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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby neiliog93 » March 6th, 2019, 11:41 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Some great talent on show today.


Is the hat-trick hero prop Godson as outrageously good as that kind of statistic would suggest?
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby ronk » March 6th, 2019, 11:48 pm

Or his name...
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 7th, 2019, 9:33 am

neiliog93 wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:Some great talent on show today.


Is the hat-trick hero prop Godson as outrageously good as that kind of statistic would suggest?


He was good, but no i'm afraid he isn't as outrageously talented as that statistic would suggest.

Doesn't have frame of a adult prop to me, possibly needs to move to hooker at leinster underage level.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 7th, 2019, 9:33 am

My team of the Leinster SCT semi-finals:

1. Jack Boyle(St. Michaels)(u17)
2. Hugo Fitzgerald(Gonzaga)(u18)
3. Conor Cagney(Belvedere)(u19)
4. Alex Soroka(Belvedere)(u18)
5. Jack Coolican(Gonzaga)(u19)
6. Jack Guinane(St. Michaels)(u18)
7. Mark Hernan(St. Michaels)(u19)
8. Will Hickey(St. Michaels)(u18)
9. Jack Connolly(Gonzaga)(u19)
10. Justin Leonard(Belvedere) (u18)
11. John Maher(Clongowes)(u19)
12. Caelan Mulvaney(Belvedere)(u19)
13. Chris Cosgrave(St. Michaels)(u18)
14. Ed Kelly(St. Michaels)(u18)
15. Andrew Smith(St. Michaels)(u19)
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby CiaranIrl » March 7th, 2019, 11:12 am

mildlyinterested wrote:My team of the Leinster SCT semi-finals:

1. Jack Boyle(St. Michaels)(u17)
2. Hugo Fitzgerald(Gonzaga)(u18)
3. Conor Cagney(Belvedere)(u19)
4. Alex Soroka(Belvedere)(u18)
5. Jack Coolican(Gonzaga)(u19)
6. Jack Guinane(St. Michaels)(u18)
7. Mark Hernan(St. Michaels)(u19)
8. Will Hickey(St. Michaels)(u18)
9. Jack Connolly(Gonzaga)(u19)
10. Justin Leonard(Belvedere) (u18)
11. John Maher(Clongowes)(u19)
12. Caelan Mulvaney(Belvedere)(u19)
13. Chris Cosgrave(St. Michaels)(u18)
14. Ed Kelly(St. Michaels)(u18)
15. Andrew Smith(St. Michaels)(u19)


I do think that if Rock and Michael's had avoided each other in the run in that that would have been the final. Hope it doesn't cost some talented players a career.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 7th, 2019, 11:17 am

CiaranIrl wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:My team of the Leinster SCT semi-finals:

1. Jack Boyle(St. Michaels)(u17)
2. Hugo Fitzgerald(Gonzaga)(u18)
3. Conor Cagney(Belvedere)(u19)
4. Alex Soroka(Belvedere)(u18)
5. Jack Coolican(Gonzaga)(u19)
6. Jack Guinane(St. Michaels)(u18)
7. Mark Hernan(St. Michaels)(u19)
8. Will Hickey(St. Michaels)(u18)
9. Jack Connolly(Gonzaga)(u19)
10. Justin Leonard(Belvedere) (u18)
11. John Maher(Clongowes)(u19)
12. Caelan Mulvaney(Belvedere)(u19)
13. Chris Cosgrave(St. Michaels)(u18)
14. Ed Kelly(St. Michaels)(u18)
15. Andrew Smith(St. Michaels)(u19)


I do think that if Rock and Michael's had avoided each other in the run in that that would have been the final. Hope it doesn't cost some talented players a career.


Quite possible they would have yes.

Given amount of analysis and scouting done, I highly doubt it.

Injuries at the wrong time much more likely to cost a player a chance at a career.

Niall Comerford(Wing) and Joseph McCarthy(Lock) were two players who could have done with a longer cup campaign, but I'd be optimistic they'll get looked at it.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 7th, 2019, 2:10 pm

Apparently David Hawkshaw did his ACL, and will be out for remaining Six Nations games and JWC.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 7th, 2019, 7:20 pm

Leinster u18 semi finals this weekend
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby Ruckedtobits » March 7th, 2019, 7:50 pm

CiaranIrl wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:My team of the Leinster SCT semi-finals:

1. Jack Boyle(St. Michaels)(u17)
2. Hugo Fitzgerald(Gonzaga)(u18)
3. Conor Cagney(Belvedere)(u19)
4. Alex Soroka(Belvedere)(u18)
5. Jack Coolican(Gonzaga)(u19)
6. Jack Guinane(St. Michaels)(u18)
7. Mark Hernan(St. Michaels)(u19)
8. Will Hickey(St. Michaels)(u18)
9. Jack Connolly(Gonzaga)(u19)
10. Justin Leonard(Belvedere) (u18)
11. John Maher(Clongowes)(u19)
12. Caelan Mulvaney(Belvedere)(u19)
13. Chris Cosgrave(St. Michaels)(u18)
14. Ed Kelly(St. Michaels)(u18)
15. Andrew Smith(St. Michaels)(u19)


I do think that if Rock and Michael's had avoided each other in the run in that that would have been the final. Hope it doesn't cost some talented players a career.


