Leinster Squad 18-19

[Oldschool]

The thing that jumps out of the list: the lack of out-halves on a full contract.
Munster has 5 fully contracted outhalves.
Ulster, AFAIK, only one.

Of our two, one will play in only 10-15 squads over the season, depending on how we do, and how fit he is.

Didn't see Marsh in the list, has he shipped out?

[curates_egg]

The thing that jumps out of the list: the lack of out-halves on a full contract.
Munster has 5 fully contracted outhalves.
Ulster, AFAIK, only one.

Of our two, one will play in only 10-15 squads over the season, depending on how we do, and how fit he is.

Didn't see Marsh in the list, has he shipped out?

That was announced in April and it has not been un-announced, so to speak.
http://www.the42.ie/isa-nacewa-retire-3975150-Apr2018/

[Ruckedtobits]

Leinster Squad 2018-2019

LH Prop
Cian Healy(30) - Signed central 3yr contract in 2016
Jack McGrath(28) - Signed central 3yr contract in 2016
Ed Byrne(24) - Signed 2yr contract in 2017
Peter Dooley(24) - Signed contract in 2018

TH Prop
Michael Bent(32) - Signed contract in 2018
Tadhg Furlong(25) - Signed central 3yr contract in 2018
Andrew Porter(22) - Signed contract in 2017
Vakh Abdaladze(22) - Signed contact in 2018
Jack Aungier(19) - Academy Yr 2
Michael Milne(18/19) - Academy Yr 1

Hooker
Sean Cronin(32) - Signed contract in 2018
James Tracy(27) - Signed contract in 2018
Bryan Byrne(24) - Signed contract in 2017
Ronan Kelleher(20) - Academy Yr 2

Lock
Scott Fardy(34) - Signed 2 yr contract in 2017
Devin Toner(32) - Signed central 3yr contract in 2017
Ian Nagle(29) - Signed contract in 2017
Mick Kearney(27) - Signed contract in 2017
Ross Molony(24) - Signed contract in 2018
James Ryan(22) - Signed contract in 2017
Oisin Dowling(21) - Academy Yr 2
Jack Dunne(19) - Academy Yr 1
Ryan Baird(18/19) - Academy Yr 1

Backrow
Sean O'Brien(31) - Signed central 3 yr contract in 2016
Rhys Ruddock(27) - Signed contract in 2018
Jack Conan(26) - Signed contract in 2017
Josh Van Der Flier(25) - Signed contract in 2018
Dan Leavy(24) - Signed contract in 2017
Josh Murphy(23) - Signed contract in 2018
Will Connors(22) - Signed contract in 2018
Max Deegan(21) - Signed contract in 2017
Caelan Doris(20) - Signed contract in 2018
Scott Penny(18/19) - Academy Yr 1

Scrumhalf
Jamie Gibson Park(26) - Signed 3 yr contract in 2016
Luke McGrath(25) - Signed contract in 2017
Nick McCarthy(23) - Signed contract in 2017
Hugh O'Sullivan(20) - Academy Yr 2
Patrick Patterson(19/20) - Academy Yr 1

Outhalf
Jonathan Sexton(33) - Signed central 4 yr contract in 2015
Ross Byrne(23) - Signed contract in 2017
Ciaran Frawley(20) - Academy Yr 2
Harry Byrne(19) - Academy Yr 1

Centre
Joe Tomane(28) - Signed contract in 2018
Noel Reid(28) - Signed contract in 2017
Robbie Henshaw(25) - Signed 3yr contract in 2016
Tom Daly(25) - Signed contract in 2018
Rory O'Loughlin(24) - Signed contract in 2017
Garry Ringrose(23) - Signed contract in 2018
Conor O'Brien(22) - Academy Yr 3
Jimmy O'Brien(21) - Academy Yr 3
Gavin Mullin(20) - Academy Yr 2
Tommy O'Brien(20) - Academy Yr 2

Back Three
Rob Kearney(32) - Signed central contract until 2019 WC.
Fergus McFadden(32) - Signed contract in 2018
Dave Kearney(29) - Signed contract in 2018
James Lowe(26) - Signed 3yr contract in 2017
Barry Daly(25) - Signed contract in 2017
Adam Byrne(24) - Signed contract in 2017
Hugo Keenan(22) - Academy Yr 3
Jordan Larmour(21) - Signed contract in 2018
Jack Kelly(20) - Academy Yr 3
Tommy O'Brien(20) - Academy Yr 2
Michaels Silvester(20) - Academy Yr 1
Aaron O'Sullivan(18) - Academy Yr 1

Tommy O'Brien included twice (centre & Back Three). Big Squad (63 in listing) with lots of mouths to feed - with game time.

[leinsterforever]

Is Aungier ready to get the minutes Adam Coyle got last season, or could Coyle be called up again?

[LeRouxIsPHat]

Felipe is only 40 and might be annoyed that everyone loves Isa so much...

[LeRouxIsPHat]

Very curious about Duggan. I wouldn't exactly say we're light on looseheads but the youngest are 24 so I'd have thought there was a spot for him given that he's pretty good.

Thanks for the list MI.

[wixfjord]

With Vakh, Bent, Porter and Furlong we should have enough TH cover, but one injury could mean Aungier gets a bit of a bench opportunity alright. Really interested to see how Vakh goes this year.

