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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby IanD » December 16th, 2018, 11:17 pm

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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby riocard911 » December 16th, 2018, 11:26 pm

Riocard's pithfork: for carrying a big burning piece of turf to get the fire going and then to defend against any muppets, who want to save the bridges!!!
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Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby Serb » December 16th, 2018, 11:50 pm

leinsterforever wrote:And now ROL puts in a MOTM performance in a big European game. 12's looking a lot better overall. It's hard to see where Tomane fits in when he gets back from injury


Tomane is very much considered a first choice reserve centre for Leinster. If he were fit, I think he would be starting at 12 for a couple of these games over Christmas and would probably be 23 on the occasions he wasn’t selected.

As is always the case, his injury has opened the door for some other lads, but I still think he’s in the same position he was pre-injury.

I think he’s due back post 6 Nations (end of March / beginning of April), and a lot can change in that amount of time, but unless one of the O’Briens play out of their skin over the next few months, I’d expect him to be back starting 12 in the end of season games. He is a 17 times capped Wallaby after all.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby Peg Leg » December 17th, 2018, 9:02 am

Kane Douglas was a capped wallaby who couldn't force his way into the starting 15 regardless the number of attempts, so I wouldn't be using that as the standard.
Joe has looked good on occasion, but he'll have a fight on his hands to get the 12 shirt back.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby Serb » December 17th, 2018, 10:44 am

Peg Leg wrote:Kane Douglas was a capped wallaby who couldn't force his way into the starting 15 regardless the number of attempts, so I wouldn't be using that as the standard.


I don’t think Tomane is ever likely to be in our starting 15 to be honest. I think he’s the first choice to replace someone in the case of injuries in the centre right now.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby mildlyinterested » January 30th, 2019, 9:25 am

Might the wider leinster squad be much weaker next season? The following could all be gone next season:

Mick Kearney(28) - Signed contract in 2017
Scott Fardy(35) - Signed 2 yr contract in 2017
Sean O'Brien(32) - Signed central 3 yr contract in 2016
Noel Reid(29) - Signed contract in 2017
Dave Kearney(30) - Signed contract in 2018
Rob Kearney(33) - Signed central contract until 2019 WC.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby Oldschool » January 30th, 2019, 10:51 am

mildlyinterested wrote:Might the wider leinster squad be much weaker next season? The following could all be gone next season:

Mick Kearney(28) - Signed contract in 2017
Scott Fardy(35) - Signed 2 yr contract in 2017
Sean O'Brien(32) - Signed central 3 yr contract in 2016
Noel Reid(29) - Signed contract in 2017
Dave Kearney(30) - Signed contract in 2018
Rob Kearney(33) - Signed central contract until 2019 WC.

Mick Kearney - is this just a rumour or is at least likely.
If he's leaving it might improve our chances of keeping Fardy.
Scott Fardy - nnoooooooooo
Sean O'Brien - Doesn't affect Leinster directly however his replacement in the Ireland squad might come from Leinster's pool of talent.
Noel Reid - A year too soon.
Dave Kearney - Would be a pity but alleviate partly by the fact that we will have no restriction on selection of Lowe.
Rob Kearney - Good for another season at least injury permitting.
We have seen very little of SOM, DK and RK this season and have coped well.
For me Fardy is the key, we should be fighting very hard to keep him for another season.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby mildlyinterested » January 30th, 2019, 10:58 am

RK & DK have started 15 games this season for Leinster, 4 in europe.

If the players I listed do leave, that's a lot of experience shorn from the wider squad and more and more young players will be called upon to step up in big games.

And the Leinster squad will undoubtedly be weaker next season, which is probably inevitable, just like its weaker this season than last.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby Oldschool » January 30th, 2019, 11:07 am

mildlyinterested wrote:RK & DK have started 15 games this season for Leinster, 4 in europe.

If the players I listed do leave, that's a lot of experience shorn from the wider squad and more and more young players will be called upon to step up in big games.

And the Leinster squad will undoubtedly be weaker next season, which is probably inevitable, just like its weaker this season than last.

Not disagreeing with you at all but the players that started this season are going to be a season more experienced next season.
The remaining Pro14 games can be used to help this progress.
The performance against Scarlets at the weekend would give your argument some weight.
Our coaching ticket is having it put up to them, rumours of John Fogarty moving up, if true, won't help either.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby Jonny tight lips » January 30th, 2019, 3:48 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Might the wider leinster squad be much weaker next season? The following could all be gone next season:

Mick Kearney(28) - Signed contract in 2017
Scott Fardy(35) - Signed 2 yr contract in 2017
Sean O'Brien(32) - Signed central 3 yr contract in 2016
Noel Reid(29) - Signed contract in 2017
Dave Kearney(30) - Signed contract in 2018
Rob Kearney(33) - Signed central contract until 2019 WC.


