 26th, 2017, 1:24 pm

I wonder if the Ulster news will affect us much. Not saying this is how the coaches are thinking, but personally I'd have pencilled Joey in for more time at 15 and Ross Byrne for more time at ten. With Jackson being unavailable and Rob back, I could foresee a phone call from Joe telling us that we need to play Joey at ten.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » July 26th, 2017, 1:31 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I wonder if the Ulster news will affect us much. Not saying this is how the coaches are thinking, but personally I'd have pencilled Joey in for more time at 15 and Ross Byrne for more time at ten. With Jackson being unavailable and Rob back, I could foresee a phone call from Joe telling us that we need to play Joey at ten.


Could very well be right

I like us having a second playmaker at fullback but with the centres we are missing I like the extra attacking threat from 10
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Flash Gordon » July 26th, 2017, 1:56 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I wonder if the Ulster news will affect us much. Not saying this is how the coaches are thinking, but personally I'd have pencilled Joey in for more time at 15 and Ross Byrne for more time at ten. With Jackson being unavailable and Rob back, I could foresee a phone call from Joe telling us that we need to play Joey at ten.


Possibly alright. Joey's injured at the moment so the challenge to Ross is "show us and Joe that you're undropable".
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » July 26th, 2017, 2:10 pm

Flash Gordon wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I wonder if the Ulster news will affect us much. Not saying this is how the coaches are thinking, but personally I'd have pencilled Joey in for more time at 15 and Ross Byrne for more time at ten. With Jackson being unavailable and Rob back, I could foresee a phone call from Joe telling us that we need to play Joey at ten.


Possibly alright. Joey's injured at the moment so the challenge to Ross is "show us and Joe that you're undropable".


he was injured, not sure he is anymore.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby Dave Cahill » July 26th, 2017, 2:19 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I wonder if the Ulster news will affect us much. Not saying this is how the coaches are thinking, but personally I'd have pencilled Joey in for more time at 15 and Ross Byrne for more time at ten. With Jackson being unavailable and Rob back, I could foresee a phone call from Joe telling us that we need to play Joey at ten.


Could very well be right

I like us having a second playmaker at fullback but with the centres we are missing I like the extra attacking threat from 10



It doesn't work for us though. The way we play and the players we produce function well with orthodox halfbacks and not so well with the more freespirited types.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby artaneboy » July 26th, 2017, 6:32 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I wonder if the Ulster news will affect us much. Not saying this is how the coaches are thinking, but personally I'd have pencilled Joey in for more time at 15 and Ross Byrne for more time at ten. With Jackson being unavailable and Rob back, I could foresee a phone call from Joe telling us that we need to play Joey at ten.


Could very well be right

I like us having a second playmaker at fullback but with the centres we are missing I like the extra attacking threat from 10



It doesn't work for us though. The way we play and the players we produce function well with orthodox halfbacks and not so well with the more freespirited types.

Doesn't it? I don't think our backs cohort is without the capacity to adopt to differing styles of half back. Hard to say who we will be able to play in the centre at the moment; Fergus, Reid...?

But with Lowe joining us in November (?) we will hopefully have a bit more of that unorthodox factor in the back three.

Anyway, needs must- and I'm looking forward, slightly nervously, to what LEO and Girve decide to address our injuries and IRFU demands.


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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » July 26th, 2017, 6:48 pm

I think the centres we are missing for the start fo the season changes things

if we have a slow/non breaky 10 (Byrne),a non physical 12 (Reid), and a small 13 (ROL) thats hard to attack with/easy to defend against unless the forwards are winning the game all by themselves
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby wixfjord » July 26th, 2017, 6:59 pm

Carbery and Reid is a very interesting 10/12 combo. Very light, but it'd mean a lot of wide/wide attacking options and space for the likes of ROL and Byrne.

I do think the pack are going to have to win us some games at the start of the year though. It should be good enough to too. Pending having the Irish guys back straight away (which I think should be fine?) we could be looking at
Healy, Cronin, Bent, Fardy, Toner, Ruddock, VDF/Leavy, Conan/Heaslip with L McGrath at 9.

That won't start every game, but even with a few variations should be enough to dominate most sides in the league.
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Re: Leinster Senior Squad 2017/2018

Postby simonokeeffe » July 26th, 2017, 7:55 pm

wixfjord wrote:Carbery and Reid is a very interesting 10/12 combo. Very light, but it'd mean a lot of wide/wide attacking options and space for the likes of ROL and Byrne.

I do think the pack are going to have to win us some games at the start of the year though. It should be good enough to too. Pending having the Irish guys back straight away (which I think should be fine?) we could be looking at
Healy, Cronin, Bent, Fardy, Toner, Ruddock, VDF/Leavy, Conan/Heaslip with L McGrath at 9.

That won't start every game, but even with a few variations should be enough to dominate most sides in the league.


I think we might miss Toner and Heaslip at start of season due to PROJECTED gametime
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