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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby CiaranIrl » January 28th, 2019, 3:38 pm

I have it on very good authority that he isn't being offered a contract extension (aka IRFU won't let us offer a new deal).
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby Peg Leg » January 28th, 2019, 3:47 pm

WTF, Noel "the brick wall" Reid is apparently leaving and now this...
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby johng » January 28th, 2019, 3:52 pm

If true. That's not great from the IRFU. We donate both of the current starting 2nd rows to Ireland. Surely we deserve a bit of leeway on cover.

Having said that he could want to sign for an Aussie team to get a shot at wc
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby mildlyinterested » January 28th, 2019, 4:53 pm

CiaranIrl wrote:I have it on very good authority that he isn't being offered a contract extension (aka IRFU won't let us offer a new deal).


interesting that murray k has reported differently.
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby hugonaut » January 28th, 2019, 4:54 pm

CiaranIrl wrote:I have it on very good authority that he isn't being offered a contract extension (aka IRFU won't let us offer a new deal).


Sh*t news. We're within the NIQ quota, JGP qualifies through residency next year [i.e. we'll be below quota], and we've loaned Nagle to Ulster, where he has had probably the most successful spell of his career, playing in interpros and Heineken Cup games.

Fardy has been a huge positive to Leinster on the pitch, on the training field and off the grass. He's probably worth twice as much as he earns, and he's our only NIQ/NIE forward. He played a highly significant part in both cup and league wins last year while having absolutely no negative impact on the progress of James Ryan - a great balancing act by the coaches, which has been repeated this year.

Ireland has no pressing need for second rows with Toner, Ryan, Beirne and Henderson, then Dillane and Roux [with Kleyn qualifying next year].

Molony plays loads for Leinster - 75+ games in the last 3.5 seasons, and he's not even 25. He's never made an Irish training squad. Our academy second rows are in first year [Baird and Dunne] and second year [Dowling], and if they want to progress upwards, the guy they have to get past before anybody else is Mick Kearney, who's Irish.

To be frank, there's no good reason we shouldn't be allowed to re-contract Fardy.
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby mildlyinterested » January 28th, 2019, 4:57 pm

hugonaut wrote:
CiaranIrl wrote:I have it on very good authority that he isn't being offered a contract extension (aka IRFU won't let us offer a new deal).


Sh*t news. We're within the NIQ quota, JGP qualifies through residency next year [i.e. we'll be below quota], and we've loaned Nagle to Ulster, where he has had probably the most successful spell of his career, playing in interpros and Heineken Cup games.

Fardy has been a huge positive to Leinster on the pitch, on the training field and off the grass. He's probably worth twice as much as he earns, and he's our only NIQ/NIE forward. He played a highly significant part in both cup and league wins last year while having absolutely no negative impact on the progress of James Ryan - a great balancing act by the coaches, which has been repeated this year.

Ireland has no pressing need for second rows with Toner, Ryan, Beirne and Henderson, then Dillane and Roux [with Kleyn qualifying next year].

Molony plays loads for Leinster - 75+ games in the last 3.5 seasons, and he's not even 25. He's never made an Irish training squad. Our academy second rows are in first year [Baird and Dunne] and second year [Dowling], and if they want to progress upwards, the guy they have to get past before anybody else is Mick Kearney, who's Irish.

To be frank, there's no good reason we shouldn't be allowed to re-contract Fardy.


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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby ChrisUppy » January 28th, 2019, 5:13 pm

Not only should we be resigning Fardy, but we should be building 6ft6 bunk beds in his spare room for our academy second row (and rangy blindside) nursery
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby CiaranIrl » January 28th, 2019, 5:38 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:
CiaranIrl wrote:I have it on very good authority that he isn't being offered a contract extension (aka IRFU won't let us offer a new deal).


interesting that murray k has reported differently.


It could be wrong, but that's what I was told anyway! I hate this 'mystery source' stuff I sometimes read, but here I am doing the same now. Sorry!
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby wixfjord » January 28th, 2019, 5:44 pm

That would be hugely annoying if true. Can't see any good reason for not allowing us to at least offer a contract to Fardy. In a recent Murray K piece the scenario seemed much rosier, with him hinting that IRFU wouldn't stand in the way.
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby Ruckedtobits » January 28th, 2019, 5:59 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:
hugonaut wrote:
CiaranIrl wrote:I have it on very good authority that he isn't being offered a contract extension (aka IRFU won't let us offer a new deal).


Sh*t news. We're within the NIQ quota, JGP qualifies through residency next year [i.e. we'll be below quota], and we've loaned Nagle to Ulster, where he has had probably the most successful spell of his career, playing in interpros and Heineken Cup games.

Fardy has been a huge positive to Leinster on the pitch, on the training field and off the grass. He's probably worth twice as much as he earns, and he's our only NIQ/NIE forward. He played a highly significant part in both cup and league wins last year while having absolutely no negative impact on the progress of James Ryan - a great balancing act by the coaches, which has been repeated this year.

Ireland has no pressing need for second rows with Toner, Ryan, Beirne and Henderson, then Dillane and Roux [with Kleyn qualifying next year].

