Pro14 Final Glasgow v Leinster 18.30 Sat 25th May

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Re: Pro14 Final Glasgow v Leinster 18.30 Sat 25th May

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TrapperChamonix wrote:Outrageous suggestion that Sexton trys to kick Physio. He clearly has cramp in his right leg (continues to have treatment as hogg is being treated) and what he is actually doing is getting himself clear of Hogg so the Physio has unfettered access to Hogg. Quite happy that people think it's a Red Card (I did too). But to claim that Sexton trys to kick the physio is outrageous.
I'm guessing the commentator is Kellog?
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kermischocolate wrote:
blockhead wrote: Yep biggest crowd ever for a Pro14 final. Congrats to all involved. To the Pro14 and the rugby fans in Scotland, well done.
Hear is the BBC Radio Scotland commentary on the Kearney non red.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfvRabqeYJU
The only thing I'd disagree with on that commentary is it wasn't Kearney who kicked the Physio, it was Sexton.
Yeah. The only issue I have with that commentary was how unprofessional it was. However you speak to your audience i suppose.

Kearney should have received a straight red. Fraser Brown should have received a yellow. One would have resulted in a 10 minute bin, the other a 15.

I assume the Scottish commentators believed the call on Brown was correct.
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Healy's try was our 99th in the Pro14 this season. More than anyone else. Could be a record, and probably is TBH.
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Re: Pro14 Final Glasgow v Leinster 18.30 Sat 25th May

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by Oldschool

Good luck to SOB and it was a great gesture by the team to leave him "stuck" with the cup for "lap of honour".
Best of luck to him.
Jack McGrath too deserves our gratitude, good luck Jack.
Honestly this left a bad taste in my mouth that we didn't include Jack McGrath as well. Maybe they knew about the injury and Jack McGrath was ok with it but I don't consider it a classy move at all.
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I was a big fan of McGrath but he was never special in the way that Seanie was.

SOB was a special player, a world class great for a long time.
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blockhead wrote: Yep biggest crowd ever for a Pro14 final. Congrats to all involved. To the Pro14 and the rugby fans in Scotland, well done.
Hear is the BBC Radio Scotland commentary on the Kearney non red.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfvRabqeYJU
3 Glasgow players grabbing Kearney on the ground, and 2 more queuing up. Enter Porter!
To suggest Kearney (actually Sexton) kicked the physio was quite ridiculous.

On the matter of whether it was a yellow or red card. Isn't the ruling that if he lands on neck/head it's red, otherwise it's yellow?
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Good way to end what has been a very good season with some silverware.

The saying always is that the team take learnings away from games no matter if they win or lose.

If we as fans can try and do something similar let it be that we stop any booing of players/officials at the RDS. From what I understand the constant booing of anything and everything is a 'culture' thing (according to Glasgow fans forum anyway). To me it is bad sportsmanship and it is slipping into games in Ireland (Thomond/Ravenhill/RDS/AVIVA). Let it not become part of our culture it is pathetic.

Well done to the traveling Leinster fans making their presence felt in awful conditions on Saturday :happy clapper:
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Laighin Break wrote:
blockhead wrote: Yep biggest crowd ever for a Pro14 final. Congrats to all involved. To the Pro14 and the rugby fans in Scotland, well done.
Hear is the BBC Radio Scotland commentary on the Kearney non red.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfvRabqeYJU
3 Glasgow players grabbing Kearney on the ground, and 2 more queuing up. Enter Porter!
To suggest Kearney (actually Sexton) kicked the physio was quite ridiculous.

On the matter of whether it was a yellow or red card. Isn't the ruling that if he lands on neck/head it's red, otherwise it's yellow?
Good hand off by the physio on Sexton though wtf
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sunshiner1 wrote:
by Oldschool

Good luck to SOB and it was a great gesture by the team to leave him "stuck" with the cup for "lap of honour".
Best of luck to him.
Jack McGrath too deserves our gratitude, good luck Jack.
Honestly this left a bad taste in my mouth that we didn't include Jack McGrath as well. Maybe they knew about the injury and Jack McGrath was ok with it but I don't consider it a classy move at all.
Why would you give special treatment to someone who walked away half way through their contract? That would be stupid.
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the spoofer wrote:
sunshiner1 wrote:
by Oldschool

Good luck to SOB and it was a great gesture by the team to leave him "stuck" with the cup for "lap of honour".
Best of luck to him.
Jack McGrath too deserves our gratitude, good luck Jack.
Honestly this left a bad taste in my mouth that we didn't include Jack McGrath as well. Maybe they knew about the injury and Jack McGrath was ok with it but I don't consider it a classy move at all.
Why would you give special treatment to someone who walked away half way through their contract? That would be stupid.
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the spoofer wrote:
sunshiner1 wrote:
by Oldschool