Have to disagree, on the basis of q/f and s/fs that I saw. Two teams who took their chances are in the final. Gonzaga may not have the physiques of Michaels but they make less mistakes.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby backrower8 » March 7th, 2019, 10:15 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:Have to disagree, on the basis of q/f and s/fs that I saw. Two teams who took their chances are in the final. Gonzaga may not have the physiques of Michaels but they make less mistakes.


Gonzaga made less mistakes as they weren’t under the pressure that pertained in the Michael’s vs Belvedere and Blackrock matches.

I don’t think Gonzaga’s pack would have made it past the power that Belvedere and Blackrock had.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 8th, 2019, 7:49 pm

interesting to see David Ryan with the u20 squad.

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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 11th, 2019, 3:28 pm

Leinster Academy Update

Prop

Jack Aungier(Year 2/Suttonians RFC/Terenure) - started at 3 for Terenure.
Michael Milne(Year 1/CC Roscrea-Birr RFC/UCD) - injured.

Guiseppe Coyne(U20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 1 for DUFC.
Thomas Clarkson(U19/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 3 for 20's.
Harry Noonan(U19/Greystones RFC/Old Wesley) - started at 1 for Old Wesley.

Hooker
Ronan Kelleher(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - didn't play this weekend.
Dan Sheehan(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - started at 2 for DUFC.

Declan Adamson(U20/Clontarf/Clontarf) - stated at 2 for Clontarf, 1 try.
Richie Bergin(U20/St. Marys/UCD) - bench for UCD.
Bobby Sheehan(U19/Clongowes/UCD) - started at 2 for UCD.
Ethan Baxter(U19/St. Gerards/Old Belvedere) - started at 2 Old Belvedere.
John McKee(U19/St. Gerards/Old Belvedere) - bench for Irish 20's.

Lock
Oisin Dowling(Year 2/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - didn't play this weekend.
Jack Dunne(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - started at 5 for DUFC.
Ryan Baird(Year 1/St. Michaels/DUFC) - bench for Irish 20's.

Charlie Ryan(U20/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 5 for 20's.
Cian Prendergast(U19/Newbridge/UCD) - started at 4 for UCD.

Backrow
Scott Penny(Year 1/St. Michaels/UCD) - started at 7 for 20's.

Martin Moloney(U20/Athy RFC/Old Beledere) - started at 6 for 20's.
Ruadhan Byron(U20/Belvedere/Clontarf) - started at 6 for Clontarf.
Gerard Hill(U20/Belvedere/Old Belvdere) - bench.

Scrumhalf
Hugh O'Sullivan(Year 2/Belvedere/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Patrick Patterson(Year 1/Blackrock/UCD) - started at 9 for UCD.

Cormac Foley(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - bench for Irish 20's.

Outhalf
Ciaran Frawley(Year 2/Skerries RFC/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Harry Byrne(Year 1/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - injured.
David Hawkshaw(Year 1/Belvedere/Clontarf) - injured.

Conor Kelly(U20/Roscrea/Clontarf) - bench for Clontarf.

Centre
Conor O'Brien(Year 3/Mullingar RFC/Clontarf) - didn't play this weekend.
Jimmy O'Brien(Year 3/Newbridge/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Gavin Mullin(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - didn't play this weekend.
Tommy O'Brien(Year 2/Blackrock/UCD) - injured.

Adam LaGrue(U20/Terenure/Terenure) - started at 13 for Terenure.
Liam Turner(u20/Blackrock/DUFC) - started at 13 for Irish 20's.

Back Three
Hugo Keenan(Year 3/Blackrock/UCD) - Irish 7's.
Jack Kelly(Year 3/St. Michaels/DUFC) - Irish 7's.
Michael Silvester(Year 1/Clongowes/DUFC) - Irish 7's.
Aaron O'Sullivan(Year 1/Exile/UCD) - bench for UCD.

Rob Russell(U20/St. Michaels/DUFC) - bench for Irish 20's.
Hugo Conway(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 14 for St. Marys.
Ruairi Shields(U20/St. Marys/St. Marys) - started at 15 for St. Marys.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 11th, 2019, 4:23 pm

I see Declan Adamson has been selected in the Connacht eagles squad headed to the states. Apparently Adamson still involved with leinster sub-academy but connacht were stuck and he was approached and accepted.

Other ex-leinster underage players: Sean Masterson, Jordan Duggan, Conor Dean and Sean O’Brien.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 12th, 2019, 12:46 pm

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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 13th, 2019, 11:50 am

Prop
Tom Clarkson(Leinster) - started all 4 games at TH, playing full 80 in three.
Michael Milne(Leinster) - 3 bench appearances. 2 at LH, 1 at TH. ruled out of france game with injury.
Guiseppe Coyne(Leinster) - no appearances to date.

