Academy 2017/2018

A forum for true blue Leinster supporters to talk about and support their team

Moderator: moderators

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby Ruckedtobits » December 12th, 2017, 3:00 pm

cormac wrote:Abdaladze went off after 12 minutes of the Bristol game. Assume he must have picked up an injury.


Limerick Leader says tha Loughman started for Munster A v Bedford on Friday night.

Anybody know whether this is an emergency player loan or what?
Ruckedtobits
Malcolm O'Kelly
 
Posts: 3646
Joined: April 10th, 2011, 10:23 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby cormac » December 12th, 2017, 3:15 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:
cormac wrote:Abdaladze went off after 12 minutes of the Bristol game. Assume he must have picked up an injury.


Limerick Leader says tha Loughman started for Munster A v Bedford on Friday night.

Anybody know whether this is an emergency player loan or what?


3-month loan. Bit surprised he's allowed to play for them in the B&I as he'd already played for us in the comp this season.
Look out Itchy, he's Irish
User avatar
cormac
Rob Kearney
 
Posts: 5130
Joined: May 24th, 2006, 2:05 pm

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby neiliog93 » December 12th, 2017, 6:06 pm

It's slightly concerning that with our surfeit of young tightheads our two looseheads in the sub-academy are now also playing tighthead. Hopefully it's not a permanent thing.

Great report as always btw.
"This is breathless stuff.....it's on again. Contepomi out to Hickie,D'Arcy,Hickie.......................HICKIE FOR THE CORNER! THAT IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
User avatar
neiliog93
Malcolm O'Kelly
 
Posts: 3593
Joined: April 12th, 2008, 11:42 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby dropkick » December 12th, 2017, 7:54 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:
cormac wrote:Abdaladze went off after 12 minutes of the Bristol game. Assume he must have picked up an injury.


Limerick Leader says tha Loughman started for Munster A v Bedford on Friday night.

Anybody know whether this is an emergency player loan or what?



3 month loan deal I think.
User avatar
dropkick
Mullet
 
Posts: 1377
Joined: January 2nd, 2007, 1:27 am
Location: Cork

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby leinsterforever » December 13th, 2017, 12:08 am

dropkick wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:
cormac wrote:Abdaladze went off after 12 minutes of the Bristol game. Assume he must have picked up an injury.


Limerick Leader says tha Loughman started for Munster A v Bedford on Friday night.

Anybody know whether this is an emergency player loan or what?



3 month loan deal I think.


I'd imagine he's either a medical joker to cover for Cronin and O'Connor or the coaches aren't too impressed with Parker and want to see whether Loughman would be a better bet to invest in
leinsterforever
Enlightened
 
Posts: 899
Joined: March 18th, 2015, 2:20 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby CiaranIrl » December 13th, 2017, 8:50 am

leinsterforever wrote:
I'd imagine he's either a medical joker to cover for Cronin and O'Connor or the coaches aren't too impressed with Parker and want to see whether Loughman would be a better bet to invest in


I'm surprised that the SARU allowed Munster to sign a non South African medical joker to be honest. Strange times.
“As you all know first prize is a Cadillac El Dorado. Anyone wanna see second prize? Second prize is a set of steak knives. Third prize is you're fired.”
User avatar
CiaranIrl
Malcolm O'Kelly
 
Posts: 3184
Joined: April 27th, 2009, 11:23 am
Location: Dun Laoghaire

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 13th, 2017, 11:22 am

neiliog93 wrote:It's slightly concerning that with our surfeit of young tightheads our two looseheads in the sub-academy are now also playing tighthead. Hopefully it's not a permanent thing.

Great report as always btw.


TBh I can't see Duggan getting an academy position at the moment, while Byrne is more of a tighthead than a loosehead.

Very good options at loosehead coming through though at under-19 level with Niall McEniff and Daragh Bolger.
Last edited by mildlyinterested on December 13th, 2017, 11:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 13th, 2017, 11:22 am

cormac wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:
cormac wrote:Abdaladze went off after 12 minutes of the Bristol game. Assume he must have picked up an injury.


Limerick Leader says tha Loughman started for Munster A v Bedford on Friday night.

Anybody know whether this is an emergency player loan or what?


