Academy 2017/2018

[Ruckedtobits]

Eoghan Clarke has looked comfortable at every level he's played at this year. As a former back-row he is an excellent tackler and carrier and also pinches ball at breakdown. If his throwing stays up to scratch, he could make Academy

[mildlyinterested]

Eoghan Clarke has looked comfortable at every level he's played at this year. As a former back-row he is an excellent tackler and carrier and also pinches ball at breakdown. If his throwing stays up to scratch, he could make Academy

former backrow and front row so not lost in the scrum either.. if he continues to play like he did last weekend, i'd expect him to make the academy also.

[mildlyinterested]

Prop
Oisin Heffernan(Year 3/Terenure) - bench for senior team
Vakh Abdaladze(Year 1/Clontarf) - injured.
Jack Aungier(Year 1/St. Marys) - Ireland u20s camp

Jordan Duggan(Naas) - Ireland u20s camp
Niall McEniff(St. Marys) - bench.
Joe Byrne(DUFC) - started at 3.

Hooker
Sean McNulty(Year 3/UCD) - started at 2.
Ronan Kelleher(Year 1/Lansdowne) - Ireland u20s camp

Eoghan Clarke(Wanderers) - Ireland u20s camp
Cathal Duff(Naas) - bench.

Lock
Oisin Dowling(Year 1/Lansdowne) - started at 5.

Cormac Daly(Clontarf) - Ireland u20s camp
Jack Dunne(DUFC) - Ireland u20s camp
JJ O'Dea(Old Wesley) - started at 4.

Backrow
Peadar Timmins(UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Josh Murphy(Year 3/UCD) - started at 6 for seniors.
Will Connors(Year 2/UCD) - bench for seniors.
Caelan Doris(Year 1/St. Marys) - injured.

Max Kearney(DUFC) - bench.
Ronan Foley(UCD) - started at 6.
Alan Francis(Blackrock) - started at 7.
Ronan Watters(St. Marys) - started at 7.

Scrumhalf
Charlie Rock(Year 3/Lansdowne) - bench.
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 1/Clontarf) - Ireland u20s camp

Patrick Patterson(UCD) - Ireland u20s camp
Sean Cribben(Old Belvo) - started at 9, 1 try.

Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(Year 1/UCD) - bench for seniors.

Conor Dean(St. Marys) - Ireland u20s camp
Harry Byrne(UCD) - Ireland u20s camp
Conor Kelly(Clontarf) - bench.

Outside Backs
Ian Fitzpatrick(Year 4/Lansdowne) - Ireland 7s camp.
Conor O'Brien(Year 2/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 2/UCD) - Ireland 7s camp.
Hugo Keenan(Year 2/UCD) - Ireland 7s camp
Terry Kennedy(Year 2/St. Marys) - Ireland 7s camp
Jordan Larmour(Year 2/St. Marys) - started at 15 for seniors.
Jack Kelly(Year 2/DUFC) - started at 15.
Gavin Mullin(Year 1/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 1/UCD) - Ireland u20s camp

Myles Carey(St. Marys) - started at 11.
Peter Maher(Old Belvo) - started at 11, 1 try.
Tommy O'Callaghan(Old Wesley) - started at 11.
Craig Kennedy(St. Marys) - started at 14.
Michael Silvester(DUFC) - Ireland u20s camp
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne) - Ireland u20s camp

[limecat]

Interesting stuff as always. One minor correction, Will Connors benched for seniors

[CiaranIrl]

Interesting stuff as always. One minor correction, Will Connors benched for seniors

Known as Porridge, according to a bizarre article yesterday.

[arsebiscuits1]

Interesting stuff as always. One minor correction, Will Connors benched for seniors

Known as Porridge, according to a bizarre article yesterday.

Probably stemming from a very humorous James Lowe post match interview

[mildlyinterested]

interview with Hugh O'Sullivan:

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 26150.html

[mildlyinterested]

Leinster players in Ireland u20 team, Eoghan Clarke(hooker), Patrick Patterson(scrumhalf) and Peter Sullivan(wing) dropped.

