Negative i know but i believe that to be to be the truth right now.... could end up like another sham tour...
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I disagree. What was in it for the Lions was to stake a place for the first test. Make someone else work harder then you. Put yourself in a position for the selectors to have a selection headache. If there are 15 new starters on Wednesday, they know even a capable performance will push them ahead of their rvials for that jersey. Also, the Lions have 20 days to prepare for a side that demolished the Cheifs in the S14 Final, and will provide the bulk of the Springboks XV. Throw in a few Sharkes, then Burger and Smit. Scrum half looks problem, going up against FdP. A competitive defensive line out looks a proble, going up against VM and BB. And a genuine rival to JH for the 8 jersey, looks a problem.Dave Cahill wrote:People are completely over-reacting. The Lions played poorly, but won, against a side that would have died for a win yesterday. There was nothing in this game for the Lions, just a fixture that had to be fulfilled. Neither the Boks nor the Lions will pay any attention to the game when the big games roll 'round.
I found it quite worrying that nobody except Byrne put in a big performance or made an attempt to claim a test spot. As for "nothing in it for the Lions", the Lions tours are not just about the tests.Dave Cahill wrote:People are completely over-reacting. The Lions played poorly, but won, against a side that would have died for a win yesterday. There was nothing in this game for the Lions, just a fixture that had to be fulfilled. Neither the Boks nor the Lions will pay any attention to the game when the big games roll 'round.
No, but they aren't about makey-uppy teams either. Some of the players know that they are stuck on for the tests and some know that they'll not be near them. What McGeechan has to do is frighten a few of the guy who are in the comfort zone and boost the confidence of a few of the dirt trackers by making some hard calls against the S14 sidesDanthefan wrote:I found it quite worrying that nobody except Byrne put in a big performance or made an attempt to claim a test spot. As for "nothing in it for the Lions", the Lions tours are not just about the tests.Dave Cahill wrote:People are completely over-reacting. The Lions played poorly, but won, against a side that would have died for a win yesterday. There was nothing in this game for the Lions, just a fixture that had to be fulfilled. Neither the Boks nor the Lions will pay any attention to the game when the big games roll 'round.
Paudy wrote:Lads this is what people were sayin about Leinster before the Munster match. Ironic considering what the Lions turned up with against Golden Lions, probably draws a few parallels.... I couldn't believe this shite in New Zealand, even though they were right, there was no gaurantee there'd be a whitewash until the first game.
My head agrees, on paper the Lions look weaker. But on paper Mal and Leo would not be given a chance against O'Connell and O'Callaghan, but we know they both pulled out a monster performance.......so who knows?Comer Toes wrote:Paudy wrote:
I think the Lions have a great chance to sneak the first test against what might be a slightly rusty Saffa side but can see the Boks winning the series 2-1. Hooker, 2nd Row and back row just don’t look strong enough versus their opposite numbers to prevail.
And McGeechan has done it before. Its only 2 games gone so far, plenty have put their hands up. Also something that wasn't mentioned about the 1st match - altitude. Could explain alot about the first performance.AidanSloan wrote:My head agrees, on paper the Lions look weaker. But on paper Mal and Leo would not be given a chance against O'Connell and O'Callaghan, but we know they both pulled out a monster performance.......so who knows?Comer Toes wrote:Paudy wrote:
I think the Lions have a great chance to sneak the first test against what might be a slightly rusty Saffa side but can see the Boks winning the series 2-1. Hooker, 2nd Row and back row just don’t look strong enough versus their opposite numbers to prevail.
At scrum-time, a back-row is only as good as the environment in which its front 5 allows it to play. There is a serious chance that the Lions scrum will have the 'Boks on the back foot every time. Pierre Spies can run 100m in 3.4 seconds all day if he likes but if he's not able to pick the ball up properly en route, there will be little he can do.Comer Toes wrote:Paudy wrote:Lads this is what people were sayin about Leinster before the Munster match. Ironic considering what the Lions turned up with against Golden Lions, probably draws a few parallels.... I couldn't believe this shite in New Zealand, even though they were right, there was no gaurantee there'd be a whitewash until the first game.Sorry dude, but that is funny.
I think the Lions have a great chance to sneak the first test against what might be a slightly rusty Saffa side but can see the Boks winning the series 2-1. Hooker, 2nd Row and back row just don’t look strong enough versus their opposite numbers to prevail.