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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby Dave Cahill » June 8th, 2017, 1:51 pm

The Doc wrote:
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matt wrote:Exeter Montpellier & Glasgow very tough



No it isn't.


Poor Ospreys !!!


You know you're in a tough group when Sarries are a team with one of the smaller budgets!
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby R-Dog » June 8th, 2017, 1:56 pm

Hard to call which match goes to the Aviva. Probably Exeter as cant see Montpellier having any travelling support and Glasgow are already in our league.

Would it be an option tom keep all 3 in the RDS and move the Ulster or Counnaght (novelty could sell well to them) game to the Aviva instead
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby Dave Cahill » June 8th, 2017, 1:58 pm

R-Dog wrote:Hard to call which match goes to the Aviva. Probably Exeter as cant see Montpellier having any travelling support and Glasgow are already in our league.

Would it be an option tom keep all 3 in the RDS and move the Ulster or Counnaght (novelty could sell well to them) game to the Aviva instead

It'll be whichever is the december back to back fixture
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby brenno » June 8th, 2017, 1:59 pm

Laighin Break wrote:Not the worst


Maybe not the worst but not the best either. Will be a right catfight for the number 1 slot and I'd expect teams to take points off each other with a 4-2 win-loss possibly enough, bonus points will be crucial as second place in this group mightn't be enough. Son is off to Exeter doing a post-grad so grand excuse for a visit.

Munster should be reasonably happy with Castres no doubt giving up after they lose their first couple of games. Should defo qualify for QF. Ulster too can look to qualify though big improvement on this year needed.
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby footrush » June 8th, 2017, 2:00 pm

FLIP wrote:Exeter, Leinster, Montpellier, Glasgow

Looking forward to a trip to Exeter.

Had a fantastic time there the last time fine club great supporters !. Was hoping to draw them sick and tired of Coventry.
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby leinsterforever » June 8th, 2017, 2:01 pm

Tough draw, especially considering that Glasgow and Montpellier have excellent coaches lined up for next season. Rennie and Cotter are quality operators, although there'll probably be quite a big squad turnover at Montpellier, which might make things difficult for Cotter initially
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby simonokeeffe » June 8th, 2017, 2:02 pm

Have we ever gone to Glasgow full metal jacket? We always seem to send weakened sides there

Its a winnable group but low on chances of BPs. Me thinks an away quarter final beckons

Wasps Sarries Munster/Racing Toulon home qfs
Leinster Clermont Racing/Munster Bath/Scarlets away qfs

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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby The Doc » June 8th, 2017, 2:09 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:
R-Dog wrote:Hard to call which match goes to the Aviva. Probably Exeter as cant see Montpellier having any travelling support and Glasgow are already in our league.

Would it be an option tom keep all 3 in the RDS and move the Ulster or Counnaght (novelty could sell well to them) game to the Aviva instead

It'll be whichever is the december back to back fixture


I'd assume we'll try to have Exeter as the back to back December games - biggest draw of that lot. I would like to have Montpellier at home in the first two rounds and play them away in January (with Glasgow vie versa) - prefer to have the French team at home while they are still interested and play them away when they possibly have less interest
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby Dave Cahill » June 8th, 2017, 2:13 pm

That'd be the ideal alright
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby Dave Cahill » June 8th, 2017, 2:15 pm

It'll be interesting to see how Leinster-wannabe Donnacha Ryan goes on his return to Limerick with his second choice destination
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby molloyjh » June 8th, 2017, 2:17 pm

That is a difficult group. Montpellier have recruited well and will have Cotter coaching them next season. They'll be a tougher side than the one we faced this season. Exeter have proven over the last few years to be a tricky side too. Glasgow is probably our only chance at an away win. This group will be a case of teams taking points off each other and will be very interesting as a result. It could have been worse, but it could have been better too. Have we gotten an Italian team once in the last 20 years?

Starting to think getting drawn in Clermonts group might have been easier. That would have meant facing either Leicester or Bath from tier 3. They'd be easier than Montpellier.
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby FLIP » June 8th, 2017, 2:17 pm

footrush wrote:
FLIP wrote:Exeter, Leinster, Montpellier, Glasgow

Looking forward to a trip to Exeter.

Had a fantastic time there the last time fine club great supporters !. Was hoping to draw them sick and tired of Coventry.


Same here - one of the best away trips I've had. Granted that might be the copious Cider from the Old Fire House talking..
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby simonokeeffe » June 8th, 2017, 2:19 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:It'll be interesting to see how Leinster-wannabe Donnacha Ryan goes on his return to Limerick with his second choice destination


Hmmm might overshadow Racings assistant coach and who wants that
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby molloyjh » June 8th, 2017, 2:22 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:Have we ever gone to Glasgow full metal jacket? We always seem to send weakened sides there


HEC 2011-12?
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby Ruckedtobits » June 8th, 2017, 2:29 pm

molloyjh wrote:That is a difficult group. Montpellier have recruited well and will have Cotter coaching them next season. They'll be a tougher side than the one we faced this season. Exeter have proven over the last few years to be a tricky side too. Glasgow is probably our only chance at an away win. This group will be a case of teams taking points off each other and will be very interesting as a result. It could have been worse, but it could have been better too. Have we gotten an Italian team once in the last 20 years?

Starting to think getting drawn in Clermonts group might have been easier. That would have meant facing either Leicester or Bath from tier 3. They'd be easier than Montpellier.


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Probably three of the best and most successful Coaches in the Tournament. This group will be a real challenge with all four teams focussed on European success.
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby footrush » June 8th, 2017, 3:02 pm

molloyjh wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Have we ever gone to Glasgow full metal jacket? We always seem to send weakened sides there


HEC 2011-12?

Firhill 2012 mud bath in a soul less soccer pitch !.
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby Raydollard » June 8th, 2017, 5:52 pm

Would expect us to be favourites and to top that group. It's a good draw and we have chances to beat them all away.
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby kermischocolate » June 8th, 2017, 8:49 pm

As a Glasgow fan I think it's a very tough group. I think there's less drop off in the 4 teams than other groups.

In saying that our super duper new coach won't be arriving until well after the season has started so it could be another long, frustrating season next year.

Schedule the Dublin leg sensibly and if we're still in with a shout a decent number could travel.
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby footrush » June 8th, 2017, 10:25 pm

footrush wrote:
molloyjh wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Have we ever gone to Glasgow full metal jacket? We always seem to send weakened sides there


HEC 2011-12?

Firhill 2012 mud bath in a soul less soccer pitch !.

Loved Huenden the first time , beautiful spot !.
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Re: 2017 -2018 Champions Cup Seeding

Postby footrush » June 8th, 2017, 10:27 pm

HEC 2011-12?[/quote]
Firhill 2012 mud bath in a soul less soccer pitch !.[/quote]
Loved Hughenden the first time , beautiful spot !.[/quote] Sorry spelt it wrong would be nice to go back there , think the bar was closed because it was a Sunday , anyone else at that game , a few years ago now ?.
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