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Brawl outside Kiely's

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don't know if this is in some other thread but anyone any info on how this all kicked off.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/n ... 44024.html
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Mucho superfluous hysterics and harrumping bout this on FB Monday night. Boring.......

Most pertinent commentary IMO was provided by Waterford Whispers News:

http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2018/0 ... d-a-brawl/
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leinster10 wrote:don't know if this is in some other thread but anyone any info on how this all kicked off.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/n ... 44024.html
Think its in domestic rugby, and the need for class warfare

Would genuinely be interested in seeing how the schoos handle it

Kielys owners seem really naive by their quotes and not very litigation savvy by their actions
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simonokeeffe wrote:
leinster10 wrote:don't know if this is in some other thread but anyone any info on how this all kicked off.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/n ... 44024.html
Think its in domestic rugby, and the need for class warfare

Would genuinely be interested in seeing how the schoos handle it

Kielys owners seem really naive by their quotes and not very litigation savvy by their actions
According to the guy who took the footage and put it up on the social media, the Kiely's bouncers handled the situation very well i.e. didn't overreact and were a calming influence.
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riocard911 wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:
leinster10 wrote:don't know if this is in some other thread but anyone any info on how this all kicked off.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/n ... 44024.html
Think its in domestic rugby, and the need for class warfare

Would genuinely be interested in seeing how the schoos handle it

Kielys owners seem really naive by their quotes and not very litigation savvy by their actions
According to the guy who took the footage and put it up on the social media, the Kiely's bouncers handled the situation very well i.e. didn't overreact and were a calming influence.
I got the impression it was bar staff only from the article? Owner said him and barstaff sic including his sons tried to intervene outside and some were hit

This is part supposition but any of no bouncers/not serving in plastic glasses/letting anyone drink or take drinks outside was asking for trouble. Especially the last one.
Barstaff intervening in a street fight is a potential litigation nightmare too (not saying theyre morally wrong for doing that)
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simonokeeffe wrote:
I got the impression it was bar staff only from the article? Owner said him and barstaff sic including his sons tried to intervene outside and some were hit

This is part supposition but any of no bouncers/not serving in plastic glasses/letting anyone drink or take drinks outside was asking for trouble. Especially the last one.
It's feckin 5 o clock on a weekday evening in Donnybrook after a schools cup game. Hardly 'asking for trouble' to do any of that!

As for the gobshites that started it, too many Heinos and got too pumped up singing the school songs obviously. :lol:
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According to the guy who made the vid,they were tanked up on cans not on pints from Kiely's. Too boot he said it was recent past-pupils and not schoolboys doing the macho-man impressions.
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As previously, this has very little, if anything, to do with the Schools per se. The usual form is that recent past pupils get liquid lunches and gee each other up with interaction on social media and then head to D'brook. Depending on the result and nature of the contest, the verbals may spill over into the physical.

A few years since the last time, but definitely not unique.
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wixfjord wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:
I got the impression it was bar staff only from the article? Owner said him and barstaff sic including his sons tried to intervene outside and some were hit

This is part supposition but any of no bouncers/not serving in plastic glasses/letting anyone drink or take drinks outside was asking for trouble. Especially the last one.
It's feckin 5 o clock on a weekday evening in Donnybrook after a schools cup game. Hardly 'asking for trouble' to do any of that!

As for the gobshites that started it, too many Heinos and got too pumped up singing the school songs obviously. :lol:
Teenagers must be better behaved where youre from :)
And fancy schools can still turn out plenty of knobs

Letting people especially that age especially lads who have been drinking cans etc half the day mix in with your customers just outside your premises is a really bad idea

Have worked in city centre venues long enough and often enough to have seen that repeatedly eg when Dame Lane was basically one amalgamated beer garden

@RTB how sad do you have to be to get that worked up over something like that? (The past pupils)
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simonokeeffe wrote:
wixfjord wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:
I got the impression it was bar staff only from the article? Owner said him and barstaff sic including his sons tried to intervene outside and some were hit

This is part supposition but any of no bouncers/not serving in plastic glasses/letting anyone drink or take drinks outside was asking for trouble. Especially the last one.
It's feckin 5 o clock on a weekday evening in Donnybrook after a schools cup game. Hardly 'asking for trouble' to do any of that!

As for the gobshites that started it, too many Heinos and got too pumped up singing the school songs obviously. :lol:
Teenagers must be better behaved where youre from :)
And fancy schools can still turn out plenty of knobs

Letting people especially that age especially lads who have been drinking cans etc half the day mix in with your customers just outside your premises is a really bad idea

Have worked in city centre venues long enough and often enough to have seen that repeatedly eg when Dame Lane was basically one amalgamated beer garden

@RTB how sad do you have to be to get that worked up over something like that? (The past pupils)
I'd say there are only a select few schools that would get that worked up about their schools - and they happen to be fee paying rugby schools.
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There was a young man killed as a result of one of these brawls some years back. I can’t figure out why this cr@p still goes on.
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domhnallj wrote:There was a young man killed as a result of one of these brawls some years back. I can’t figure out why this cr@p still goes on.
I was in Annabels for that. That night was crazed in general, saw one guy throw all the glasses off a table and he only got a warning from security ffs. Going by statements in court they got nowhere near all the assailants either

It is needless stuff.

@LB theres a few hockey ones too but youre not wrong
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in bygone times thats all Donnybrook was know for
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Donnybrook Fair was a fair that was held in Donnybrook, Dublin, from the 13th century until the 1850s. It has given its name to an Irish jig, an upscale supermarket chain, a broadsheet ballad, and is a slang term for a brawl or riot
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johng wrote:Donnybrook Fair was a fair that was held in Donnybrook, Dublin, from the 13th century until the 1850s. It has given its name to an Irish jig, an upscale supermarket chain, a broadsheet ballad, and is a slang term for a brawl or riot
Yeah remember hearing it for the first time watching an Aussie derby, popped up in North America too. The phrase is so Irish even it emmigrated forever
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johng wrote:Donnybrook Fair was a fair that was held in Donnybrook, Dublin, from the 13th century until the 1850s. It has given its name to an Irish jig, an upscale supermarket chain, a broadsheet ballad, and is a slang term for a brawl or riot
Yay! Leinster rugby yoof upholding ancient traditions!!!!
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simonokeeffe wrote: The phrase is so Irish even it emmigrated forever
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Turns out it was a non dub event.
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