3-month loan. Bit surprised he's allowed to play for them in the B&I as he'd already played for us in the comp this season.


apparently they had to get an exemption for him to play.
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 13th, 2017, 11:24 am

leinsterforever wrote:I'd imagine he's either a medical joker to cover for Cronin and O'Connor or the coaches aren't too impressed with Parker and want to see whether Loughman would be a better bet to invest in


I'd say both, they moved Scott to LH to cover for Cronin/O'Connor and Parker has made almost no impact since arriving.

Be interesting to see how it goes for Loughman, I was under the assumption they were moving him back to loosehead in order to prepare him to replace Dooley who would inevitably be leaving next season, not i'm not so sure.
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 14th, 2017, 2:48 pm

Michael Silvester has 7 tried so far for Trinity this season in 1A.
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 14th, 2017, 4:31 pm

Leinster Sub Academy update:

Joe Byrne(Prop/DUFC/Blackrock) - starting regularly in AIL
Jordan Duggan(Prop/Naas/Newbridge) - starting regularly in AIL
Niall McEniff(Prop/St. Marys/St. Marys)(u19) - Marys u20's
Aziz Naser(Prop/Suttonians RFC)(u19) - ?

Eoghan Clarke(Hooker/Wanderers/CBC Monkstown) - starting regularly in AIL
Dan Sheehan(Hooker/DUFC/Clongowes) - playing regularly in AIL
Richie Bergin(Hooker/UCD/St. Marys)(u19) - mostly UCD u20, but debuted in AIL

Cormac Daly(Lock/Clontarf/North Kildare RFC) - starting regularly in AIL
Jack Dunne(Lock/DUFC/ST. Michaels) - starting regularly in AIL
JJ O'Dea(Lock/Old Wesley/Navan RFC) - starting regularly in AIL
Daragh Murphy(Lock/Lansdowne RFC)(u19) - Lansdowne u20
Charlie Ryan(Lock/UCD/Blackrock)(u19) - injured, yet to play.

Richard Dunne(Backrow/DUFC/Blackrock) - starting regularly in AIL
Max Kearney(Backrow/DUFC/Belvedere) - DUFC u20
Cian Reilly(Backrow/UCD/Blackrock) - mostly UCD u20, but debuted in AIL
Reuben Pim(Backrow/DUFC/Kilkenny)(u19) - mostly DUFC u20, but debuted in AIL
Ronan Watters(Backrow/St. Marys/St. Marys)(u19) - mostly Marys u20, but debuted in AIL

Patrick Patterson(Scrumhalf/UCD/Blackrock) - UCD u20
James Kenny(Scrumhalf/Lansdowne/Gonzaga) - injured, yet to play

Conor Dean(Outhalf/St. Marys/Blackrock) - starting regularly in AIL
Harry Byrne(Outhalf/UCD/St. Michaels)(u19) - starting regularly in AIL
Conor Kelly(Outhalf/Clontarf/Roscrea)(u19) - mostly Clontarf u20, but debuted in AIL
Peter Hastie(Outhalf/Lansdowne/Wicklow RFC) - Lansdowne u20

Michael Silvester(Outside Back/DUFC/Clongowes) - starting regularly in AIL
Sean O'Brien(Outside Back/Clontarf/Mullingar RFC) - starting regularly in AIL
Myles Carey(Outside Back/St. Marys/St Marys) - starting regularly in AIL
Tom Roche(Outside Back/Lansdowne/Blackrock) - mostly Lansdowne u20, but debuted in AIL
James Moriarty(Outside Back/DUFC/Blackrock) - mostly DUFC u20, but debuted in AIL
Peter Maher(Outside Back/Old Belvo/Belvedere) - injured mostly, but debuted in AIL.
Conor Dunne(Outside Back/Clontarf/Tullamore RFC) - Clontarf u20
Sean Galvin(Outside Back/Lansdowne/Gonzaga) - Lansdowne u20
Peter Sullivan(Outside Back/Lansdowne/St. Andrews) - Lansdowne u20
Rob Russell(Outside Back/DUFC)(u19) - DUFC u20
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 18th, 2017, 1:50 pm

Prop
Oisin Heffernan(Year 3/Terenure) - injured.
Vakh Abdaladze(Year 1/Clontarf) - injured.
Jack Aungier(Year 1/St. Marys) - bench A team.