I think we’ve cover in the back with the Two year three academy boys and Kellegher if we lose Dave and Rob.
Noel Reid would be a loss but with the o Brian’s and Tom Daly possible to come back we would be covered.
We’re well stocked at 7 if Sean were to go.
I thought Mick has had a few good games this year but I would gladly see him go if it helped justify keeping Fardo. We can’t lose Fardy next year, we are supplying the two starting second rows to the Ireland team and with so many highly rated academy players in year one and the sub academy surly it makes sense to keep him around.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby mildlyinterested » January 30th, 2019, 3:52 pm

Tom Daly won't be back.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby Jonny tight lips » January 30th, 2019, 4:00 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Tom Daly won't be back.


That’s fine is it? I still think we would be covered if we lost Noel.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby mildlyinterested » January 31st, 2019, 10:42 am

It's odd that Henshaw's contract hasn't been sorted yet, same with Healy. Both out of contract post WC.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby Peg Leg » January 31st, 2019, 10:56 am

mildlyinterested wrote:It's odd that Henshaw's contract hasn't been sorted yet, same with Healy. Both out of contract post WC.
Is it? They normally wait until all are sorted before annoumcement.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby mildlyinterested » January 31st, 2019, 11:09 am

Peg Leg wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:It's odd that Henshaw's contract hasn't been sorted yet, same with Healy. Both out of contract post WC.
Is it? They normally wait until all are sorted before annoumcement.


not when its central contracts, hence why Sexton has been announced already this season.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby ronk » February 1st, 2019, 4:58 am

Their agents would have started rumours in the press by now.

I don't expect to see any defections from front tier internationals after what happened Zebo.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby mildlyinterested » February 1st, 2019, 9:28 am

ronk wrote:Their agents would have started rumours in the press by now.

I don't expect to see any defections from front tier internationals after what happened Zebo.


I wouldnt be so sure, but we shall wait and see.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby ronk » February 9th, 2019, 6:29 am

mildlyinterested wrote:
ronk wrote:Their agents would have started rumours in the press by now.

I don't expect to see any defections from front tier internationals after what happened Zebo.


I wouldnt be so sure, but we shall wait and see.


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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby neiliog93 » February 9th, 2019, 10:52 am

I think DK's last contract was to 2020 at least.
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Re: Leinster Squad 19-20

Postby mildlyinterested » February 28th, 2019, 12:42 pm

Name(Age/Position) - Leinster Caps

Devin Toner(32/Lock) - 227
Rob Kearney(32/Fullback) - 205
Cian Healy(31/LH Prop) - 202
Fergus McFadden(32/Wing) - 174
Sean Cronin(32/Hooker) - 166
Johnny Sexton(33/Outhalf) - 156
Rhys Ruddock(28/Backrow) - 155
Jack McGrath(29/LH Prop) - 141
Dave Kearney(29/Back Three) - 131
Sean O'Brien(32/Backrow) - 122
Micahel Bent(32/TH Prop) - 117
Noel Reid(28/Centre) - 116
Luke McGrath(26/Scrumhalf) - 106
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Tadhg Furlong(26/TH Prop) - 96
James Tracy(27/Hooker) - 86
Jack Conan(26/Backrow) - 84
Ross Molony(24/Lock) - 80
Josh Van Der Flier(25/Openside) - 71
Jamison Gibson Park(27/Scrumhalf) - 67
Ross Byrne(23/Outhalf) - 64
Dan Leavy(24/Backrow) - 61
Garry Ringrose(24/Centre) - 60
Peter Dooley(25/LH Prop) - 58
Rory O'Loughlin(25/Centre) - 57
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Adam Bryne(24/Wing) - 49
Mick Kearney(27/Lcok) - 47
Andrew Porter(23/TH Prop) - 47
Ed Byrne(25/LH Prop) - 37
Max Deegan(22/Backrow) - 37
Scott Fardy(34/Lock) - 37
Bryan Byrne(25/Hooker) - 36
Jordan Larmour(21/Back Three) - 33
Barry Daly(26/Back Three) - 32
Robbie Henshaw(25/Centre) - 32
Nick McCarthy(23/Scrumhalf) - 32
James Ryan(22/Lock) - 26
James Lowe(26/Wing) - 25
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Josh Murphy(24/Blindside) - 17
Conor O'Brien(23/Centre) - 14
Caelan Doris(20/Backrow) - 11
Ciaran Frawley(21/Outhalf) - 10
Hugh O'Sullivan(21/Scrumhalf) - 10
Joe Tomane(29/Outside Back) - 9
Vakh Abdaladze(23/TH Prop)- 6
Jimmy O'Brien(22/Outside Back) - 5
Hugo Keenan(22/Back Three) - 5
Scott Penny(19/Openside) - 4
Will Connors(22/Backrow) - 3
Oisin Dowling(21/Lock) - 2
Jack Dunne(21/Lock) - 2
Paddy Patterson(20/Scrumhalf) - 2
Gavin Mullin(21/Centre) - 1
Jack Kelly(21/Back Three) - 1
Ronan Kelleher(21/Hooker) - 1

Uncapped
Jack Aungier(20/TH Prop)
Michael Milne(20/LH Prop)
Dan Sheehan(20/Hooker)
Ryan Baird(19/Lock)
Harry Byrne(19/Outhalf)
David Hawkshaw(19/Outhalf)
Tommy O'Brien(20/Outside Back)
Michael Silvester(20/Back Three)
Aaron O'Sullivan(19/Back Three)
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