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Re: James Lowe signs for Leinster

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » January 4th, 2019, 4:48 pm

Laighin Break wrote:If the jumper isn't oblivious to what's around them, then Lowe shouldn't be oblivious either. Considering players don't have much hang time, the jump is always at the last second...
Maybe I look at it differently, playing football hurling & Aussie rules where the instinct would always be to jump when competing for a high ball, but I would think it's something a player just has to consider when chasing garryowens.


So you agree that Lowe wouldn't have much time to react yet think it's fair that he's done for not doing so? How is he supposed to know if/when Conway is going to jump? I agree with everything you've said if you're talking about a guy jumping from a standing start, but not when two players are running towards each other, there really is a huge difference between the two scenarios.

To follow your logic through, Lowe should just have hung back in which case Conway probably wouldn't have even needed to jump, how is that right? Why should Conway have all the rights? How does Lowe know that Conway will get there first given that he had a great chance of getting it too?
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Re: James Lowe signs for Leinster

Postby Dexter » January 4th, 2019, 5:51 pm

They should just be done with it and give a red card to the player who lands on his head. That'd put an end to all this jumping into the air and colliding with people nonsense.
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Re: James Lowe signs for Leinster

Postby Laighin Break » January 7th, 2019, 10:45 am

matt wrote:Correct me if I am wrong but I don’t think you get sent off playing football if you have a honest contest in the air irrespective of whether one player lands on his head or shoulder. Also if you jump for a high ball in soccer same applies.

I guess 'honest contest' is quite subjective. If a similar incident happened in football (though really unlikely) I'd say there could well be a red card, definitely a yellow at least. I don't think there are specific rules about how a player lands, but there often would be frees and cards when one player comes off badly from a contest - I've been booked myself for it, though maintain my innocence to this day :lol:

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:So you agree that Lowe wouldn't have much time to react yet think it's fair that he's done for not doing so? How is he supposed to know if/when Conway is going to jump? I agree with everything you've said if you're talking about a guy jumping from a standing start, but not when two players are running towards each other, there really is a huge difference between the two scenarios.

To follow your logic through, Lowe should just have hung back in which case Conway probably wouldn't have even needed to jump, how is that right? Why should Conway have all the rights? How does Lowe know that Conway will get there first given that he had a great chance of getting it too?


I agree Lowe wouldn't have much time to react and I agree that it wasn't intentional either. I just think he should know that the opposition player is likely to jump and also know what the punishment is if the other player jumps and he takes him out on the ground (the rules are reasonably clear on this). By my logic Lowe should have jumped, giving himself a better chance of competing for the ball and reducing the chance of being carded.
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