Hooker
Sean McNulty(Year 3/UCD)
Ronan Kelleher(Year 1/Lansdowne) - bench A team.

Lock
Oisin Dowling(Year 1/Lansdowne) - bench A team.

Backrow
Josh Murphy(Year 3/UCD) - started at 6 for A's.
Will Connors(Year 2/UCD) - started at 7 for A's.
Caelan Doris(Year 1/St. Marys) - bench A team.

Scrumhalf
Charlie Rock(Year 3/Lansdowne) - bench A team.
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 1/Clontarf)

Outhalf
Conor Dean(St. Marys) - bench A team.

Outside Backs
Ian Fitzpatrick(Year 4/Lansdowne)
Conor O'Brien(Year 2/Clontarf) - started at 12 for A's, 1 try.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 2/UCD) - injured.
Hugo Keenan(Year 2/UCD) - started at 14 for A's.
Terry Kennedy(Year 2/St. Marys)
Jordan Larmour(Year 2/St. Marys) - bench senior.
Jack Kelly(Year 2/DUFC) - bench A team.
Ciaran Frawley(Year 1/UCD) - started at 15 for A's.
Gavin Mullin(Year 1/UCD) - started at 13 for A's.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 1/UCD) - started at 11 for A's, 1 try.
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 18th, 2017, 2:48 pm

Leinster Academy Update:

Prop
Oisin Heffernan(22) - currently injured, regular at TH for Terenure.. appears to have fallen behind Vakh Abdaladze and Jeremy Loughman at TH Prop. Trending: Down
Jeremy Loughman(22) - currently with Munster on 3 month deal, fell behind Vakh Abdaladze at TH Prop before move. Has played TH and LH this season for UCD. Trending: Down
Vakh Abdaladze(21) - made 1st team debut recently after bypassing both Heffernan and Loughman at TH prop. Key player for Clontarf covering both LH and TH prop. Trending: Up
Jack Aungier(19) - made A team debut at weekend off the bench, has featured mostly for St. Marys this season off the bench. Trending: Even

Hooker
Sean McNulty(22)
- UCD captain, appears to have fallen behind Ronan Kelleher at hooker. Trending: Down
Ronan Kelleher(19) - appears to have bypassed McNulty at Hooker,, made his A team debut this season. Debuted for Lansdowne this season also. Trending: Up

2nd Row
Oisin Dowling(20) - injury disrupted season to date, looks to have bulked up a bit. Trending: Even

Backrow
Josh Murphy(22) - made 1st team debut, has played both 6 and 4 for A team this season. Regular for UCD when available. Trending: Up
Will Connors(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with UCD. Trending: Even
Caelan Doris(19) - involved with 1st team squads at start of the season, looks set to captain Ireland u20. Trending: Up

Scrumhalf
Charlie Rock(22) - regular for Lansdowne and A team. Trending: Even
Hugh O'Sullivan(19) - made A team debut as a 9 but also as cover for 15. made AIL debut for Clontarf also. Trending: Even

Outhalf(no outhalves in full academy)
Conor Dean(19) - recovered from injury and has played both A team rugby and AIL for St. Marys since returning. Early favourite to be 1st choice 10 for Ireland u20. Trending: Even
Harry Byrne(18) - made UCD and AIL debut this season at 18, appears to be 1st choice 10 at UCD. Could jump older players at Ireland u20 given progress. Trending: Up

Center
Conor O'Brien(21) - made 1st team debut, has stayed healthy which was a problem last season. Trending: Up
Jimmy O'Brien(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with UCD. Currently injured. Trending: Even
Gavin Mullin(20) - after returning from injury made A team debut. Trending: Even

Back Three
Ian Fitzpatrick(23) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with Lansdowne. Appears to have been bypassed by several younger players. Trending: Down
Hugo Keenan(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with UCD. Trending: Even
Terry Kennedy(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with St. Marys. Appears to have been bypassed by several younger players. Trending: Down
Jordan Larmour(20) - made 1st team debut and european debut and has impressed. Trending: Up
Jack Kelly(20) - after returning from injury, seems to be focused on playing wing at the moment. Trending: Even
Ciaran Frawley(20) - started season playing 10 for UCD, but has moved to fullback for UCD and A team. Trending: Even
Tommy O'Brien(19) - seems to be focused on playing wing since returning from injury. Trending: Even
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby Peg Leg » December 18th, 2017, 3:34 pm

