Sorry But that’s cr@p If the AR had a positive view of the incident , he would have recommended a YC / RC. To Clancy... in fact it would have been his duty to do so...rooster wrote:Not surprised, AR had a clear view, as did about half of the West side supporters. It was seriously stupid and not something I would have thought he would actually do, end of season for him now and he may hope it is a number of weeks rather than matches he gets the ban for.wixfjord wrote:Ferg cited.
Stupidity personified from him. He's nailed on to get a ban that will rule him out for the season, and we could really have done with him as an option with Byrne and Daly likely out too.
Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
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Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
Not defending him but what got him going, I suspect, was an illegal legs above the horizontal tackle on him by an Ulster player a few minutes earlier.wixfjord wrote:Ferg cited.
Stupidity personified from him. He's nailed on to get a ban that will rule him out for the season, and we could really have done with him as an option with Byrne and Daly likely out too.
A red mist reaction which he's old enough and experienced enough to ride thru.
Was definitely worth a look at by the TMO and citing officer.
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Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
I would say Ferg was very psyched to perform because he is out of contract, has played so little and is raging against the fading of the light.
Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
For those who may not have seen the tackle referenced by OldschoolOldschool wrote:Not defending him but what got him going, I suspect, was an illegal legs above the horizontal tackle on him by an Ulster player a few minutes earlier.wixfjord wrote:Ferg cited.
Stupidity personified from him. He's nailed on to get a ban that will rule him out for the season, and we could really have done with him as an option with Byrne and Daly likely out too.
A red mist reaction which he's old enough and experienced enough to ride thru.
Was definitely worth a look at by the TMO and citing officer.
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Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
Hahahaha, wise up
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Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
Forgot about that. It was lucky he was able to get his hand down first, otherwise he was headfirst into the ground.Oldschool wrote:Not defending him but what got him going, I suspect, was an illegal legs above the horizontal tackle on him by an Ulster player a few minutes earlier.wixfjord wrote:Ferg cited.
Stupidity personified from him. He's nailed on to get a ban that will rule him out for the season, and we could really have done with him as an option with Byrne and Daly likely out too.
A red mist reaction which he's old enough and experienced enough to ride thru.
Was definitely worth a look at by the TMO and citing officer.
He still needs to leave that sort of thing up to the officials (vain hope I know for that game!).
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Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
I'd be quiet if I were you. You deserved a ban for your scurrilous accusation.Jackie Brown wrote:Hahahaha, wise up
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Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
I was away for the game and only saw a recording of it last night.
I thought that Ferg played really well, and was particularly impressed with the way he was able to keep on powering forward through contact. He unfortunately has nobody to blame if he gets a ban, he lost the rag momentarily. He was obviously fired up for the match and for a chance to play himself into the matchday squad for the biggest games of the season - it showed in a good way in how abrasively he carried, but he strayed over the edge for a second. If he misses out, it's a heavy price to pay.
I've huge time for Ferg, so I'll be disappointed if he gets a ban, but the rational side of me can't complain.
I thought that Ferg played really well, and was particularly impressed with the way he was able to keep on powering forward through contact. He unfortunately has nobody to blame if he gets a ban, he lost the rag momentarily. He was obviously fired up for the match and for a chance to play himself into the matchday squad for the biggest games of the season - it showed in a good way in how abrasively he carried, but he strayed over the edge for a second. If he misses out, it's a heavy price to pay.
I've huge time for Ferg, so I'll be disappointed if he gets a ban, but the rational side of me can't complain.
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Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
It's a pity that the Pro14 provide such bad highlights packages on youtube. Only 2:16 long - maybe down to the broadcasters- but about half of that is the teams/crowd celebrating the tries/win.
There's no build up to JOB's try, they only have from the final pass
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There's no build up to JOB's try, they only have from the final pass
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Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
Not cr@p AR said it was a headbutt to Clancy, he was the one who decided to check and not take his word for italanair wrote:Sorry But that’s cr@p If the AR had a positive view of the incident , he would have recommended a YC / RC. To Clancy... in fact it would have been his duty to do so...rooster wrote:Not surprised, AR had a clear view, as did about half of the West side supporters. It was seriously stupid and not something I would have thought he would actually do, end of season for him now and he may hope it is a number of weeks rather than matches he gets the ban for.wixfjord wrote:Ferg cited.
