Mike Ruddock gone?

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » February 14th, 2006, 9:48 pm

Leinsterman wrote:As much as I dislike the Taffs, that's a bit cruel.

So long as he's not here I don't care......

harryp · Post by **harryp** » February 14th, 2006, 9:52 pm

Leinsterman wrote:Ruddock to move back to Ireland? His wife is Irish.........

He coauched Bective at one stage? Could it be possible.

If its family reasons its unlikely, if its player power, then there's always a chance.

After the Indo on Monday and GT today, EOS is under serious pressure. English Soccer managers have been sacked with less public criticism.

Crash · Post by **Crash** » February 14th, 2006, 9:55 pm

He coauched Bective at one stage? Could it be possible.

He coached Leinster too, Harry.

harryp · Post by **harryp** » February 14th, 2006, 9:59 pm

Crash wrote:
He coauched Bective at one stage? Could it be possible.
He coached Leinster too, Harry.

Completely forgot that.

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » February 14th, 2006, 9:59 pm

News on the wire is that there was a player revolt as they didn't want Chav Henson back.....Alfie lead the opposition apparently.....

harryp · Post by **harryp** » February 14th, 2006, 10:01 pm

Flash Gordon wrote:News on the wire is that there was a player revolt as they didn't want Chav Henson back.....Alfie lead the opposition apparently.....

Family reasons??

Sounds a bit dodgy, or does the missus want to come home?

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » February 14th, 2006, 10:04 pm

Family AND personal reasons. Wouldn't be surprised if it was Chav coming back - think he's fit again now so it all came to a head. Understand the players' views on this one I have to say.....

harryp · Post by **harryp** » February 15th, 2006, 12:22 am

The Welsh fans are seriously pissed off. I hit GWLAD for a while, they reckon it's all player power and a row with Johnson. There was even talk of him sitting in a car reading a paper during training??

By the sounds of it, could have been that, potential bust up with WRU over contract negotiations. The official press release sounds as if he's been pushed as much as walking. One way or another, the "Family Reasons" sounds like a load of Bull.

Taffies reckon he's going to take over from EOS. Other option is Leicester job??

We hope & pray? We'd still need a Backs Coach though?

thecoolfreak · Post by **thecoolfreak** » February 15th, 2006, 10:01 am

Taffies reckon he's going to take over from EOS. Other option is Leicester job??

I don't think he would be the greatest man to take over Ireland. Johnson is the man is behind the Welsh skills and style of play and not Ruddick

glic · Post by **glic** » February 15th, 2006, 10:03 am

According to Gerry Thornley on NewsTalk this morning the WRU still haven't signed Ruddock up to a new contract (current one expires after the 6N). Wins a grand slam and can't get a new contract??? As bad as the blazers are in this neck of the woods the welsh guys are worse then useless.
Maybe our breed of blazers have already given him assurances about future employment -second thoughts that would make way to much sense to be true.

harryp · Post by **harryp** » February 15th, 2006, 10:05 am

I reckon its premeditated.

He was rowing over contracts.
He can't leave after the 6N, and come straight to us, so he jumped ship early, on a guarantee that he has the Irish job after the 6N.

I hope,

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » February 15th, 2006, 10:30 am

harryp wrote:I reckon its premeditated.

He was rowing over contracts.
He can't leave after the 6N, and come straight to us, so he jumped ship early, on a guarantee that he has the Irish job after the 6N.

I hope,

Ruddock in with Knoxy as part time backs coach....that would be the ticket....

Duff Paddy · Post by **Duff Paddy** » February 15th, 2006, 10:36 am

This is fascinating but EOS is contracted until the world cup next year. He isn't going anywhere and Ruddock isn't going to take a demotion and come in as assistant coach.

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » February 15th, 2006, 10:40 am

Duff Paddy wrote:This is fascinating but EOS is contracted until the world cup next year. He isn't going anywhere and Ruddock isn't going to take a demotion and come in as assistant coach.

Brian Ashton was 1 year into a 6 year contract when he was fired from the Ireland job. Don't think contracts are that relevant in cases like this to be honest - though I think the guys who offerred him the long contract should be called to account......the same guys who knifed Gatland and brought him in in the first place.....we're watching you Messers Murphy and Coleman......and we haven't forgotten your roles either Messers Millar and Wood.....

harryp · Post by **harryp** » February 15th, 2006, 10:45 am

We'll know after the Welsh game. If there isn't a significant improvement the press will take EOS to the cleaners, and the IRFU will have to reconsider its overall position.

Financially, there is a problem sacking him, but as it stands not winning games never mind championships is costing the Union a firtune.

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » February 15th, 2006, 10:47 am

harryp wrote:We'll know after the Welsh game. If there isn't a significant improvement the press will take EOS to the cleaners, and the IRFU will have to reconsider its overall position.

Financially, there is a problem sacking him, but as it stands not winning games never mind championships is costing the Union a firtune.

The financial deal would depend upon what we paid Ruddock - and as you say, being wankel rotary engine for the next few years has a financial cost too......

harryp · Post by **harryp** » February 15th, 2006, 10:53 am

Flash Gordon wrote:
harryp wrote:wankel rotary engine

?????

Any idea what EOS is on right now? The talk on GWLAD yesterday was he was looking for 300k per year.

Duff Paddy · Post by **Duff Paddy** » February 15th, 2006, 11:01 am

harryp wrote:We'll know after the Welsh game. If there isn't a significant improvement the press will take EOS to the cleaners, and the IRFU will have to reconsider its overall position.

Financially, there is a problem sacking him, but as it stands not winning games never mind championships is costing the Union a firtune.

EOS is so lucky. Wales will now be in disarray and Ireland will probably beat them. Another stay of execution!

Flash Gordon · Post by **Flash Gordon** » February 15th, 2006, 11:02 am

harryp wrote:
Flash Gordon wrote:
harryp wrote:wankel rotary engine
?????

Any idea what EOS is on right now? The talk on GWLAD yesterday was he was looking for 300k per year.

Wankel rotary engine....from monty python - I'm sure you can work out what it means....

Yep 300K is about right.

harryp · Post by **harryp** » February 15th, 2006, 11:04 am

Duff Paddy wrote:
harryp wrote:We'll know after the Welsh game. If there isn't a significant improvement the press will take EOS to the cleaners, and the IRFU will have to reconsider its overall position.

Financially, there is a problem sacking him, but as it stands not winning games never mind championships is costing the Union a firtune.
EOS is so lucky. Wales will now be in disarray and Ireland will probably beat them. Another stay of execution!

If it was player power, Wales will have a new lease of life and Murder us.

Which Monty Pythin Movie?