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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby blockhead » November 14th, 2017, 10:32 am

Slightly off topic, but the nominations for World Rugby POTY have been named.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Sionnach » November 14th, 2017, 12:22 pm

I'm surprised not to see Murray on that list.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby paddyor » November 14th, 2017, 2:03 pm

Sionnach wrote:I'm surprised not to see Murray on that list.

Missed essentially 2 games though.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Oldschool » November 14th, 2017, 3:30 pm

If I had to pick a player from that lot it would be.
Furlong - the rest are a bunch of numpties.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby domhnallj » November 17th, 2017, 12:37 pm

Sionnach wrote:I'm surprised not to see Murray on that list.


I'm stunned that Ritchie McCaw isn't there. I assume he will be added at a later date.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Xanthippe » November 26th, 2017, 3:13 am

With just next week’s Wales v South Africa match left in the AIs we’re guaranteed to head into the 6 Nations in 3rd spot (thanks to the whooping Scotland gave Australia today)

1	NEW ZEALAND	93.99
2 ENGLAND 90.87
3 IRELAND 86.39
4 AUSTRALIA 85.49
5 SOUTH AFRICA 84.90
6 SCOTLAND 84.11
7 WALES 80.98
8 ARGENTINA 78.22
9 FRANCE 78.09
10 FIJI 77.93
11 JAPAN 75.66
12 GEORGIA 73.46
13 ITALY 71.25
14 ROMANIA 70.91
15 TONGA 70.53
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Ruckedtobits » November 26th, 2017, 9:47 am

Great work Xanthippe.

Fascinating to watch the slide of France, although S Africa have arrested their descent. Georgia and Fiji would love the opportunity of games against France at this point and even Tonga, Romania and Samoa would fancy their chances.

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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Xanthippe » March 12th, 2018, 7:23 pm

I know a lot of people don't really bother with World Rankings but it's not every day your team reach 2nd place so, in honour of our wonderful achievement, here are the rankings as of today:

1	NEW ZEALAND	93.99
2 IRELAND 87.85
3 ENGLAND 87.50
4 AUSTRALIA 85.49
5 SOUTH AFRICA 83.81
6 SCOTLAND 83.80
7 WALES 83.07
8 FRANCE 79.44
9 ARGENTINA 78.22
10 FIJI 77.93
11 JAPAN 75.66
12 GEORGIA 73.80
13 TONGA 71.87
14 ITALY 71.13
15 USA 69.23
16 SAMOA 69.03
17 ROMANIA 68.41
18 URUGUAY 65.37
19 SPAIN 64.58
20 RUSSIA 62.38
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby simonokeeffe » March 12th, 2018, 8:33 pm

Overtaking England in anything is good

As an aside how badly are Samoa run consideringbthe talent available (even ignoring unavailable)
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Dave Cahill » March 12th, 2018, 9:07 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:Overtaking England in anything is good

As an aside how badly are Samoa run consideringbthe talent available (even ignoring unavailable)



Their record in the PNC over the last few years has been quite poor and even in Sevens they've been well off the pace for a couple of years also. The talent available just isn't very good. And if it is, it isn't available.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby simonokeeffe » March 13th, 2018, 9:25 am

Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Overtaking England in anything is good

As an aside how badly are Samoa run consideringbthe talent available (even ignoring unavailable)



Their record in the PNC over the last few years has been quite poor and even in Sevens they've been well off the pace for a couple of years also. The talent available just isn't very good. And if it is, it isn't available.


What Ive read from journalists and ex players is the union is a corrupt poop show beyond belief. Management of the actual team has been terrible too
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Dave Cahill » March 13th, 2018, 10:43 am

That may be so, but the players aren't there at the moment. There are good players unavailable for selection alright, but what they do have isn't up to it. Now maybe if the setup were run better those players would come back
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Ruckedtobits » March 17th, 2018, 11:44 pm

How far ahead of England does that get us?
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby locho » March 18th, 2018, 12:49 am

Ruckedtobits wrote:How far ahead of England does that get us?


We go to 89.11 they will drop to 86.23
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby locho » March 28th, 2018, 9:28 pm

Interesting to note if (big if) we continue the winning streak through the summer and if (huge if) France somehow manage a win v NZ we will be top of the rankings!!! 8)
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Lar » June 26th, 2018, 5:02 pm

Obviously the winning of the Series in Australia has consolidated our position as second in the Rankings but I noted we now have a points total in excess of 90. Is this the first time we have exceeded that points total? I am sure someone like Xanthippe will know. Unless we lose to one or more of Italy, Argentina or USA in the AIs it seems pretty safe we will remain no. 2 for the rest of 2018.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby jimbobjoe » June 26th, 2018, 5:30 pm

Lar wrote:Obviously the winning of the Series in Australia has consolidated our position as second in the Rankings but I noted we now have a points total in excess of 90. Is this the first time we have exceeded that points total? I am sure someone like Xanthippe will know. Unless we lose to one or more of Italy, Argentina or USA in the AIs it seems pretty safe we will remain no. 2 for the rest of 2018.


Highest ever points total.. http://www.the42.ie/ireland-world-rugby ... 3-Jun2018/

We're around 4 points away from our nearest in either direction. I'd be interested if that's the most daylight we've ever had?
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby locho » June 26th, 2018, 5:32 pm

ASFAIK it's the first time we've broken that barrier alright.

An interesting quirk of the points exchange system means any win vs. USA, Italy or Argentina in the Autumn will have no impact on our ranking (assuming no major changes in rankings in rugby championship) as they are all over 10 points behind us, whereas a loss to any of those team will have a huge impact.

Also the fact that England, Scotland and ourselves won on the last weekend of Summer series means there is less points for the SH teams to play for in the Rugby championship, which will help protect our standing as no.2.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby dropkick » July 1st, 2018, 7:51 pm

The average ranking of the big NH 5 (Ireland, England, France, Scotland, Wales) is now ahead of the average ranking of the SH big 4(NZ, Aus, SA, Arg). 10 years ago they were averaging about 10 ranking points ahead.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Lar » July 2nd, 2018, 12:36 pm

dropkick wrote:The average ranking of the big NH 5 (Ireland, England, France, Scotland, Wales) is now ahead of the average ranking of the SH big 4(NZ, Aus, SA, Arg). 10 years ago they were averaging about 10 ranking points ahead.


This is a point that was not lost on me also, although I had not looked at the averages. There were however no NH sides in the last four at the last RWC. Have they (we) improved that much since? Or are the SH sides building towards the next RWC without much regard for their rankings between tournaments?

Whilst the Bledisloe Cup is pretty important to Australia and NZ, I don't see the same intensity in the games between NZ and RSA that there used to be. Whereas the Six Nations is still massively important to the NH sides.
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