1. Jordan Duggan(Naas)
2. Ronan Kelleher(Lansdowne)
3. Jack Aungier(St. Marys)
4. Cormac Daly(Clontarf)
5. Jack Dunne(DUFC)
10. Harry Byrne(UCD/u19)
14. Tommy O'Brien(UCD)
15. Michael Silvester(DUFC)
19. Charlie Ryan(UCD/u19)
20. Ronan Foley(UCD)
21. Hugh O'Sullivan(Clontarf)
22. Conor Dean(St. Marys)

[mildlyinterested]

Kelleher, Aungier and O'Brien looked like the academy players they are at the weekend.
Hughie came on at fullback due to injuries.

[mildlyinterested]

Guessing the academy class:

Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Jack Dunne(2nd Row)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)

[A16]

Guessing the academy class:

Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Jack Dunne(2nd Row)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)

How do they decided whether to give players an academy place straight out of school, or whether to wait a year? Is it based on ability or any other factors?

[mildlyinterested]

Guessing the academy class:

Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Jack Dunne(2nd Row)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)

How do they decided whether to give players an academy place straight out of school, or whether to wait a year? Is it based on ability or any other factors?

pretty unclear tbh... for instance James Ryan/Max Deegan did a year in the sub academy... Andrew Porter did two.

ability combined with other factors.. such a age group, physical development, other contract offers, depth at position etc.

for instance Ryan Baird would be the most obvious forward to get a deal out of school, but a lot of depth in his position and they don't like rushing 2nd rows.

I could see it happening, but don't think it's likely at the moment.

[A16]

Guessing the academy class:

Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Jack Dunne(2nd Row)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)

How do they decided whether to give players an academy place straight out of school, or whether to wait a year? Is it based on ability or any other factors?

pretty unclear tbh... for instance James Ryan/Max Deegan did a year in the sub academy... Andrew Porter did two.

ability combined with other factors.. such a age group, physical development, other contract offers, depth at position etc.

for instance Ryan Baird would be the most obvious forward to get a deal out of school, but a lot of depth in his position and they don't like rushing 2nd rows.

I could see it happening, but don't think it's likely at the moment.

Interesting, I doubt it makes much difference but I had been wondering for a while what the process behind the selection was.

[Dave Cahill]

Also, they look pretty hard the personality of the player involved to see if he has the right mindset to be a professional rugby player

[paddyor]

Kelleher, Aungier and O'Brien looked like the academy players they are at the weekend.
Hughie came on at fullback due to injuries.

Bad? I missed the game.

[mildlyinterested]

Kelleher, Aungier and O'Brien looked like the academy players they are at the weekend.
Hughie came on at fullback due to injuries.

Bad? I missed the game.

no, they were among the better players.

game was a mess.

[the spoofer]

The sad thing is that the 20's can have an impact on lads career prospects good and bad. You end up with a clown like Tierney involved and this can have a detrimental effect on what lads get academy places.

Surely Romania need a new coach.

[mildlyinterested]

The sad thing is that the 20's can have an impact on lads career prospects good and bad. You end up with a clown like Tierney involved and this can have a detrimental effect on what lads get academy places.

Surely Romania need a new coach.

don't think tierney will have such a large effect on any of the leinster prospects.

[the spoofer]

The sad thing is that the 20's can have an impact on lads career prospects good and bad. You end up with a clown like Tierney involved and this can have a detrimental effect on what lads get academy places.

Surely Romania need a new coach.

don't think tierney will have such a large effect on any of the leinster prospects.

Yeah but the "marginal" players might well get a contract elsewhere if they show up with the 20's. JDVF didn't have a huge profile either at school or with the 20's but he obviously showed enough to get through.

[mildlyinterested]

The sad thing is that the 20's can have an impact on lads career prospects good and bad. You end up with a clown like Tierney involved and this can have a detrimental effect on what lads get academy places.

Surely Romania need a new coach.

don't think tierney will have such a large effect on any of the leinster prospects.

Yeah but the "marginal" players might well get a contract elsewhere if they show up with the 20's. JDVF didn't have a huge profile either at school or with the 20's but he obviously showed enough to get through.

JVDF was already in the academy before 20's level, he was a surprise inclusion along with Leavy. So obviously he had been identified by the academy as a player with potential.

If the academy system is working and for the large part it is... then players shouldn't be lost because Tierney is a poor defence coach for the 20s.. but ideally it shouldnt be a concern.