Thanks MI. What happened Vakh?
"It was Mrs O'Leary's cow"
Daniel Sullivan
User avatar
Peg Leg
Devin Toner
 
Posts: 8777
Joined: February 1st, 2010, 6:08 pm
Location: Procrastinasia

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby Ruckedtobits » December 18th, 2017, 3:52 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Leinster Academy Update:

Prop
Oisin Heffernan(22) - currently injured, regular at TH for Terenure.. appears to have fallen behind Vakh Abdaladze and Jeremy Loughman at TH Prop. Trending: Down
Jeremy Loughman(22) - currently with Munster on 3 month deal, fell behind Vakh Abdaladze at TH Prop before move. Has played TH and LH this season for UCD. Trending: Down
Vakh Abdaladze(21) - made 1st team debut recently after bypassing both Heffernan and Loughman at TH prop. Key player for Clontarf covering both LH and TH prop. Trending: Up
Jack Aungier(19) - made A team debut at weekend off the bench, has featured mostly for St. Marys this season off the bench. Trending: Even

Hooker
Sean McNulty(22)
- UCD captain, appears to have fallen behind Ronan Kelleher at hooker. Trending: Down
Ronan Kelleher(19) - appears to have bypassed McNulty at Hooker,, made his A team debut this season. Debuted for Lansdowne this season also. Trending: Up

2nd Row
Oisin Dowling(20) - injury disrupted season to date, looks to have bulked up a bit. Trending: Even

Backrow
Josh Murphy(22) - made 1st team debut, has played both 6 and 4 for A team this season. Regular for UCD when available. Trending: Up
Will Connors(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with UCD. Trending: Even
Caelan Doris(19) - involved with 1st team squads at start of the season, looks set to captain Ireland u20. Trending: Up

Scrumhalf
Charlie Rock(22) - regular for Lansdowne and A team. Trending: Even
Hugh O'Sullivan(19) - made A team debut as a 9 but also as cover for 15. made AIL debut for Clontarf also. Trending: Even

Outhalf(no outhalves in full academy)
Conor Dean(19) - recovered from injury and has played both A team rugby and AIL for St. Marys since returning. Early favourite to be 1st choice 10 for Ireland u20. Trending: Even
Harry Byrne(18) - made UCD and AIL debut this season at 18, appears to be 1st choice 10 at UCD. Could jump older players at Ireland u20 given progress. Trending: Up

Center
Conor O'Brien(21) - made 1st team debut, has stayed healthy which was a problem last season. Trending: Up
Jimmy O'Brien(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with UCD. Currently injured. Trending: Even
Gavin Mullin(20) - after returning from injury made A team debut. Trending: Even

Back Three
Ian Fitzpatrick(23) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with Lansdowne. Appears to have been bypassed by several younger players. Trending: Down
Hugo Keenan(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with UCD. Trending: Even
Terry Kennedy(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with St. Marys. Appears to have been bypassed by several younger players. Trending: Down
Jordan Larmour(20) - made 1st team debut and european debut and has impressed. Trending: Up
Jack Kelly(20) - after returning from injury, seems to be focused on playing wing at the moment. Trending: Even
Ciaran Frawley(20) - started season playing 10 for UCD, but has moved to fullback for UCD and A team. Trending: Even
Tommy O'Brien(19) - seems to be focused on playing wing since returning from injury. Trending: Even


Really interesting combination of facts and opinion.

FWIW, IMO:
Connors - Up; O'Sullivan - Up; Mullin - Up; Jimmy O'Brien - Up.

All based on direct observation over past month. Harry Byrne would be, even, based on last fortnight. Jack Kelly would be down, based on A cameo last Friday.
Ruckedtobits
Malcolm O'Kelly
 
Posts: 3646
Joined: April 10th, 2011, 10:23 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 18th, 2017, 4:12 pm

Peg Leg wrote:Thanks MI. What happened Vakh?


