Academy 2017/2018
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
Eoghan Clarke has looked comfortable at every level he's played at this year. As a former back-row he is an excellent tackler and carrier and also pinches ball at breakdown. If his throwing stays up to scratch, he could make Academy
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
former backrow and front row so not lost in the scrum either.. if he continues to play like he did last weekend, i'd expect him to make the academy also.Ruckedtobits wrote:Eoghan Clarke has looked comfortable at every level he's played at this year. As a former back-row he is an excellent tackler and carrier and also pinches ball at breakdown. If his throwing stays up to scratch, he could make Academy
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
Prop
Oisin Heffernan(Year 3/Terenure) - bench for senior team
Vakh Abdaladze(Year 1/Clontarf) - injured.
Jack Aungier(Year 1/St. Marys) - Ireland u20s camp
Jordan Duggan(Naas) - Ireland u20s camp
Niall McEniff(St. Marys) - bench.
Joe Byrne(DUFC) - started at 3.
Hooker
Sean McNulty(Year 3/UCD) - started at 2.
Ronan Kelleher(Year 1/Lansdowne) - Ireland u20s camp
Eoghan Clarke(Wanderers) - Ireland u20s camp
Cathal Duff(Naas) - bench.
Lock
Oisin Dowling(Year 1/Lansdowne) - started at 5.
Cormac Daly(Clontarf) - Ireland u20s camp
Jack Dunne(DUFC) - Ireland u20s camp
JJ O'Dea(Old Wesley) - started at 4.
Backrow
Peadar Timmins(UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Josh Murphy(Year 3/UCD) - started at 6 for seniors.
Will Connors(Year 2/UCD) - bench for seniors.
Caelan Doris(Year 1/St. Marys) - injured.
Max Kearney(DUFC) - bench.
Ronan Foley(UCD) - started at 6.
Alan Francis(Blackrock) - started at 7.
Ronan Watters(St. Marys) - started at 7.
Scrumhalf
Charlie Rock(Year 3/Lansdowne) - bench.
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 1/Clontarf) - Ireland u20s camp
Patrick Patterson(UCD) - Ireland u20s camp
Sean Cribben(Old Belvo) - started at 9, 1 try.
Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(Year 1/UCD) - bench for seniors.
Conor Dean(St. Marys) - Ireland u20s camp
Harry Byrne(UCD) - Ireland u20s camp
Conor Kelly(Clontarf) - bench.
Outside Backs
Ian Fitzpatrick(Year 4/Lansdowne) - Ireland 7s camp.
Conor O'Brien(Year 2/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 2/UCD) - Ireland 7s camp.
Hugo Keenan(Year 2/UCD) - Ireland 7s camp
Terry Kennedy(Year 2/St. Marys) - Ireland 7s camp
Jordan Larmour(Year 2/St. Marys) - started at 15 for seniors.
Jack Kelly(Year 2/DUFC) - started at 15.
Gavin Mullin(Year 1/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 1/UCD) - Ireland u20s camp
Myles Carey(St. Marys) - started at 11.
Peter Maher(Old Belvo) - started at 11, 1 try.
Tommy O'Callaghan(Old Wesley) - started at 11.
Craig Kennedy(St. Marys) - started at 14.
Michael Silvester(DUFC) - Ireland u20s camp
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne) - Ireland u20s camp
Oisin Heffernan(Year 3/Terenure) - bench for senior team
Vakh Abdaladze(Year 1/Clontarf) - injured.
Jack Aungier(Year 1/St. Marys) - Ireland u20s camp
Jordan Duggan(Naas) - Ireland u20s camp
Niall McEniff(St. Marys) - bench.
Joe Byrne(DUFC) - started at 3.
Hooker
Sean McNulty(Year 3/UCD) - started at 2.
Ronan Kelleher(Year 1/Lansdowne) - Ireland u20s camp
Eoghan Clarke(Wanderers) - Ireland u20s camp
Cathal Duff(Naas) - bench.
Lock
Oisin Dowling(Year 1/Lansdowne) - started at 5.
Cormac Daly(Clontarf) - Ireland u20s camp
Jack Dunne(DUFC) - Ireland u20s camp
JJ O'Dea(Old Wesley) - started at 4.
