Academy 2017/2018

[mildlyinterested]

Impressive enough. Most of them seem to be playing at their fighting weight except Ryan, O'Sullivan, Dean and Silvester. And all don't need a huge amount to go. Given they're still sub academy I'm pretty impressed. Obviously weight will only tell a fraction of their make up.

Tommy looks to have bulked up this year. I think he was in at about 82 last season. Injury layoff and full academy this year probably helping that.

Looking back over the names Aungier is very undersized for a tighthead. Will be interesting to see how this affects this scrum. He's got a reasonably bulky Jack Dunne behind him at least. But the French U20s are normally monsters

wouldn't say Aungier is undersized by Irish standards.

[arsebiscuits1]

Impressive enough. Most of them seem to be playing at their fighting weight except Ryan, O'Sullivan, Dean and Silvester. And all don't need a huge amount to go. Given they're still sub academy I'm pretty impressed. Obviously weight will only tell a fraction of their make up.

Tommy looks to have bulked up this year. I think he was in at about 82 last season. Injury layoff and full academy this year probably helping that.

Looking back over the names Aungier is very undersized for a tighthead. Will be interesting to see how this affects this scrum. He's got a reasonably bulky Jack Dunne behind him at least. But the French U20s are normally monsters

wouldn't say Aungier is undersized by Irish standards.

Probably not. I haven't seen much of him in the flesh. But I'd be more comfortable with a tighthead being 119-120. Especially against France

[mildlyinterested]

Impressive enough. Most of them seem to be playing at their fighting weight except Ryan, O'Sullivan, Dean and Silvester. And all don't need a huge amount to go. Given they're still sub academy I'm pretty impressed. Obviously weight will only tell a fraction of their make up.

Tommy looks to have bulked up this year. I think he was in at about 82 last season. Injury layoff and full academy this year probably helping that.

Looking back over the names Aungier is very undersized for a tighthead. Will be interesting to see how this affects this scrum. He's got a reasonably bulky Jack Dunne behind him at least. But the French U20s are normally monsters

wouldn't say Aungier is undersized by Irish standards.

Probably not. I haven't seen much of him in the flesh. But I'd be more comfortable with a tighthead being 119-120. Especially against France

french front row is only huge because of brennan(132kg) looking at the stats.

[mildlyinterested]

have to wonder if Kearney's limited height will be a barrier for him and the academy, I wonder if they would relook at moving him to hooker... probably not.

[CiaranIrl]

Tommy, O'Brien, Hugh O'Sullivan, Aungier & Kelleher all in the full academy, right?

I wonder how many of Silvester, P. Sullivan, Byrne, Duggan, Daly & Dunne will make it in after this. You would assume Byrne, maybe Silvester, one second row. Maybe that's it without big performances?

[mildlyinterested]

Tommy, O'Brien, Hugh O'Sullivan, Aungier & Kelleher all in the full academy, right?

I wonder how many of Silvester, P. Sullivan, Byrne, Duggan, Daly & Dunne will make it in after this. You would assume Byrne, maybe Silvester, one second row. Maybe that's it without big performances?

Yes.

Yeah, not far wrong.. off the top of my head, I'd say Silvester will, same for H Byrne. At least one second row, if not both.. as I'd rate Daly & Dunne over Dowling. The rest need big performances to force their way in.

[CiaranIrl]

Tommy, O'Brien, Hugh O'Sullivan, Aungier & Kelleher all in the full academy, right?

I wonder how many of Silvester, P. Sullivan, Byrne, Duggan, Daly & Dunne will make it in after this. You would assume Byrne, maybe Silvester, one second row. Maybe that's it without big performances?

Yes.

Yeah, not far wrong.. off the top of my head, I'd say Silvester will, same for H Byrne. At least one second row, if not both.. as I'd rate Daly & Dunne over Dowling. The rest need big performances to force their way in.

Second rows could be competing for one place, which is rough. If one gets away, we could have another Tadhg Beirne on our hands.

[mildlyinterested]

Tommy, O'Brien, Hugh O'Sullivan, Aungier & Kelleher all in the full academy, right?

I wonder how many of Silvester, P. Sullivan, Byrne, Duggan, Daly & Dunne will make it in after this. You would assume Byrne, maybe Silvester, one second row. Maybe that's it without big performances?

Yes.

Yeah, not far wrong.. off the top of my head, I'd say Silvester will, same for H Byrne. At least one second row, if not both.. as I'd rate Daly & Dunne over Dowling. The rest need big performances to force their way in.

Second rows could be competing for one place, which is rough. If one gets away, we could have another Tadhg Beirne on our hands.

room for two in my opinion, wait and see how they perform. Both have serious potential.

[mildlyinterested]

Prop
Oisin Heffernan(Year 3/Terenure) - didn't play this weekend.
Vakh Abdaladze(Year 1/Clontarf) - injured.
Jack Aungier(Year 1/St. Marys) - started at 3 for 20's.

Jordan Duggan(Naas) - started at 1 for u20's.
Joe Byrne(DUFC) -started at 3.

Hooker
Sean McNulty(Year 3/UCD) - started at 2.
Ronan Kelleher(Year 1/Lansdowne) - started at 2 for 20's.

Dan Sheehan(DUFC) - didn't play this weekend.
Eoghan Clarke(Wanderers) - unknown.
Cathal Duff(Naas) - started at 2.
Declan Adamson(Clontarf) - bench

Lock
Oisin Dowling(Year 1/Lansdowne) -started at 5.