Not sure what the injury, just that he went off early in A game last week.
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 18th, 2017, 4:15 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:Leinster Academy Update:

Prop
Oisin Heffernan(22) - currently injured, regular at TH for Terenure.. appears to have fallen behind Vakh Abdaladze and Jeremy Loughman at TH Prop. Trending: Down
Jeremy Loughman(22) - currently with Munster on 3 month deal, fell behind Vakh Abdaladze at TH Prop before move. Has played TH and LH this season for UCD. Trending: Down
Vakh Abdaladze(21) - made 1st team debut recently after bypassing both Heffernan and Loughman at TH prop. Key player for Clontarf covering both LH and TH prop. Trending: Up
Jack Aungier(19) - made A team debut at weekend off the bench, has featured mostly for St. Marys this season off the bench. Trending: Even

Hooker
Sean McNulty(22)
- UCD captain, appears to have fallen behind Ronan Kelleher at hooker. Trending: Down
Ronan Kelleher(19) - appears to have bypassed McNulty at Hooker,, made his A team debut this season. Debuted for Lansdowne this season also. Trending: Up

2nd Row
Oisin Dowling(20) - injury disrupted season to date, looks to have bulked up a bit. Trending: Even

Backrow
Josh Murphy(22) - made 1st team debut, has played both 6 and 4 for A team this season. Regular for UCD when available. Trending: Up
Will Connors(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with UCD. Trending: Even
Caelan Doris(19) - involved with 1st team squads at start of the season, looks set to captain Ireland u20. Trending: Up

Scrumhalf
Charlie Rock(22) - regular for Lansdowne and A team. Trending: Even
Hugh O'Sullivan(19) - made A team debut as a 9 but also as cover for 15. made AIL debut for Clontarf also. Trending: Even

Outhalf(no outhalves in full academy)
Conor Dean(19) - recovered from injury and has played both A team rugby and AIL for St. Marys since returning. Early favourite to be 1st choice 10 for Ireland u20. Trending: Even
Harry Byrne(18) - made UCD and AIL debut this season at 18, appears to be 1st choice 10 at UCD. Could jump older players at Ireland u20 given progress. Trending: Up

Center
Conor O'Brien(21) - made 1st team debut, has stayed healthy which was a problem last season. Trending: Up
Jimmy O'Brien(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with UCD. Currently injured. Trending: Even
Gavin Mullin(20) - after returning from injury made A team debut. Trending: Even

Back Three
Ian Fitzpatrick(23) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with Lansdowne. Appears to have been bypassed by several younger players. Trending: Down
Hugo Keenan(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with UCD. Trending: Even
Terry Kennedy(21) - heavily involved with Ireland 7's, which has curtailed action with St. Marys. Appears to have been bypassed by several younger players. Trending: Down
Jordan Larmour(20) - made 1st team debut and european debut and has impressed. Trending: Up
Jack Kelly(20) - after returning from injury, seems to be focused on playing wing at the moment. Trending: Even
Ciaran Frawley(20) - started season playing 10 for UCD, but has moved to fullback for UCD and A team. Trending: Even
Tommy O'Brien(19) - seems to be focused on playing wing since returning from injury. Trending: Even


Really interesting combination of facts and opinion.

FWIW, IMO:
Connors - Up; O'Sullivan - Up; Mullin - Up; Jimmy O'Brien - Up.

All based on direct observation over past month. Harry Byrne would be, even, based on last fortnight. Jack Kelly would be down, based on A cameo last Friday.


what's happened in last fortnight for Byrne?
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby cormac » December 18th, 2017, 4:29 pm

Was impressed from what I saw of Connors last Friday. Carried very well, made his tackles and forced a couple of turnovers.
Look out Itchy, he's Irish
User avatar
cormac
Rob Kearney
 
Posts: 5130
Joined: May 24th, 2006, 2:05 pm

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 18th, 2017, 4:37 pm

cormac wrote:Was impressed from what I saw of Connors last Friday. Carried very well, made his tackles and forced a couple of turnovers.


Yeah, he'd be closer to up then down.. if I had to make a choice.
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

Re: Academy 2017/2018

Postby mildlyinterested » December 19th, 2017, 10:46 am

Leinster A/Development play Ireland u20 this thursday in Donnybrook.
mildlyinterested
Cian Healy
 
Posts: 2284
Joined: April 19th, 2017, 9:56 am

PreviousNext

Return to Leinster Addicts

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Avenger, SemrushBot [Bot] and 6 guests