Dave Cahill wrote:Its two inches ffs. Measure out two inches and reflect on the ridiculousness of this entire argument.
Ara relax Dave, it's just a point that Penny might be a bit undersized if he wants to play at test level currently. Guys like VDF, Pocock, Warburton would all have a good bit on him physically.
Now hopefully he might fill out more and indeed it might not matter given his other physical gifts but given how highly he is rated it is something I'm watching out for.
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13. Liam Turner (Blackrock/Dublin University/Leinster)
12. David Hawkshaw (Belvedere/Clontarf/Leinster)
10. Harry Byrne (St. Michaels/Lansdowne/Leinster)
3. Thomas Clarkson (Blackrock/Dublin University/Leinster)(u19)
4. Charlie Ryan (Blackrock/UCD/Leinster)
6. Martin Moloney (Athy RFC/Old Belvedere/Leinster)
7. Scott Penny (St.Michaels/UCD/Leinster)
18. Michael Milne (Birr RFC-Roscrea/UCD/Leinster)
19. Brian Deeny (Wexford RFC/Clontarf/Leinster)(u19)
20. Ronan Watters (St.Mary/St.Mary’s College/Leinster)
21. Cormac Foley (St. Gerards/St.Mary’s College / Leinster)
23. Rob Russell (St. Michaels/Dublin University/Leinster)
Shame Ryan Baird isn't there, was hoping he'd make his debut this friday.
Milne covering TH is interesting, he would have been favourite to be starting TH at the start of the season but he struggled there for UCD U20.
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arsebiscuits1 wrote:
The like of VDF and Warburton are of very similar dimensions also.
Warburton is 6ft2.
Penny might be 6ft.
They are not of very similar dimension.
Ah lad would you get out of here.
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There's your gap. If I can quantify it on an online forum using hyphens, you can bet it's not a big deal. Especially when Penny is not expected to be a lineout option.
Also, in case you were under the impression that I'm going to argue the significance of 2 inches... I am not. Consider yourself mistaken and save us time
Taller isn't stronger, taller isn't more powerful, taller isn't faster and taller isn't better at rugby. Its just taller. In certain positions height can be a potential advantage, but thats all it is.
Dave Cahill wrote:Taller isn't stronger, taller isn't more powerful, taller isn't faster and taller isn't better at rugby. Its just taller. In certain positions height can be a potential advantage, but thats all it is.
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wixfjord wrote:I'm less thinking about his height than about how much more bulk he can pack onto that frame.
Dave Cahill wrote:Taller isn't stronger, taller isn't more powerful, taller isn't faster and taller isn't better at rugby. Its just taller. In certain positions height can be a potential advantage, but thats all it is.
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wixfjord wrote:I'm less thinking about his height than about how much more bulk he can pack onto that frame.
I hope not much more. Add strength as he matures but don't bother with bulk unless it comes naturally. Pocock and Hooper are the prototypes and Neil Back was the pre-cursor. Penny is a super player who can contribute to any team he plays for, if he can maintain his fitness.
Dave Cahill wrote:Taller isn't stronger, taller isn't more powerful, taller isn't faster and taller isn't better at rugby. Its just taller. In certain positions height can be a potential advantage, but thats all it is.
Me thinks you doth protest too much. If you are a fast, excellent young rugby player, then being taller brings the potential to develop more size and power and be better a version of yourself. Its just factual.
Dave Cahill wrote:Taller isn't stronger, taller isn't more powerful, taller isn't faster and taller isn't better at rugby. Its just taller. In certain positions height can be a potential advantage, but thats all it is.
Me thinks you doth protest too much. If you are a fast, excellent young rugby player, then being taller brings the potential to develop more size and power and be better a version of yourself. Its just factual.
George Smith 5'11", Neil Back 5'10", David Pocock 6', Michael Hooper 6', Serge Betson 6', Keith Gleeson 6' and the greatest I ever saw, JP Rives 5'10" all managed to have decent careers
Being tall does not bring the potential to develop more size and power, it just means you're tall. Most world class weightlifters, certainly in the 109kg class (where most backrow rugby players would reside) are less than 6' - in a lot of cases considerably so. Rugby's obsession with size has gone the way of bootcut jeans and Linkin Park - popular at the turn of the century, but since re-evaluated
Dave Cahill wrote:Taller isn't stronger, taller isn't more powerful, taller isn't faster and taller isn't better at rugby. Its just taller. In certain positions height can be a potential advantage, but thats all it is.
Me thinks you doth protest too much. If you are a fast, excellent young rugby player, then being taller brings the potential to develop more size and power and be better a version of yourself. Its just factual.
George Smith 5'11", Neil Back 5'10", David Pocock 6', Michael Hooper 6', Serge Betson 6', Keith Gleeson 6' and the greatest I ever saw, JP Rives 5'10" all managed to have decent careers
Being tall does not bring the potential to develop more size and power, it just means you're tall. Most world class weightlifters, certainly in the 109kg class (where most backrow rugby players would reside) are less than 6' - in a lot of cases considerably so. Rugby's obsession with size has gone the way of bootcut jeans and Linkin Park - popular at the turn of the century, but since re-evaluated
Not hugely accurate there Dave...
Nu metal as a genre died out. Not just Linkin Park