Cormac Daly(Clontarf) - started at 4 for 20's.
Jack Dunne(DUFC) - started at 5 for 20's.

Backrow
Peadar Timmins(UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Josh Murphy(Year 3/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Will Connors(Year 2/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Caelan Doris(Year 1/St. Marys) - injured.

JJ O'Dea(Old Wesley) - started at 6, 1 try.
Ronan Foley(UCD) - started at 6.
Alan Francis(Blackrock) - started at 7.
Ronan Watters(St. Marys) - started at 7, 1 try.

Scrumhalf
Charlie Rock(Year 3/Lansdowne) - started at 9.
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 1/Clontarf) - bench for u20's.

Patrick Patterson(UCD) - started at 9, 1 try.

Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(Year 1/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.

Conor Dean(St. Marys) - didn't play this weekend.
Harry Byrne(UCD) - started at 10 for u20's, 2 cons, 1 pen.
Conor Kelly(Clontarf) - bench.

Outside Backs
Ian Fitzpatrick(Year 4/Lansdowne) - didn't play this weekend.
Conor O'Brien(Year 2/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 2/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Hugo Keenan(Year 2/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Terry Kennedy(Year 2/St. Marys) - didn't play this weekend.
Jordan Larmour(Year 2/St. Marys) - didn't play this weekend.
Jack Kelly(Year 2/DUFC) - didn't play this weekend.
Gavin Mullin(Year 1/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 1/UCD) - started at 13 for u20's.

Myles Carey(St. Marys) - started at 11.
Tommy O'Callaghan(Old Wesley) - started at 14.
Craig Kennedy(St. Marys) - started at 14.
James Moriarty(DUFC) - started at 15.
Sean O'Brien(Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Michael Silvester(DUFC) - started at 15 for u20's.
Peter Sullivan(Lansdowne) - started at 14 for u20's.

[mildlyinterested]

For the 20's I was pretty impressed by Harry Byrne at 10, who was Irelands youngest player on the day.
Front 5 went well in the set piece and loose, especially Aungier, Dunne and Kelleher.

[arsebiscuits1]

For the 20's I was pretty impressed by Harry Byrne at 10, who was Irelands youngest player on the day.
Front 5 went well in the set piece and loose, especially Aungier, Dunne and Kelleher.

Harry Byrne attacked the line in an almost complete opposite way to Ross ha. It was seriously impressive.

Other than that they're both quite similar. Very natural passers and place kickers. Effortless technique.

Aungier stood up very well too. I was impressed.

[mildlyinterested]

Leinster players in Ireland under-20 team:

15. Michael Silvester (Dublin University/Leinster) (5)
14. Peter Sullivan (Lansdowne FC/Leinster) (1)
13. Tommy O'Brien (UCD RFC/Leinster) (6) Captain
10. Harry Byrne (UCD RFC/Leinster) (1)
9. Hugh O'Sullivan (Clontarf FC/Leinster) (1)
1. Jordan Duggan (Naas/Leinster) (5)
2. Ronan Kelleher (UCD/ Leinster) (9)
3. Jack Aungier (St. Mary's College RFC/Leinster) (1)
4. Cormac Daly (Clontarf FC/Leinster) (1)
5. Jack Dunne (Dublin University FC/Leinster) (1)
16. Eoghan Clarke (Wanderers FC/Leinster) (0)
19. Charlie Ryan (UCD RFC/Leinster) (0)
20. Ronan Foley (UCD RFC/Leinster) (0)
21. Paddy Patterson (UCD RFC/Leinster) (0)
22. Conor Dean (St.Mary's College RFC/Leinster) (5)

[mildlyinterested]

A lot of players to watch from a Leinster point of view, 4 players already in academy and quite a few hopefuls.

Of particular interest to me is Clarke at hooker and Patterson at scrumhalf.

[mildlyinterested]

Interview with Harry Byrne:

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/rug ... 66870.html

[mildlyinterested]

Max Kearney, Oisin Dowling, JJ O'Dea, Jack Kelly all in training against Ireland today

[the spoofer]

A lot of players to watch from a Leinster point of view, 4 players already in academy and quite a few hopefuls.

Of particular interest to me is Clarke at hooker and Patterson at scrumhalf.

I'm looking forward to seeing O'Sullivan at 9. Stewart has improved since last year but I'm not convinced.

[mildlyinterested]

A lot of players to watch from a Leinster point of view, 4 players already in academy and quite a few hopefuls.

Of particular interest to me is Clarke at hooker and Patterson at scrumhalf.

I'm looking forward to seeing O'Sullivan at 9. Stewart has improved since last year but I'm not convinced.

agreed, have high hopes for him.

[mildlyinterested]

thought Eoghan Clarke was pretty good at hooker at the weekend, could push for an academy place if he keeps it up.

Jordan Duggan looks a good player but not on the level of recent loosehead props that have been given leinster academy places.

Second rows Jack Dunne/Cormac Daly both look good enough to get an academy place.

[mildlyinterested]

Jack Kelly started at 15 for Trinity at the weekend and scored a try.

Sub academy openside Max Kearney started at 7 and sub academy prop Joe Byrne started at 3.

[mildlyinterested]

Shane Horgan cup yesterday

South East have won 3 of 3 and defeated North East 22-21 yesterday in Ashbourne.

North Midlands defeated Midlands 7-0 yesterday also.

South East P:3 W:3 L:0
Midlands P:3 W:2 L:1
North East P:4 W:2 L:2
North Midlands P:3 W:1 L:2
Metro P:3 W:0 L:3