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Postby Armchair » November 23rd, 2010, 1:40 pm

IRB World Rankings - 22 November 2010 Position (last week) Member Union Rating Point
1(1) NEW ZEALAND 93.19
2(3) AUSTRALIA 85.90
3(2) SOUTH AFRICA 85.31
4(4) ENGLAND 83.61
5(5) FRANCE 83.21
6(8) SCOTLAND 81.20
7(6) IRELAND 80.90
8(7) ARGENTINA 79.87
9(9) WALES 77.04
10(10) FIJI 75.02
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby CiaranIrl » November 23rd, 2010, 4:39 pm

Ugh... Scotland are ahead of us. Harsh...
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Logorrhea » November 23rd, 2010, 4:40 pm

Thats what happens when you lose a lot of games.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Broken Wing » November 23rd, 2010, 5:46 pm

Scotland beat the World Champions.

Argentina could be looking at Sunday as an opportunity to hop up a spot if anyone gave a monkey's about these. We'll be back up following the 6N and then bounce around a bit in the RWC.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Logorrhea » November 23rd, 2010, 5:53 pm

RWC is double the points
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Postby Broken Wing » November 23rd, 2010, 5:55 pm

We'll be flying when we beat Australia!
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby gowest » November 23rd, 2010, 6:52 pm

fair enugh, scotland have been good this year,

we have been poor, a loss on sunday would cap of a awful year for irish rugby. we need to win, because i cant see the 6 nation being good for us.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby suisse » November 23rd, 2010, 8:55 pm

gowest wrote:fair enugh, scotland have been good this year,

we have been poor, a loss on sunday would cap of a awful year for irish rugby. we need to win, because i cant see the 6 nation being good for us.


Don't agree. The standard of European rugby is, seemingly, so poor that Ireland could feature well only for being less bad than the others. The Italians haven't, yet, benefited from the ML (might take another year, then again, we have been giving them the benefit of doubt for years) so can't see us losing in Rome. Wales are dreadful. Scotland away could be out toughest game but how many time have you heard someone sayins "Scotland could the surprise package"? Never happens. I'll reserve judgement on England when they face a scrum that is not battered (France, Italy and Wales all have the necessary ingrediants)
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Postby Sauvignon Blank » November 24th, 2010, 6:09 pm

suisse wrote:
Wales are dreadful. Scotland away could be out toughest game but how many time have you heard someone sayins "Scotland could the surprise package"? Never happens. I'll reserve judgement on England when they face a scrum that is not battered (France, Italy and Wales all have the necessary ingrediants)


They may be dreadful but we'll struggle to get any type of win over them in Cardiff, and the Scots as limited and turgid as they are will be formidable opponents for us at Murrayfield. I can see a poor 6N for Ireland. Hope i'm wrong.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Oldschool » November 25th, 2010, 12:07 pm

The Argentina game is a very very important game for Ireland.
Seedings for WC 2015 are based on IRB ratings.
We do not need a repeat of the near panic that broke out, just after the 2007 WC, when our 8th place slot was up for grabs.
Scotland were the losers then. Argentina the gainers.
We need to beat Argentina on sunday and Scotland in the 6N, because our WC pre games is going to do us some serious damage.
We even need to beat Australia in the WC (for the double points)
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby CiaranIrl » November 25th, 2010, 3:57 pm

Oldschool wrote:The Argentina game is a very very important game for Ireland.
Seedings for WC 2015 are based on IRB ratings.
We do not need a repeat of the near panic that broke out, just after the 2007 WC, when our 8th place slot was up for grabs.
Scotland were the losers then. Argentina the gainers.
We need to beat Argentina on sunday and Scotland in the 6N, because our WC pre games is going to do us some serious damage.
We even need to beat Australia in the WC (for the double points)


If we beat Australia, then we'll meet Wales or Fiji in the QF, so we would want to get to the semi final in that case. Based on that, we would would have a good shot of making 4th place in the rankings, assuming France or England don't also get to the semis.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Xanthippe » November 25th, 2010, 4:24 pm

CiaranIrl wrote:
Oldschool wrote:The Argentina game is a very very important game for Ireland.
Seedings for WC 2015 are based on IRB ratings.
We do not need a repeat of the near panic that broke out, just after the 2007 WC, when our 8th place slot was up for grabs.
Scotland were the losers then. Argentina the gainers.
We need to beat Argentina on sunday and Scotland in the 6N, because our WC pre games is going to do us some serious damage.
We even need to beat Australia in the WC (for the double points)


If we beat Australia, then we'll meet Wales or Fiji in the QF, so we would want to get to the semi final in that case. Based on that, we would would have a good shot of making 4th place in the rankings, assuming France or England don't also get to the semis.