Good luck to SOB and it was a great gesture by the team to leave him "stuck" with the cup for "lap of honour".
Best of luck to him.
Jack McGrath too deserves our gratitude, good luck Jack.
Honestly this left a bad taste in my mouth that we didn't include Jack McGrath as well. Maybe they knew about the injury and Jack McGrath was ok with it but I don't consider it a classy move at all.
Why would you give special treatment to someone who walked away half way through their contract? That would be stupid.
That's at least open to interpretation.
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Kearney's view was occluded by escort runners in much the same manner as Brown found himself looking at McGrath's back in the first half. I don't think he even saw Hogg until he was propelling himself upwards. Kearney is responsible for his own actions but it's hard to make a good decision when you don't have all the information.
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I taught that was a great match up. Glasgow really threw the kitchen sink at us in the first 1/4, but we handled it well. Power rugby after that, a fair ref and we would have strangled the game.

Nigel has had his day, at least he did not effect the outcome but it was not for the want of trying.
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Just re-watching again there. Rhys had an absolutely huge second half. Watch the 5 mins before Kearney's yellow for eg. Made an huge tackle on 74 too to stop Horne breaking through.

Also thought Lowe didn't do Ringer any favours for that break. Took away space and allowed Hogg to cover the two men. Did well to hold the pass though.

Another thing, Conan's control from 8 has improved hugely. The scrum we got in the second half in our own 10 metre line that they got a nudge on was a great example.
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olaf the fat wrote:I taught that was a great match up. Glasgow really threw the kitchen sink at us in the first 1/4, but we handled it well. Power rugby after that, a fair ref and we would have strangled the game.

Nigel has had his day, at least he did not effect the outcome but it was not for the want of trying.
agree about nigel. he is still a cut above a few others but he does tend to be, by coincidence perhaps, involved in games where late decisions decided the result. it is as if he engineers a dramatic finish. the 42 phases in paris last year springs to mind...we could have had a few penalties, as could the french, at the breakdown during that epic phase play, but, he let things slide for the dramatic finish. At least it seemed so. ditto for his (harsh imo) conversion retake decision after the last minute try in dublin by the all blacks in 2016.

In the same breath...if wales don't make the WC final..I still think he maybe the best choice as ref.
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Well played Leinster you are a credit to the Pro14 which is a way better league than given credit for.
I'm looking for excuses so going to say the weather tipped it in your favour. Ironic that a team from the west of Scotland
favour dry conditions but there you go. Must have been hard on the wallet after Newcastle and with the football on same day not that
easy to travel & get digs so kudos for those that attended.
I thought the venue was great from a viewing perspective but the rest of the organisation could have been better. Again the weather didn't help.
Excellent atmosphere in the ground, yeah i know the boos bugged you but if you listen there was quiet up until about 5 mins into Sexton's kick prep :wink:
From the early days at Hughenden in front of around 1000 hardy souls to 47k at Celtic Park is a serious result for the Warriors.
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MylesNaGapoleen wrote:
olaf the fat wrote:I taught that was a great match up. Glasgow really threw the kitchen sink at us in the first 1/4, but we handled it well. Power rugby after that, a fair ref and we would have strangled the game.

Nigel has had his day, at least he did not effect the outcome but it was not for the want of trying.
agree about nigel. he is still a cut above a few others but he does tend to be, by coincidence perhaps, involved in games where late decisions decided the result. it is as if he engineers a dramatic finish. the 42 phases in paris last year springs to mind...we could have had a few penalties, as could the french, at the breakdown during that epic phase play, but, he let things slide for the dramatic finish. At least it seemed so. ditto for his (harsh imo) conversion retake decision after the last minute try in dublin by the all blacks in 2016.

In the same breath...if wales don't make the WC final..I still think he maybe the best choice as ref.
I really think people are being a little unfair on Nigel for this match. It was far from his worst game this Season and I think ( apart from the Offside line , that none of the Elite Refs seem to Police) that he had a reasonable game all round. Agree with is No card decision on Brown , and also agree on the YC for Kearney ( though again , other refs might have viewed differently)
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I'd agree that Nigel doesn't really deserve much criticism, both cards were borderline and they evened out. The non-offside line is annoying and his refusal to penalise Fagerson for five minutes and then willfully blowing up Byrne in his first scrum was amazing but other than that not much to complain about.
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leinster23 wrote:his refusal to penalise Fagerson for five minutes and then willfully blowing up Byrne in his first scrum was amazing
The funny thing is absolutely no one here was surprised. I was convinced it was going to end that way a scrum or two ahead of that one.
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Logorrhea wrote:
leinster23 wrote:his refusal to penalise Fagerson for five minutes and then willfully blowing up Byrne in his first scrum was amazing
The funny thing is absolutely no one here was surprised. I was convinced it was going to end that way a scrum or two ahead of that one.
Exactly. The only surprising thing is that the Glasgow team and fans seemed to assume that Leinster should be penalised earlier for Fagerson’s illegality.

Head shaking doesn’t do it justice.


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