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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby OTT » October 15th, 2018, 11:18 am

rosscarrick wrote:
wixfjord wrote:
Gearzbox2 wrote:
Front row were good bar cronin’s couple of blips, I’m sure he’ll work hard this week on it, he’s been really solid last 18 months with the arrows so not a big worry as some people on here like to point out plus took his score unbelievably well



You're definitely a hooker that was burned a few times by throwing criticism!

His throwing has been good, it was poor on Friday, hopefully it will improve for Toulouse because we'll need it.



Is Cronin the best lineout thrower we have in our squad, or at least on the pitch?
I could never understand why Jackman (or Shane Byrne) was always allowed throw the ball in, back in the day.
Surely there is someone better in the 15, let them throw it in?


From about the age of 25 to 33 Shane Byrne was up there with the best lineout throwers in the world, strange comment.

He messed up for the Lions in 2005 in a pack that messed up most things they did but it was his throwing that got him a start ahead of Thompson in the first place.

Did he not have some stat where he held the record for most successive throws won in a row at some stage for Ireland when Keith Wood was injured 30 something??(one of the stattos here I am sure will know the answer to this).
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby Dave Cahill » October 15th, 2018, 11:25 am

OTT wrote:
He messed up for the Lions in 2005 in a pack that messed up most things they did but it was his throwing that got him a start ahead of Thompson in the first place.


My fleeting brush with media fame was during a preseason friendly against Saints after the Lions tour, Thompson was doing water/towel boy and Saints had a lineout in our 22. He threw the towel to his hooker to dry the ball with and missed (in fairness, towels aren't particularly aerodynamic) - I made a smart arsed comment (which I have since forgotten but I'm sure it was comedy gold) - which to give credit to Thompson he found funny (unusual I know) - that made its way into the next days match report in the papers
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby rosscarrick » October 15th, 2018, 12:20 pm

OTT wrote:
rosscarrick wrote:
Gearzbox2 wrote:
Front row were good bar cronin’s couple of blips, I’m sure he’ll work hard this week on it, he’s been really solid last 18 months with the arrows so not a big worry as some people on here like to point out plus took his score unbelievably well


Is Cronin the best lineout thrower we have in our squad, or at least on the pitch?
I could never understand why Jackman (or Shane Byrne) was always allowed throw the ball in, back in the day.
Surely there is someone better in the 15, let them throw it in?


From about the age of 25 to 33 Shane Byrne was up there with the best lineout throwers in the world, strange comment.

He messed up for the Lions in 2005 in a pack that messed up most things they did but it was his throwing that got him a start ahead of Thompson in the first place.

Did he not have some stat where he held the record for most successive throws won in a row at some stage for Ireland when Keith Wood was injured 30 something??(one of the stattos here I am sure will know the answer to this).


Okay, but the point stands, no?
Surely you can see what Im saying?
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » October 15th, 2018, 12:22 pm

Always thought it was Jerry Flannery who said that...
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby ronk » October 15th, 2018, 8:13 pm

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the spoofer wrote:Ruddock was my man of the match, he was superb. Cian Healy will not enjoy the Monday review, two knock on's in the first half and a penalty.


Three knock-ons. One when we had advantage, so we didn't lose possession. To be fair, the pass for the third one wasn't great.
A couple of seasons ago Church kept dropping the ball. Last season, he was back to his best as a carrier.


You mean that time when he was battling a nerve injury in his hand that was almost career ending?
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby curates_egg » October 16th, 2018, 9:05 am

ronk wrote:
curates_egg wrote:
the spoofer wrote:Ruddock was my man of the match, he was superb. Cian Healy will not enjoy the Monday review, two knock on's in the first half and a penalty.


Three knock-ons. One when we had advantage, so we didn't lose possession. To be fair, the pass for the third one wasn't great.
A couple of seasons ago Church kept dropping the ball. Last season, he was back to his best as a carrier.


You mean that time when he was battling a nerve injury in his hand that was almost career ending?