Stupidity personified from him. He's nailed on to get a ban that will rule him out for the season, and we could really have done with him as an option with Byrne and Daly likely out too.
Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
Missed that. Probably for the best!the spoofer wrote:I'd be quiet if I were you. You deserved a ban for your scurrilous accusation.Jackie Brown wrote:Hahahaha, wise up
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Would agree with that, but what with that late knee after he dotted down last season laid him off for a long time, and probabaly scuppered any chance of going to Japan you can see why he did it. I don't justify it. A loaf is about a dirty thing you can do, but he's a competitor nearing the end of his career and a still hungry one at thatOldschool wrote:Not defending him but what got him going, I suspect, was an illegal legs above the horizontal tackle on him by an Ulster player a few minutes earlier.wixfjord wrote:Ferg cited.
Stupidity personified from him. He's nailed on to get a ban that will rule him out for the season, and we could really have done with him as an option with Byrne and Daly likely out too.
A red mist reaction which he's old enough and experienced enough to ride thru.
Was definitely worth a look at by the TMO and citing officer.
Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
It wasn't the late challenge from Steff Evans in the semi-final last year that caused Ferg's injury, he pulled his hamstring as he was running in for the try. That's not to excuse Evans for his shithousery but it wasn't the cause of the injury.RoboProp wrote:Would agree with that, but what with that late knee after he dotted down last season laid him off for a long time, and probabaly scuppered any chance of going to Japan you can see why he did it. I don't justify it. A loaf is about a dirty thing you can do, but he's a competitor nearing the end of his career and a still hungry one at thatOldschool wrote:Not defending him but what got him going, I suspect, was an illegal legs above the horizontal tackle on him by an Ulster player a few minutes earlier.wixfjord wrote:Ferg cited.
Stupidity personified from him. He's nailed on to get a ban that will rule him out for the season, and we could really have done with him as an option with Byrne and Daly likely out too.
A red mist reaction which he's old enough and experienced enough to ride thru.
Was definitely worth a look at by the TMO and citing officer.
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Re: Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
Sorry But that’s cr@p If the AR had a positive view of the incident , he would have recommended a YC / RC. To Clancy... in fact it would have been his duty to do so...[/quote]Not cr@p AR said it was a headbutt to Clancy, he was the one who decided to check and not take his word for it[/quote]
I beg to differ.... I repeat... if he was positive he would have recomended that Clancy give a YC / RC ... and he didnt
I beg to differ.... I repeat... if he was positive he would have recomended that Clancy give a YC / RC ... and he didnt
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We'll know when the written decision is published, the Pro14 ones are excellent, listing, for example, all the evidentiary inputs
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Leinster @ Ulster, Sat 27 Apr 17:15 KO
Just noticed this now. Whatever about Clancy: being worse than him is like trying to win a slow bicycle race- based on her performances as AR, I think Neville is no better than average really.rooster wrote:Joy is a far better ref than Clancy, she actually knows the rules of the game and adheres to them and if more refs did the same they wouldn't have to do these continual changes and tweaks.
Tight contest and both sides infringed far more than they were penalised for, Leinster missed a penalty advantage late on in the match which was a 50:50 kick for goal, played on and gained ground after 5 phases lost ball and lost advantage, Ulster had done the same earlier and same happened so at least he was consistent, now whether that came out the same on TV I dont know I was just following his arm signals.
She sees some stuff early on and that becomes her focus- but misses or ignores other laws. So she was very hot on offside against us last week, but it was obvious that Ulster were equally at fault there. Hardly a peep on that.
The previous week against Glasgow she decided not to bother referring offside at all. When we were attacking they were usually literally metres over the back foot line. It eventually became so ridiculous she did bring it to the refs attention on one occasion.
She’s a young referee and needs time- but let’s not start over praising her.
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