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cormac wrote:kermischocolate wrote:For all those that go and grow as players I give you Stuart Hogg. Went in 2013 as one of the youngest, most exciting players in the NH. Came back an absolute arse with an ego the size of a medium size planet which took an entire season and dropping him from Glasgow's then biggest ever game (Pro12 final in The RDS) to get him anywhere near back on planet earth.
I'm with Blockhead on his views of The Lions.
I don't think the blame lies with the Lions for Stuart Hogg being a bellend. I rather suspect that's all on himself
kermischocolate wrote:cormac wrote:kermischocolate wrote:For all those that go and grow as players I give you Stuart Hogg. Went in 2013 as one of the youngest, most exciting players in the NH. Came back an absolute arse with an ego the size of a medium size planet which took an entire season and dropping him from Glasgow's then biggest ever game (Pro12 final in The RDS) to get him anywhere near back on planet earth.
I'm with Blockhead on his views of The Lions.
I don't think the blame lies with the Lions for Stuart Hogg being a bellend. I rather suspect that's all on himself
Oh he absolutely was. He was just a billion times worse after the Lions tour.
Logorrhea wrote:brenno wrote:And then I see the bilge that Luke Fitz spouts on Twitter and in his Indo podcasts about the Lions as the "ultimate accolade"
Exactly. What would Luke know anyway. its not as if he actually played the game professionally or anything.
bamboozle wrote:Logorrhea wrote:brenno wrote:And then I see the bilge that Luke Fitz spouts on Twitter and in his Indo podcasts about the Lions as the "ultimate accolade"
Exactly. What would Luke know anyway. its not as if he actually played the game professionally or anything.
Very good point. I understand why some fans dont like the potential knock on impact the lions tour has on the provincial squads, just like Leinster suffered last season due to the huge world cup exposure. However talk to any professional rugby player in Ireland and 99% of them would agree with those publicly stating how importantly the view being selected for the Lions. I love the lions tour, I love what it represents and its the continuance of tours such as this and the barbarians that keeps the old ethos of rugby in place and stops it slipping down the path of premiership football that is 100% driven by money.
Munsterboy wrote:bamboozle wrote:Logorrhea wrote:
Exactly. What would Luke know anyway. its not as if he actually played the game professionally or anything.
Very good point. I understand why some fans dont like the potential knock on impact the lions tour has on the provincial squads, just like Leinster suffered last season due to the huge world cup exposure. However talk to any professional rugby player in Ireland and 99% of them would agree with those publicly stating how importantly the view being selected for the Lions. I love the lions tour, I love what it represents and its the continuance of tours such as this and the barbarians that keeps the old ethos of rugby in place and stops it slipping down the path of premiership football that is 100% driven by money.
I understand that love you have for the good old days of touring sides etc. My biggest problem with it is that it's not really like that anymore. It's so commercialised and condensed that it's lost a lot of that old ethos (and I say this as somebody who followed the Lions on their last tour of NZ). The Baa-baas has gone the same way.
You just can't replicate those long leisurely tours of the past, or the Corinthian spirit of the game, in these days of professionalism.
Not saying professionalism is all bad. The standard is so much higher now and competitions like the ECC and the RWC are wonderful. Just not all the great traditions, teams and tours of the past are fit for purpose in this brave new world.
I'll still watch most of the games but I'm really not that bothered about the team selections or even the results anymore. I'll be more interested in how various young lads get on in Japan and the style of rugby Ireland play out there.
Munsterboy wrote:
I understand that love you have for the good old days of touring sides etc. My biggest problem with it is that it's not really like that anymore. It's so commercialised and condensed that it's lost a lot of that old ethos (and I say this as somebody who followed the Lions on their last tour of NZ). The Baa-baas has gone the same way.
You just can't replicate those long leisurely tours of the past, or the Corinthian spirit of the game, in these days of professionalism.
Not saying professionalism is all bad. The standard is so much higher now and competitions like the ECC and the RWC are wonderful. Just not all the great traditions, teams and tours of the past are fit for purpose in this brave new world.
I'll still watch most of the games but I'm really not that bothered about the team selections or even the results anymore. I'll be more interested in how various young lads get on in Japan and the style of rugby Ireland play out there.
Oldschool wrote:Should the IRFU/LEINSTER be allowing injury prone players like SOB and Sexton go on the Lions tour?
Oldschool wrote:Should the IRFU/LEINSTER be allowing injury prone players like SOB and Sexton go on the Lions tour?
matt wrote:Just watched the Hurricanes score 7 trys against the Stormers. 5 of the 7 trys involved strategic kicks 4 by Beauden Barrett & 1 by TJ Perenera. Barrett as well as great running ability is now handing his back 3 of Jane, Savea & his brother Jordie Barrett with try scoring cross kicks every game.
No doubt this will not have escaped Gatland's attention but preventing it won't be easy. Barrett even kicked crossfield in his own 22 to Savea for one of the trys. He is bringing out-half play to a new level even beyond Dan Carter.
simonokeeffe wrote:matt wrote:Just watched the Hurricanes score 7 trys against the Stormers. 5 of the 7 trys involved strategic kicks 4 by Beauden Barrett & 1 by TJ Perenera. Barrett as well as great running ability is now handing his back 3 of Jane, Savea & his brother Jordie Barrett with try scoring cross kicks every game.
No doubt this will not have escaped Gatland's attention but preventing it won't be easy. Barrett even kicked crossfield in his own 22 to Savea for one of the trys. He is bringing out-half play to a new level even beyond Dan Carter.
hmmmmmm
how was his goalkicking?
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:My use of pronouns has always been a miss.
LeRouxIsPHat wrote:My use of pronouns has always been a miss.
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