Backrow
Peadar Timmins(UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Josh Murphy(Year 3/UCD) - started at 6 for seniors.
Will Connors(Year 2/UCD) - bench for seniors.
Caelan Doris(Year 1/St. Marys) - injured.
Max Kearney(DUFC) - bench.
Ronan Foley(UCD) - started at 6.
Alan Francis(Blackrock) - started at 7.
Ronan Watters(St. Marys) - started at 7.
Scrumhalf
Charlie Rock(Year 3/Lansdowne) - bench.
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 1/Clontarf) - Ireland u20s camp
Patrick Patterson(UCD) - Ireland u20s camp
Sean Cribben(Old Belvo) - started at 9, 1 try.
Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(Year 1/UCD) - bench for seniors.
Conor Dean(St. Marys) - Ireland u20s camp
Harry Byrne(UCD) - Ireland u20s camp
Conor Kelly(Clontarf) - bench.
Outside Backs
Ian Fitzpatrick(Year 4/Lansdowne) - Ireland 7s camp.
Conor O'Brien(Year 2/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 2/UCD) - Ireland 7s camp.
Hugo Keenan(Year 2/UCD) - Ireland 7s camp
Terry Kennedy(Year 2/St. Marys) - Ireland 7s camp
Jordan Larmour(Year 2/St. Marys) - started at 15 for seniors.
Jack Kelly(Year 2/DUFC) - started at 15.
Gavin Mullin(Year 1/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 1/UCD) - Ireland u20s camp
Myles Carey(St. Marys) - started at 11.
Peter Maher(Old Belvo) - started at 11, 1 try.
Tommy O'Callaghan(Old Wesley) - started at 11.
Craig Kennedy(St. Marys) - started at 14.
Michael Silvester(DUFC) - Ireland u20s camp
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne) - Ireland u20s camp
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
Interesting stuff as always. One minor correction, Will Connors benched for seniors
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
Known as Porridge, according to a bizarre article yesterday.limecat wrote:Interesting stuff as always. One minor correction, Will Connors benched for seniors
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Probably stemming from a very humorous James Lowe post match interviewCiaranIrl wrote:Known as Porridge, according to a bizarre article yesterday.limecat wrote:Interesting stuff as always. One minor correction, Will Connors benched for seniors
He's gotten awfully fond of that brick
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- Leo Cullen
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Leinster players in Ireland u20 team, Eoghan Clarke(hooker), Patrick Patterson(scrumhalf) and Peter Sullivan(wing) dropped.
1. Jordan Duggan(Naas)
2. Ronan Kelleher(Lansdowne)
3. Jack Aungier(St. Marys)
4. Cormac Daly(Clontarf)
5. Jack Dunne(DUFC)
10. Harry Byrne(UCD/u19)
14. Tommy O'Brien(UCD)
15. Michael Silvester(DUFC)
19. Charlie Ryan(UCD/u19)
20. Ronan Foley(UCD)
21. Hugh O'Sullivan(Clontarf)
22. Conor Dean(St. Marys)
1. Jordan Duggan(Naas)
2. Ronan Kelleher(Lansdowne)
3. Jack Aungier(St. Marys)
4. Cormac Daly(Clontarf)
5. Jack Dunne(DUFC)
10. Harry Byrne(UCD/u19)
14. Tommy O'Brien(UCD)
15. Michael Silvester(DUFC)
19. Charlie Ryan(UCD/u19)
20. Ronan Foley(UCD)
21. Hugh O'Sullivan(Clontarf)
22. Conor Dean(St. Marys)
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
Kelleher, Aungier and O'Brien looked like the academy players they are at the weekend.
Hughie came on at fullback due to injuries.
Hughie came on at fullback due to injuries.