Clarkson has been very impressive as a 18 year old playing TH prop and looks certain to join the academy next season, disappointing that Milne is a sub prop but based on performances there can be no complaints. Shame he picked up an injury for UCD and missed france game. Coyne has been overtaken by now healthy Callum Reid and looks unlikely to get a cap.

Hooker
John McKee(Leinster) - 3 bench appearances.

McKee has been decent off the bench in limited game-time, doesn't offer much carrying threat but seems to do the basics well, eligible again next season. Interested to see if leinster reward him with an academy contract.

Lock
Charlie Ryan(Leinster) - started all 4 games, became captain after hawkshaw got injured.
Ryan Baird(Leinster) - missed start of 6 nations with injury, 1 bench appearance.
Brian Deeny(Leinster) - 2 bench appearances, 1 bench non-appearance.

Ryan has looked much improved on last season and likely an academy contract. Baird unfortunately missed the start of the 6 nations due to injury, made his return off the bench against france and looked as athletic and powerful as expected. Deeny has gotten 2 bench appearances and looked athletic, looks promising with much to work on.

Backrow
Scott Penny(Leinster) - started all 4 games at 7, 1 try.
Martin Moloney(Leinster) - started all 4 games at 6.
Ronan Watters(Leinster) - 1 bench appearance.

Penny has been excellent as expected, Moloney has been almost as good which was unexpected, he looks certain to have earned an academy contract for next season. Watters has gotten very limited game time.

Scrumhalf
Cormac Foley(Leinster) - started 1 game for an injured Casey, 3 bench appearances, 1 try.

Foley's one start is the one game not televised so hard to judge him on that, his 3 bench appearances have been good, considering he is a recent convert to 9 full time, there is plenty to work with going forward.

Outhalf
Harry Byrne(Leinster) - 3 starts, missing france game due to injury.

Was generally excellent in his 3 starts, hopefully he will return for final game.

Centre
David Hawkshaw(Leinster) - 3 starts at 12, 1 try. injury ended season.
Liam Turner(Leinster) - 4 starts at 13, 2 tries.

Hawkshaw looked very good in his 3 starts, unfortunately his torn ACL has ended his season. Turner has also looked very good in his 4 starts and almost certainly has earned an academy contract.

Back Three
Rob Russel(Leinster) - 4 bench appearances.
Aaron O'Sullivan(Leinster) - no appearances to date, injury related.

Russell has been solid off the bench but hasn't flashed potential academy potential. Unfortunately O'Sullivan has been absent due to injury, hopefully he can force his way into JWC side.
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 13th, 2019, 11:56 am

Youth finals this weekend:

U18
Navan V Gorey(Premier)
Cill Dara V Mullingar(Division 1)

U16
Gorey V Naas(Premier)
Wicklow V West Offaly(Division 1)
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 13th, 2019, 12:42 pm

Last season's Irish 20's

Props

Jack Aungier (Terenure/Leinster) - Leinster Academy
Joe Byrne (DUFC/Leinster) - AIL for Blackrock
Jordan Duggan (Naas/Leinster) - AIL for Naas

Hookers
Ronan Kelleher (Lansdowne/Leinster) - Leinster Academy, 1 leinster cap
Dan Sheehan (DUFC/Leinster) - Leinster Academy
Eoghan Clarke (Wanderers/Leinster) - Munster Academy, AIL with Shannon


Locks
Jack Dunne (Dublin University/Leinster) - Leinster Academy, 2 leinster caps
Charlie Ryan (UCD /Leinster) - Leinster Sub-Academy, vice captain of Ireland u20
Cormac Daly (Clontarf/Leinster) - AIL for Clontarf

Backrows
Caelan Doris (St. Marys/Leinster) - Leinster senior squad, 12 leinster caps
Max Kearney (Dublin University/Leinster) - AIL for Trinity

Scrumhalves
Hugh O’Sullivan (Clontarf /Leinster) - Leinster Academy, 11 leinster caps
Paddy Patterson (UCD/LeinsteR) - Leinster Academy, 2 leinster caps

Outhalf
Harry Byrne (UCD/Leinster) - Leinster Academy, ireland u20 starting 10
Conor Dean (St. Mary’s/Leinster) - Connacht Academy

Outside Backs
Tommy O’Brien (UCD/Leinster) - Leinster Academy, injured since JWC.
Michael Silvester (Dublin University/Leinster) - Leinster Academy, Ireland 7's
Sean O’Brien (Clontarf/Leinster) - Connacht Academy
Peter Sullivan (Lansdowne/Leinster) - AIL for Lansdowne
Tom Roche (Lansdowne FC/Leinster) - AIL for Lansdowne
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby Peg Leg » March 13th, 2019, 10:33 pm

As always, thanks
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby mildlyinterested » March 13th, 2019, 10:39 pm

Peg Leg wrote:As always, thanks


no worries, always wonder if people are reading, given how many times I post without a reply. :lol:
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Re: Academy 2018/2019

Postby CiaranIrl » March 13th, 2019, 11:10 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:As always, thanks


no worries, always wonder if people are reading, given how many times I post without a reply. :lol:


We do! Thanks for doing it!
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