[arsebiscuits1]

Interesting lack of hookers.

I know we have the same amount of looseheads but Porter or Bent could switch over if we were proper stuck.

I hope we don't leave ourselves too thin in such a specialist position.

All it would take is an injury to one while Cronin is away on national duty (i know Scannell and Herring went well in Oz - but I still think Cronin will be number 2) and we look very light indeed

[curates_egg]

Interesting lack of hookers.

I know we have the same amount of looseheads but Porter or Bent could switch over if we were proper stuck.

I hope we don't leave ourselves too thin in such a specialist position.

All it would take is an injury to one while Cronin is away on national duty (i know Scannell and Herring went well in Oz - but I still think Cronin will be number 2) and we look very light indeed

3 contracted hookers (with a decent spread of experience), one of whom will probably be the Ireland reserve (but may not be).
2 contracted outhalves; both of whom could conceivably be in Irish matchday squad, and one of whom will be unavailable for most of the season.

I understand your concern but think the concern elsewhere is more acute.

[leinsterforever]

Interesting lack of hookers.

I know we have the same amount of looseheads but Porter or Bent could switch over if we were proper stuck.

I hope we don't leave ourselves too thin in such a specialist position.

All it would take is an injury to one while Cronin is away on national duty (i know Scannell and Herring went well in Oz - but I still think Cronin will be number 2) and we look very light indeed

3 contracted hookers (with a decent spread of experience), one of whom will probably be the Ireland reserve (but may not be).
2 contracted outhalves; both of whom could conceivably be in Irish matchday squad, and one of whom will be unavailable for most of the season.

I understand your concern but think the concern elsewhere is more acute.

What does Frawley's contract situation matter? He's still the same player regardless of whether he has a pro contract or not

[hugonaut]

Interesting lack of hookers.

I know we have the same amount of looseheads but Porter or Bent could switch over if we were proper stuck.

I hope we don't leave ourselves too thin in such a specialist position.

All it would take is an injury to one while Cronin is away on national duty (i know Scannell and Herring went well in Oz - but I still think Cronin will be number 2) and we look very light indeed

Don't think we have too many hookers. Obviously injuries could make a nonsense of that, but I am very keen to see Ronan Kelleher get some games next season. Really big talent. I think if we put him in games, he'll do well.

[Oldschool]

The thing that jumps out of the list: the lack of out-halves on a full contract.
Munster has 5 fully contracted outhalves.
Ulster, AFAIK, only one.

Of our two, one will play in only 10-15 squads over the season, depending on how we do, and how fit he is.

Didn't see Marsh in the list, has he shipped out?

That was announced in April and it has not been un-announced, so to speak.
http://www.the42.ie/isa-nacewa-retire-3975150-Apr2018/

Thanks, the old memory is slipping.

[leinsterforever]

Can't say I have too many concerns about hooker. Cronin, Tracy, Byrne and Kelleher are good options. Call up someone from club rugby if an extra body is needed during the season

[Oldschool]

Tommy O'Brien included twice (centre & Back Three). Big Squad (63 in listing) with lots of mouths to feed - with game time.

A complicated question.
What is a reasonable sized squad assuming all things being equal ie all provinces pulling their weight.
(Pulling their weight doesn't necessarily mean pulling an equal weight)
As an ideal criteria let's say, on average, that Leinster should provide 40% of the players to national squad, Connacht 10% with Munster and Ulster providing 25% each.
The criteria might include population size, playing numbers, competition from other sports but is not the issue here.
Based on the%s above what is the pro rata correct size for each provincial squad.
That's the simplest scenario.
The minimum size squad is probably 46, 23 X 2 - Connacht.
The maximum size squad is probably 69, 23 X 3 - Leinster.
Leaving Ulster and Munster somewhere in the middle, 58, 23 X 2 23/2 = 58 rounded up.

[LeRouxIsPHat]

Hooker could go either way IMO. Tracy and Byrne are inconsistent and Kelleher is an unknown quality right now. I'm hopeful about them all and was particularly happy with Byrne's improvement but wouldn't exactly say it's an area of strength for us.

[riocard911]

Hooker could go either way IMO. Tracy and Byrne are inconsistent and Kelleher is an unknown quality right now. I'm hopeful about them all and was particularly happy with Byrne's improvement but wouldn't exactly say it's an area of strength for us.

As a former 2 meself, that's also how I see it.

[mildlyinterested]

I wouldnt be surprised to see them bring a club hooker in on trial - Paddy Finlay being the most obvious choice.

They offered eoghan clarke an academy place so it's an area they feel needs addressing in terms of depth.

Bryan Byrne's improvement and consistency at the end of the season was encouraging.

[mildlyinterested]

The thing that jumps out of the list: the lack of out-halves on a full contract.
Munster has 5 fully contracted outhalves.
Ulster, AFAIK, only one.

Of our two, one will play in only 10-15 squads over the season, depending on how we do, and how fit he is.

Didn't see Marsh in the list, has he shipped out?

he was released. not good enough.

[ronk]

When was the last time we signed a medical joker?

[cormac]

When was the last time we signed a medical joker?

Nicolaas van Dyk in 2014/15?