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Deegan-Doris-Josh Watch

Postby backrower8 » January 7th, 2019, 12:23 pm

Doris (1m 93cm 106kg; 7 caps this season; 4 starts at 8; 3 as sub)
Deegan (1m 93cm & 109kg (doubt that) 11 season caps; 3 starts at 8; 2 at 6; 6 as sub)
Josh Murphy (1m 96cm &106 kg; 6 season caps, all at 6) stats to date this season:

Doris/ Deegan/ Murphy
Minutes 352/ 481/ 344
Tries 1 / 3 / 0
Try Assists 0 / 1 / 0
Carries 61/ 73 / 61
Metres 161/ 183 / 91
MperCarry 2.6/ 2.5/ 1.5
Clean Break 2/ 2 / 0
Passes 11/ 20 / 9
Offload 1/ 1 / 1
Turnover 2/ 3 / 1
T/o Against 4/ 4 / 5
Tackles 63/ 73 / 47
Missed Ts 3/ 4 / 2
Pens Against 2/ 5 / 3
Lineouts 12/ 8 / 7
L/o Steal 0/ 0 / 1

Who thinks Deegan is losing the battle and should be put on loan? :roll:

Looks pretty even between him & Doris to me. Deegan has X-factor in his hands/distribution. Needs a bit more power close in.

Josh Murphy had a return to form against Ulster but is not as much of a playmaker as the other two.
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Re: Deegan-Doris-Josh Watch

Postby ronk » January 9th, 2019, 9:32 am

Josh Murphy isnt meant to be a playmaker. He's a good and useful player but suffers because of the dynamic other 2 who have naturally better highlights reels.

It's nice to have so much talent.
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Re: Deegan-Doris-Josh Watch

Postby mildlyinterested » January 9th, 2019, 9:54 am

Murphy doesn't have the same talent level as Deegan/Doris. Which is no slight as they both are uber-talents in irish terms.
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Re: Deegan-Doris-Josh Watch

Postby Theleinsterlad » January 9th, 2019, 1:14 pm

Murphy is a 6 and hopefully will follow in the progression Ruddock has done, different skill set and grunt work to that if Doris and Deegan. I personally think That while the stats don’t clearly show it that Deegan is the better of the two between Doris and himself. deeg’s has a good couple of recent games and done key yards and ball handling skills that kept moves going to Leinster scoring tries.

Would be mad to let Deegan go
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Re: Deegan-Doris-Josh Watch

Postby mildlyinterested » January 9th, 2019, 2:12 pm

Murphy doesn't have capacity to be Ruddock, who can play all 3 backrow positions to a pro 14 level if not higher.

Doris should be groomed as Ruddock's successor IMO, with the ability to cover 8 too.
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Re: Deegan-Doris-Josh Watch

Postby suisse » January 9th, 2019, 2:31 pm

Some of Deegan's handling skills on Saturday were ridiculously good.
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Re: Deegan-Doris-Josh Watch

Postby leinster23 » January 9th, 2019, 6:11 pm

mildlyinterested wrote:Murphy doesn't have capacity to be Ruddock, who can play all 3 backrow positions to a pro 14 level if not higher.

Doris should be groomed as Ruddock's successor IMO, with the ability to cover 8 too.


I'd say much higher than Pro14 level. In another era (or if he was English) he'd have 60+ caps and could have been Ireland captain. Just unlucky to play at a time where the Irish backrow stocks have been at their all time peak.
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Re: Deegan-Doris-Josh Watch

Postby ronk » January 9th, 2019, 6:40 pm

leinster23 wrote:
mildlyinterested wrote:Murphy doesn't have capacity to be Ruddock, who can play all 3 backrow positions to a pro 14 level if not higher.

Doris should be groomed as Ruddock's successor IMO, with the ability to cover 8 too.


I'd say much higher than Pro14 level. In another era (or if he was English) he'd have 60+ caps and could have been Ireland captain. Just unlucky to play at a time where the Irish backrow stocks have been at their all time peak.


Kinda like Quinlan and Easterby.
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