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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby hugonaut » January 27th, 2020, 2:08 pm

[quote="curates_egg"]Three Leinster players on the longlist for player of the season.
Unsure how Furlong made it on there (and how he keeps making French XVs of the round).
He's clearly a class player but this is definitely his quietest season for us. Some would argue he's not even tighthead of the year at Leinster. Not me, but still.

Big rep on Furlong. Third year in a row that he has made it on to the long list.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby curates_egg » January 27th, 2020, 2:14 pm

hugonaut wrote:
curates_egg wrote:Three Leinster players on the longlist for player of the season.
Unsure how Furlong made it on there (and how he keeps making French XVs of the round).
He's clearly a class player but this is definitely his quietest season for us. Some would argue he's not even tighthead of the year at Leinster. Not me, but still.

Big rep on Furlong. Third year in a row that he has made it on to the long list.


He's made the Midi Olympique XV of the week a number of times this season...and I could never really figure out why. He has been pretty good, but no real outstanding games.
In terms of 'player of the year', stand out performers in our pack, I would have Ryan and Van Der Flier as my nominees.

Vakatawa way ahead of the pack for me though.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby paddyor » January 27th, 2020, 2:42 pm

Not a single Saracens player......

Don't think Radradra should be there either as the CC just isn't the same level.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » January 27th, 2020, 2:53 pm

paddyor wrote:Not a single Saracens player......


Noticed that too. Can't think of any outstanding candidates for them but it's like they don't exist anymore.

Vakatawa miles better than everyone else IMO. Moala has been the one constantly briliant player for Clermont and got them out of a few holes as well. I think Cooney has the biggest buzz around him though, can see him getting it. Kaino has been brilliant as well. As much as Toulouse play brilliant rugby he's been crucial in laying a platform for them.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby Xanthippe » January 27th, 2020, 2:58 pm

paddyor wrote:Not a single Saracens player......


Or Saints - just saying!!!
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby curates_egg » January 27th, 2020, 3:13 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Vakatawa miles better than everyone else IMO. Moala has been the one constantly briliant player for Clermont and got them out of a few holes as well. I think Cooney has the biggest buzz around him though, can see him getting it. Kaino has been brilliant as well. As much as Toulouse play brilliant rugby he's been crucial in laying a platform for them.


In the 10 years of its existence it has only once gone to a player that didn't play in the final...and it's 10 years since that happened. So, I can't see either Moala or Cooney getting it.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby LeRouxIsPHat » January 27th, 2020, 3:16 pm

Fair point. In that case...Richie McCaw :lol:
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby curates_egg » January 27th, 2020, 3:34 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Fair point. In that case...Richie McCaw :lol:


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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby domhnallj » January 27th, 2020, 4:24 pm

LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Fair point. In that case...Richie McCaw :lol:


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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby Xanthippe » January 27th, 2020, 5:42 pm

curates_egg wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Vakatawa miles better than everyone else IMO. Moala has been the one constantly briliant player for Clermont and got them out of a few holes as well. I think Cooney has the biggest buzz around him though, can see him getting it. Kaino has been brilliant as well. As much as Toulouse play brilliant rugby he's been crucial in laying a platform for them.


In the 10 years of its existence it has only once gone to a player that didn't play in the final...and it's 10 years since that happened. So, I can't see either Moala or Cooney getting it.


And that first award in 2010 wasn't player of the year - it was actually given to the player who had made the biggest contribution to European rugby in the first 15 YEARS of the competition. To be fair it was an amazing achievement for ROG to be honoured
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby Serb » January 27th, 2020, 6:01 pm

curates_egg wrote:In the 10 years of its existence it has only once gone to a player that didn't play in the final...and it's 10 years since that happened. So, I can't see either Moala or Cooney getting it.


Writing Clermont off already? They’re home to Racing then home to Saracens in the semis. Have a good shot at the final.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby ronk » January 27th, 2020, 6:49 pm

Serb wrote:
curates_egg wrote:In the 10 years of its existence it has only once gone to a player that didn't play in the final...and it's 10 years since that happened. So, I can't see either Moala or Cooney getting it.


Writing Clermont off already? They’re home to Racing then home to Saracens in the semis. Have a good shot at the final.


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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby curates_egg » January 27th, 2020, 10:32 pm

Xanthippe wrote:
curates_egg wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Vakatawa miles better than everyone else IMO. Moala has been the one constantly briliant player for Clermont and got them out of a few holes as well. I think Cooney has the biggest buzz around him though, can see him getting it. Kaino has been brilliant as well. As much as Toulouse play brilliant rugby he's been crucial in laying a platform for them.


In the 10 years of its existence it has only once gone to a player that didn't play in the final...and it's 10 years since that happened. So, I can't see either Moala or Cooney getting it.


And that first award in 2010 wasn't player of the year - it was actually given to the player who had made the biggest contribution to European rugby in the first 15 YEARS of the competition. To be fair it was an amazing achievement for ROG to be honoured


You’re too nice Xan :wink:

I’d describe it as a cop out.
I thought they created the award, then decided to give it to him with that explanation, instead of choosing an actual player of the year. At least, that’s how I remember it in my one-eyed memory.
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Re: Champions Cup 2020

Postby ronk » January 27th, 2020, 10:47 pm

Xanthippe wrote:
curates_egg wrote:
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Vakatawa miles better than everyone else IMO. Moala has been the one constantly briliant player for Clermont and got them out of a few holes as well. I think Cooney has the biggest buzz around him though, can see him getting it. Kaino has been brilliant as well. As much as Toulouse play brilliant rugby he's been crucial in laying a platform for them.


In the 10 years of its existence it has only once gone to a player that didn't play in the final...and it's 10 years since that happened. So, I can't see either Moala or Cooney getting it.



And that first award in 2010 wasn't player of the year - it was actually given to the player who had made the biggest contribution to European rugby in the first 15 YEARS of the competition. To be fair it was an amazing achievement for ROG to be honoured


Fulsome praise, to be fair.
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