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
Guessing the academy class:
Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Jack Dunne(2nd Row)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)
Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Jack Dunne(2nd Row)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)
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How do they decided whether to give players an academy place straight out of school, or whether to wait a year? Is it based on ability or any other factors?mildlyinterested wrote:Guessing the academy class:
Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Jack Dunne(2nd Row)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
pretty unclear tbh... for instance James Ryan/Max Deegan did a year in the sub academy... Andrew Porter did two.A16 wrote:How do they decided whether to give players an academy place straight out of school, or whether to wait a year? Is it based on ability or any other factors?mildlyinterested wrote:Guessing the academy class:
Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Jack Dunne(2nd Row)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)
ability combined with other factors.. such a age group, physical development, other contract offers, depth at position etc.
for instance Ryan Baird would be the most obvious forward to get a deal out of school, but a lot of depth in his position and they don't like rushing 2nd rows.
I could see it happening, but don't think it's likely at the moment.
Re: Academy 2017/2018
Interesting, I doubt it makes much difference but I had been wondering for a while what the process behind the selection was.mildlyinterested wrote:pretty unclear tbh... for instance James Ryan/Max Deegan did a year in the sub academy... Andrew Porter did two.A16 wrote:How do they decided whether to give players an academy place straight out of school, or whether to wait a year? Is it based on ability or any other factors?mildlyinterested wrote:Guessing the academy class:
Eoghan Clarke(Hooker)
Jack Dunne(2nd Row)
Cormac Daly(2nd Row)
Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf)
Harry Byrne(Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(Centre)
Michael Silvester(Back Three)
ability combined with other factors.. such a age group, physical development, other contract offers, depth at position etc.
for instance Ryan Baird would be the most obvious forward to get a deal out of school, but a lot of depth in his position and they don't like rushing 2nd rows.
I could see it happening, but don't think it's likely at the moment.
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
Also, they look pretty hard the personality of the player involved to see if he has the right mindset to be a professional rugby player
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
Bad? I missed the game.mildlyinterested wrote:Kelleher, Aungier and O'Brien looked like the academy players they are at the weekend.
Hughie came on at fullback due to injuries.
Ruddock's tackle stats consistently too low for me to be taken seriously as a Six Nations blindside..... Ruddock's defensive stats don't stack up. - All Blacks Nil, Jan 15th, 2014
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
England A 8 - 14 Ireland A, 25th Jan 2014
Ruddock(c) 19/2 Tackles
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- Leo Cullen
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Re: Academy 2017/2018
no, they were among the better players.paddyor wrote:Bad? I missed the game.mildlyinterested wrote:Kelleher, Aungier and O'Brien looked like the academy players they are at the weekend.
Hughie came on at fullback due to injuries.
game was a mess.
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The sad thing is that the 20's can have an impact on lads career prospects good and bad. You end up with a clown like Tierney involved and this can have a detrimental effect on what lads get academy places.
Surely Romania need a new coach.
Surely Romania need a new coach.
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- Leo Cullen
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don't think tierney will have such a large effect on any of the leinster prospects.the spoofer wrote:The sad thing is that the 20's can have an impact on lads career prospects good and bad. You end up with a clown like Tierney involved and this can have a detrimental effect on what lads get academy places.
Surely Romania need a new coach.
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Yeah but the "marginal" players might well get a contract elsewhere if they show up with the 20's. JDVF didn't have a huge profile either at school or with the 20's but he obviously showed enough to get through.mildlyinterested wrote:don't think tierney will have such a large effect on any of the leinster prospects.the spoofer wrote:The sad thing is that the 20's can have an impact on lads career prospects good and bad. You end up with a clown like Tierney involved and this can have a detrimental effect on what lads get academy places.
Surely Romania need a new coach.
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- Leo Cullen
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JVDF was already in the academy before 20's level, he was a surprise inclusion along with Leavy. So obviously he had been identified by the academy as a player with potential.the spoofer wrote:Yeah but the "marginal" players might well get a contract elsewhere if they show up with the 20's. JDVF didn't have a huge profile either at school or with the 20's but he obviously showed enough to get through.mildlyinterested wrote:don't think tierney will have such a large effect on any of the leinster prospects.the spoofer wrote:The sad thing is that the 20's can have an impact on lads career prospects good and bad. You end up with a clown like Tierney involved and this can have a detrimental effect on what lads get academy places.
Surely Romania need a new coach.
If the academy system is working and for the large part it is... then players shouldn't be lost because Tierney is a poor defence coach for the 20s.. but ideally it shouldnt be a concern.