Molony plays loads for Leinster - 75+ games in the last 3.5 seasons, and he's not even 25. He's never made an Irish training squad. Our academy second rows are in first year [Baird and Dunne] and second year [Dowling], and if they want to progress upwards, the guy they have to get past before anybody else is Mick Kearney, who's Irish.

To be frank, there's no good reason we shouldn't be allowed to re-contract Fardy.


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A very good summary of our case. We (STH) should fight this. If true, we need to get confirmation that Leo & Stuart want to keep him and then plan what's the most effective way to change the mind of DN - there's always a way
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby blockhead » January 28th, 2019, 7:03 pm

Maybe we won't be allowed to keep him because we haven't given him enough game time. :twisted:
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby Jonny tight lips » January 28th, 2019, 7:20 pm

He’s probably being sent down to Munster
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby neiliog93 » January 28th, 2019, 9:30 pm

If true absolutely terrible news, especially with the RWC next season. The IRFU were wrong when they thought Hines was too old for a contract extension, and regardless of the justification for not letting Fardy stay on they're wrong again if this is true.
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby D4surfer » January 28th, 2019, 10:03 pm

Jonny tight lips wrote:He’s probably being sent down to Munster


Wasps as mentioned earlier.

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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby Oldschool » January 28th, 2019, 10:14 pm

Unfortunately we are victims of our own success.
Nathan Hines not being offered a new contract had nothing to with his age.
We'd have done the triple HEC wins with him.
Not being allowed extend his contract was a huge hammer blow to our chances because we didn't have an adequate replacement for him.
Everyone knows this, even the dogs on the street.
Do go figure but don't take too long.
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby ronk » January 29th, 2019, 3:54 am

Finally our 3 non European rule situation is solved after 2 years of hassle and it becomes moot.

Unfortunate if true.
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby Ruckedtobits » January 29th, 2019, 8:47 am

Oldschool wrote:Unfortunately we are victims of our own success.
Nathan Hines not being offered a new contract had nothing to with his age.
We'd have done the triple HEC wins with him.
Not being allowed extend his contract was a huge hammer blow to our chances because we didn't have an adequate replacement for him.
Everyone knows this, even the dogs on the street.
Do go figure but don't take too long.


Nathan may tell the full story at some point. At that time, we only offered over-30s one-year contracts. That changed with Jamie, but he was on a National Contract as is Sean O'Brien at present. JS had a part in the decision as did IRFU, Eddie Wigglesworth. However, despite how the backstory has developed legs over the years, it was not straighforward and not all the fault of IRFU.

We would have won three in a row if we had a front row to play Toulouse in 2010. That was our real chance.
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby FLIP » January 29th, 2019, 10:08 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:
Oldschool wrote:Unfortunately we are victims of our own success.
Nathan Hines not being offered a new contract had nothing to with his age.
We'd have done the triple HEC wins with him.
Not being allowed extend his contract was a huge hammer blow to our chances because we didn't have an adequate replacement for him.
Everyone knows this, even the dogs on the street.
Do go figure but don't take too long.


Nathan may tell the full story at some point. At that time, we only offered over-30s one-year contracts. That changed with Jamie, but he was on a National Contract as is Sean O'Brien at present. JS had a part in the decision as did IRFU, Eddie Wigglesworth. However, despite how the backstory has developed legs over the years, it was not straighforward and not all the fault of IRFU.

We would have won three in a row if we had a front row to play Toulouse in 2010. That was our real chance.


We had a front row to play Toulouse in 2010. His name was Mike Ross and his coming on stabilised the scrum. Unfortunately, Cheika just didn't like him.
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby Oldschool » January 29th, 2019, 11:59 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:
Oldschool wrote:Unfortunately we are victims of our own success.
Nathan Hines not being offered a new contract had nothing to with his age.
We'd have done the triple HEC wins with him.
Not being allowed extend his contract was a huge hammer blow to our chances because we didn't have an adequate replacement for him.
Everyone knows this, even the dogs on the street.
Do go figure but don't take too long.


Nathan may tell the full story at some point. At that time, we only offered over-30s one-year contracts. That changed with Jamie, but he was on a National Contract as is Sean O'Brien at present. JS had a part in the decision as did IRFU, Eddie Wigglesworth. However, despite how the backstory has developed legs over the years, it was not straighforward and not all the fault of IRFU.

We would have won three in a row if we had a front row to play Toulouse in 2010. That was our real chance.

Hines said he wanted to stay with Leinster.
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Re: The Scott Fardy Appreciation Thread

Postby Lar » January 29th, 2019, 2:16 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:
Oldschool wrote:Unfortunately we are victims of our own success.
Nathan Hines not being offered a new contract had nothing to with his age.
We'd have done the triple HEC wins with him.
Not being allowed extend his contract was a huge hammer blow to our chances because we didn't have an adequate replacement for him.
Everyone knows this, even the dogs on the street.
Do go figure but don't take too long.


Nathan may tell the full story at some point. At that time, we only offered over-30s one-year contracts. That changed with Jamie, but he was on a National Contract as is Sean O'Brien at present. JS had a part in the decision as did IRFU, Eddie Wigglesworth. However, despite how the backstory has developed legs over the years, it was not straighforward and not all the fault of IRFU.

We would have won three in a row if we had a front row to play Toulouse in 2010. That was our real chance.


If we had won in 2010 we would have done four in a row.
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