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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby R-Dog » January 25th, 2019, 2:12 pm

tomthefan wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:Fuk conferences, like seriously, they are shit. I no longer give a sh!t about half the teams in our league and a lot of the time im not sure which teams I am meant to give a sh!t about.


Yes, I'd have my doubts too about the direction the Pro14 is taking. The SA teams have added nothing so far and yet the talk is of further expansion.



I'm sure they have added some €€€
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby Peg Leg » January 25th, 2019, 4:07 pm

paddyor wrote:
Peg Leg wrote:Fuk conferences, like seriously, they are shit. I no longer give a sh!t about half the teams in our league and a lot of the time im not sure which teams I am meant to give a sh!t about.

In a combined league you wouldn't give a damn about half the teams either though. We'd be cantering to a home qf anyway even if we finished 2nd.
Grand but the other conference is a whole other webpage. I can't having with that type of unnecessary navigation. They should default to a combined league table and just have 2 different font colours.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » January 29th, 2019, 8:59 am

Scrumhalf minutes this season

Jamison Gibson Park(9+6) = 732
Luke McGrath(9+2) = 645
Hugh O'Sullivan(1+7) = 145
Nick McCarthy(1+3) = 72
Paddy Patterson(0+1) = 12
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby ronk » February 14th, 2019, 8:00 am

McGrath on the mend. Should be back and ready for Ulster

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 13397.html
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby Jonny tight lips » February 14th, 2019, 9:03 am

That’s great news, I’d still take some time to develop O Sullivan over the next three games with McCarthy leaving at the end of the summer. Unfortunately I don’t see any reason for Nick to get another run out in blue unless we get stung with more injuries.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » February 14th, 2019, 10:09 am

Luke McGrath on Luke Fitz's podcast was a good listen.

In other news nice to see Cormac Foley getting a start for Ireland u20 last week, another player converting from playing a different position in his final year in school(12)
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » February 14th, 2019, 11:03 am

Interesting to see Leinster are running Underage Scrumhalf workshops around the province with Adam Griggs involved. There was one on last night in Enniscorthy.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » February 26th, 2019, 11:32 am

Leinster Scrumhalves Academy & below

Academy

Hugh O'Sullivan(21/Belvedere/Clontarf)
Paddy Patterson(20/Blackrock/UCD)

Academy prospects
James Kenny(U21/Gonzaga/Lansdowne)
Cormac Foley(U20/St. Gerards/St. Marys)

Sub-Academy prospects
Jack Connolly(Gonzaga)
Adam McEvoy(St. Marys)
Shane Murphy(Skerries RFC/UCD)
Ben Murphy(Pres Bray)
Rob Gilsenan(St. Michaels)
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » May 7th, 2019, 7:47 am

So Leinster approached Craig Casey to see if he had any interest in switching provinces, which I have no problem with as he is one hell of a player and if Munster are going to keep trying to take our young talent we need to keep them honest with theirs.

But I wonder what that means for our current young scrumhalves.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby tingman » May 7th, 2019, 7:51 am

Great young player - and maybe this could act as a remainder to the others that raiding our cookie jar might
have consequences.
With McCarthy on his way - its hardly a ringing endorsement of HOS and Patterson though.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » May 7th, 2019, 8:02 am

tingman wrote:Great young player - and maybe this could act as a remainder to the others that raiding our cookie jar might
have consequences.
With McCarthy on his way - its hardly a ringing endorsement of HOS and Patterson though.


Hard to know, both need game time to develop their decision making.. which will only happen by playing a lot and learning from mistakes.

Casey seems to be the rare young 9, whose decision making looks to be fairly developed for his age/experience while also having excellent skills.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » May 7th, 2019, 8:27 am

Leinster scrumhalves next season, age as of start of next season:

Senior
Jamison Gibson Park(27)
Luke McGrath(26/St. Michaels/UCD)
Hugh O'Sullivan(21/Belvedere/Clontarf)
Academy
Patrick Patterson(20/Blackrock/UCD) - Year 2
Cormac Foley(19/St. Gerards/St. Marys) - Year 1?
Sub-Academy
Jack Connolly(U20/Gonzaga)
Adam McEvoy(U20/St. Marys)
Rob Gilsenan(U19/St. Michaels)
Ben Murphy(U19/Pres Bray)
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby wixfjord » May 7th, 2019, 11:10 am

If we’re happy enough for Leo at al to target Munster academy players then I assume the same will be said when Munster target ours?

Casey would’ve been a great coup, albeit I can see why he wouldn’t want to move to be stuck behind McGrath & JGP.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » May 7th, 2019, 11:13 am

wixfjord wrote:If we’re happy enough for Leo at al to target Munster academy players then I assume the same will be said when Munster target ours?

Casey would’ve been a great coup, albeit I can see why he wouldn’t want to move to be stuck behind McGrath & JGP.


Munster and the other provinces have been targeting leinsters for years, only fair that they get same treatment.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby wixfjord » May 7th, 2019, 11:21 am

mildlyinterested wrote:
wixfjord wrote:If we’re happy enough for Leo at al to target Munster academy players then I assume the same will be said when Munster target ours?

Casey would’ve been a great coup, albeit I can see why he wouldn’t want to move to be stuck behind McGrath & JGP.


Munster and the other provinces have been targeting leinsters for years, only fair that they get same treatment.


So now that we’re doing it, then to complain when others do it in future would be hypocritical right?

I mean fair is fair as you say...
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » May 7th, 2019, 11:21 am

wixfjord wrote:If we’re happy enough for Leo at al to target Munster academy players then I assume the same will be said when Munster target ours?

Casey would’ve been a great coup, albeit I can see why he wouldn’t want to move to be stuck behind McGrath & JGP.


Agree with you but it would be very annoying if Mathewson is allowed to extend his contract again. I still believe that Murray will end up taking a break after the world cup, thought the fact that he went off with 15 minutes to go on Saturday when the game was still in the balance said a lot. That said, his form has definitely improved.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » May 7th, 2019, 11:25 am

Did you see me complaining on here when Connacht offered Doris and Connors contracts last season?
Or when Munster offered Eoghan Clarke an academy contract last season? Or when they tried to poach Andrew Porter or Dan Leavy when they were in the academy?

No.

A player who is out of contract at the end of the season is fair game.

Now the IRFU moving players mid-contract, that's another matter.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby wixfjord » May 7th, 2019, 11:27 am

mildlyinterested wrote:Did you see me complaining on here when Connacht offered Doris and Connors contracts last season?
Or when Munster offered Eoghan Clarke an academy contract last season? Or when they tried to poach Andrew Porter or Dan Leavy when they were in the academy?

No.

A player who is out of contract at the end of the season is fair game.

Now the IRFU moving players mid-contract, that's another matter.


Cool I’m just clarifying where we stand.

Sounds like it’s open season now with all provinces targeting other team’s academy guys.

It’s good that we won’t be seeing any more complaining about it.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby mildlyinterested » May 7th, 2019, 11:30 am

I'm sure some people will complain about it, but if an academy player at leinster thinks he is better off at munster then he hasn't been paying attention to each provinces record of giving game time to young players.
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Re: Leinster Scrumhalves

Postby wixfjord » May 7th, 2019, 11:41 am

mildlyinterested wrote:I'm sure some people will complain about it, but if an academy player at leinster thinks he is better off at munster then he hasn't been paying attention to each provinces record of giving game time to young players.


I’m sure some people will, and I’m also sure some people will forget it very quickly when the next story of Munster ‘poaching’ comes around. Let’s hope not…
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