No. That was 2015 when he couldn't play at all. It took him until last season to get back to top form though.

As a matter of interest: do you think it is ok for a rugby player to keep dropping the ball?
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby arsebiscuits1 » October 16th, 2018, 10:59 am

curates_egg wrote:No. That was 2015 when he couldn't play at all. It took him until last season to get back to top form though.

As a matter of interest: do you think it is ok for a rugby player to keep dropping the ball?


If it's followed swiftly by a kick... yes
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby curates_egg » October 16th, 2018, 11:00 am

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curates_egg wrote:No. That was 2015 when he couldn't play at all. It took him until last season to get back to top form though.

As a matter of interest: do you think it is ok for a rugby player to keep dropping the ball?


If it's followed swiftly by a kick... yes


That is something I would like to see Healy do!
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby fourthirtythree » October 16th, 2018, 11:48 am

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No. That was 2015 when he couldn't play at all. It took him until last season to get back to top form though.

As a matter of interest: do you think it is ok for a rugby player to keep dropping the ball?


The guy couldn't hold a pen and write. It took a long time for his nerves to heal after he got his injury. Sure he got back playing, but he wasn't healed fully.

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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby Dave Cahill » October 16th, 2018, 3:49 pm

There was some talk about Jimmy Gopperth last week, good to see the reception he got from the terrace at half time on Friday after he did his bit on the telly, he was genuinely delighted with it.
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby mildlyinterested » October 16th, 2018, 3:54 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:There was some talk about Jimmy Gopperth last week, good to see the reception he got from the terrace at half time on Friday after he did his bit on the telly, he was genuinely delighted with it.


Good to hear.

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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby outcast eddie » October 16th, 2018, 5:20 pm

Dave Cahill wrote:There was some talk about Jimmy Gopperth last week, good to see the reception he got from the terrace at half time on Friday after he did his bit on the telly, he was genuinely delighted with it.


He was on the same flight as me and shared a taxi to the RDS with a couple of Wasps fans. Always struck me as a decent chap who suffered greatly from MOC’s poor coaching.
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby Xanthippe » October 16th, 2018, 6:33 pm

outcast eddie wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:There was some talk about Jimmy Gopperth last week, good to see the reception he got from the terrace at half time on Friday after he did his bit on the telly, he was genuinely delighted with it.


He was on the same flight as me and shared a taxi to the RDS with a couple of Wasps fans. Always struck me as a decent chap who suffered greatly from MOC’s poor coaching.


What might have been if only MOC had played Jimmy at 12 and Mads at 10
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby Oldschoolsocks » October 16th, 2018, 7:23 pm

Xanthippe wrote:
outcast eddie wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:There was some talk about Jimmy Gopperth last week, good to see the reception he got from the terrace at half time on Friday after he did his bit on the telly, he was genuinely delighted with it.


He was on the same flight as me and shared a taxi to the RDS with a couple of Wasps fans. Always struck me as a decent chap who suffered greatly from MOC’s poor coaching.


What might have been if only MOC had played Jimmy at 12 and Mads at 10

Mads should have been a 9
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby Peg Leg » October 16th, 2018, 8:13 pm

Oldschoolsocks wrote:
Xanthippe wrote:
outcast eddie wrote:[quote="Dave Cahill"]There was some talk about Jimmy Gopperth last week, good to see the reception he got from the terrace at half time on Friday after he did his bit on the telly, he was genuinely delighted with it.


He was on the same flight as me and shared a taxi to the RDS with a couple of Wasps fans. Always struck me as a decent chap who suffered greatly from MOC’s poor coaching.


What might have been if only MOC had played Jimmy at 12 and Mads at 10

Mads should have been a 9[/quote]That would've solved the Atb, RPG, Lrip, JMcG argument. Although I'm starting to suspect that I've just listed 3 people there.
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Re: Leinster v Wasps Friday BT Sport 7.45

Postby Oldschoolsocks » October 16th, 2018, 10:48 pm

Sigh... I’m not convinced that’s an argument that ever could be solved Peg.
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