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What nationality are the three non europeans registered under?mildlyinterested wrote:So, with Lowes imminent arrival, which of the 3 non-European's is dropped from the squad for pro 14 games due to the "only 2 non European players in a match day squad" rule?
Isa falls under kolpack agreement due to his fiji cap afaikDave Cahill wrote:What nationality are the three non europeans registered under?mildlyinterested wrote:So, with Lowes imminent arrival, which of the 3 non-European's is dropped from the squad for pro 14 games due to the "only 2 non European players in a match day squad" rule?
Leaving aside nationality, have any of the three become EU resident? Did Isa get it before he left - was he away long enough to lose it?
New Zealand isn't a party to the agreement that led to the Kolpak case. Having a cap for a country doesn't make one a national of that country.mildlyinterested wrote:
Isa falls under kolpack agreement afaik.
So then how has Leinster fielded Fardy, Nacewa & JGP in the same 23?Dave Cahill wrote:New Zealand isn't a party to the agreement that led to the Kolpak case. Having a cap for a country doesn't make one a national of that country.mildlyinterested wrote:
Isa falls under kolpack agreement afaik.
mildlyinterested wrote:So is there anyone with some knowledge of the situation?
South Africans and Pacific Islanders are considered European.. Australians and new Zealanders are not.Dundalk 1 wrote:mildlyinterested wrote:So is there anyone with some knowledge of the situation?
The rule states 2 non Europeans maximum but does not define what it means by European
Presumably after a player is eligible to play for the international team he counts as European
It may be similar as a designated project player
At a quick perusal of other Irish teams our 3 in 23 is a pretty low ratio
Gibson Park and Lowe are project players
This is from an Indo article around the time the IRFU were putting their NIE rules in placemildlyinterested wrote:South Africans and Pacific Islanders are considered European.. Australians and new Zealanders are not.Dundalk 1 wrote:mildlyinterested wrote:So is there anyone with some knowledge of the situation?
The rule states 2 non Europeans maximum but does not define what it means by European
Presumably after a player is eligible to play for the international team he counts as European
It may be similar as a designated project player
At a quick perusal of other Irish teams our 3 in 23 is a pretty low ratio
Gibson Park and Lowe are project players
JGP - NZer
Lowe - Nzer
Fardy - Ozzie
link?Dundalk 1 wrote:
This is from an Indo article around the time the IRFU were putting their NIE rules in place
Other EU cases, such as the recent Zambrano case, in which it was decided that an EU member state may not refuse the non-EU parents of a dependent child who is a citizen of, and resident in, an EU member state the right to live and work in that member state, should also be added to the mix. A number of foreign rugby superstars currently plying their trade on this island have Irish, and therefore, EU-citizen children. Leinster's Isa Nacewa, for example, whose contract expires this summer, falls into this category.
Maybe we know now why Fardy now has an EU citizen in the family
https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 13559.htmlmildlyinterested wrote:link?Dundalk 1 wrote:
This is from an Indo article around the time the IRFU were putting their NIE rules in place
Other EU cases, such as the recent Zambrano case, in which it was decided that an EU member state may not refuse the non-EU parents of a dependent child who is a citizen of, and resident in, an EU member state the right to live and work in that member state, should also be added to the mix. A number of foreign rugby superstars currently plying their trade on this island have Irish, and therefore, EU-citizen children. Leinster's Isa Nacewa, for example, whose contract expires this summer, falls into this category.
Maybe we know now why Fardy now has an EU citizen in the family
More importantly has anyone seen him pretending to play hurling yet?curates_egg wrote:He's been here since the weekend. Anyone seen a photo of him in Leinster kit yet?
A few weeks to bed in before we get to see him.
it's still a bit early for that.simonokeeffe wrote:More importantly has anyone seen him pretending to play hurling yet?curates_egg wrote:He's been here since the weekend. Anyone seen a photo of him in Leinster kit yet?
A few weeks to bed in before we get to see him.
simonokeeffe wrote:More importantly has anyone seen him pretending to play hurling yet?curates_egg wrote:He's been here since the weekend. Anyone seen a photo of him in Leinster kit yet?
A few weeks to bed in before we get to see him.
He is a project player, Maori caps have no effect.curates_egg wrote:simonokeeffe wrote:More importantly has anyone seen him pretending to play hurling yet?curates_egg wrote:He's been here since the weekend. Anyone seen a photo of him in Leinster kit yet?
A few weeks to bed in before we get to see him.
He's not a project player though, right? He has a few Maori caps.
Give that man a hurl!mildlyinterested wrote:He is a project player, Maori caps have no effect.curates_egg wrote:simonokeeffe wrote: More importantly has anyone seen him pretending to play hurling yet?
He's not a project player though, right? He has a few Maori caps.