I love your confidence. At a time when most poeople don't think we'll make it out of our group you have us beating Australia, getting to the semis and ending the tournament as the 4th best team in the world - sounds a bit like a Carlsberg ad.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Schumi » November 25th, 2010, 4:27 pm

Xanthippe wrote:I love your confidence. At a time when most poeople don't think we'll make it out of our group you have us beating Australia, getting to the semis and ending the tournament as the 4th best team in the world - sounds a bit like a Carlsberg ad.

Who thinks we won't get out of our group? I don't think we're in much danger of losing to Italy, Russia or USA.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby waterboy » November 25th, 2010, 6:13 pm

We have to play the USA on the 10th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, you can be sure they'll be throwing everything at us that day for a win at all costs.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Sauvignon Blank » November 25th, 2010, 6:25 pm

Schumi wrote:
Xanthippe wrote:I love your confidence. At a time when most poeople don't think we'll make it out of our group you have us beating Australia, getting to the semis and ending the tournament as the 4th best team in the world - sounds a bit like a Carlsberg ad.

Who thinks we won't get out of our group? I don't think we're in much danger of losing to Italy, Russia or USA.



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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Donald » November 25th, 2010, 8:55 pm

I'd agree with the latest ranking. Actually I think Los Pumas could be a bit ahead of us even
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby fourthirtythree » November 25th, 2010, 10:45 pm

Donald wrote:I'd agree with the latest ranking. Actually I think Los Pumas could be a bit ahead of us even


They've had mixed form over the last couple of years or they would be. Scotland, obviously, deserve to be ahead of us.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Oldschool » November 25th, 2010, 11:37 pm

Sauvignon Blank wrote:
Schumi wrote:
Xanthippe wrote:I love your confidence. At a time when most poeople don't think we'll make it out of our group you have us beating Australia, getting to the semis and ending the tournament as the 4th best team in the world - sounds a bit like a Carlsberg ad.

Who thinks we won't get out of our group? I don't think we're in much danger of losing to Italy, Russia or USA.



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I know the country is F^cked, but rugby hasn't quite gone down the tubes yet.
Ok I know DK has to get over his lovefest with Buckley, Hayes and Mod in particular with Wallace squared in attendance.
But even so, only Italy would come even close to an upset and Australia talk a good game, but really what have they done in the last 10 years.
It would be interesting to see their W, L, D record against all-comers and against the SH and NH teams as a sub-group.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby ronk » November 26th, 2010, 12:58 am

Oldschool wrote:Hang your head in shame.
I know the country is F^cked, but rugby has quite gone down the tubes yet.
Ok I know DK has to get over his lovefest with Buckley, Hayes and Mod in particular with Wallace squared in attendance.
But even so, only Italy would come even close to an upset and Australia talk a good game, but really what have they done in the last 10 years.
It would be interesting to see their W, L, D record against all-comers and against the SH and NH teams as a sub-group.


Well it's 11 years now but they won a World Cup final and lost out to a last minute drop goal in the next one. Take one bad game away against England in 2007 where they learnt an important lesson and you see a team that are always a danger come World Cup time.
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Re: IRB World Rankings

Postby Oldschool » November 26th, 2010, 1:14 pm

ronk wrote:
Oldschool wrote:Hang your head in shame.
I know the country is F^cked, but rugby has quite gone down the tubes yet.
Ok I know DK has to get over his lovefest with Buckley, Hayes and Mod in particular with Wallace squared in attendance.
But even so, only Italy would come even close to an upset and Australia talk a good game, but really what have they done in the last 10 years.
It would be interesting to see their W, L, D record against all-comers and against the SH and NH teams as a sub-group.


Well it's 11 years now but they won a World Cup final and lost out to a last minute drop goal in the next one. Take one bad game away against England in 2007 where they learnt an important lesson and you see a team that are always a danger come World Cup time.

And you and I and most of the rest of the Rugby world know damn well that the ref kept them in that game against England.
England were by far the best team on the day (and in the tournament), the ref did his best to make it a contest.
So respect Australia yes, fear them no. There recent record against us is average, with rarely a big difference in the scoreline.
You could argue our record against them is average also, but then they're the ones talking themselves up.
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