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[VGE]

But they are playing in Argentina. No easy task!

Without the Top14 french semi finalists (incredible but true, some french players still play in France)




Au revoir.

[simonokeeffe]

Do/did Wales get anything for margin of defeat to NZ?

[Xanthippe]

Do/did Wales get anything for margin of defeat to NZ?

No. Because New Zealand are more than 10 ranking points ahead of them it doesn't matter how much they lose by they cannot lose any ranking points. Same will apply to us when we play them in November.

What can affect us though is losing to Australia. Now that England have beaten them twice they are much closer to us in points so we will be penalised if we lose to them.

[simonokeeffe]

Do/did Wales get anything for margin of defeat to NZ?

No. Because New Zealand are more than 10 ranking points ahead of them it doesn't matter how much they lose by they cannot lose any ranking points. Same will apply to us when we play them in November.

What can affect us though is losing to Australia. Now that England have beaten them twice they are much closer to us in points so we will be penalised if we lose to them.

perfidious albion

[simonokeeffe]

France officially down to 9th now after losing to Argentina and Scotland (8th) winning away

would not fancy a New Zealand Ireland France Samoa WGAF group

[Oldschool]

France officially down to 9th now after losing to Argentina and Scotland (8th) winning away

would not fancy a New Zealand Ireland France Samoa WGAF group

A top four seed would sort that potential problem out.
SA are the most vulnerable current top four team.
We could start to work on that little problem next Saturday.
Argentina being the potential fly in the ointment .

[simonokeeffe]

France officially down to 9th now after losing to Argentina and Scotland (8th) winning away

would not fancy a New Zealand Ireland France Samoa WGAF group

A top four seed would sort that potential problem out.
SA are the most vulnerable current top four team.
We could start to work on that little problem next Saturday.
Argentina being the potential fly in the ointment .

If we make top 4 then 5-8 is Boks Argentina Wales Scotland

now one of those would be amazing

[Peg Leg]

France officially down to 9th now after losing to Argentina and Scotland (8th) winning away

would not fancy a New Zealand Ireland France Samoa WGAF group

A top four seed would sort that potential problem out.
SA are the most vulnerable current top four team.
We could start to work on that little problem next Saturday.
Argentina being the potential fly in the ointment .

If we make top 4 then 5-8 is Boks Argentina Wales Scotland

now one of those would be amazing

Awesome, the sport of rugby is growing and becoming more competitive.

[Xanthippe]

World rankings after weekend games. Argentina are the big, BIG losers after 27-0 defeat by France - they drop 4 places to 9th

1 New Zealand 96.10
2 England 89.49
3 South Africa 86.32
4 Australia 84.43
5 Wales 82.49
6 Ireland 81.67
7 France 80.75
8 Scotland 80.44
9 Argentina 80.20
10 Fiji 75.49
11 Georgia 75.23
12 Japan 74.95
13 Italy 72.23
14 Samoa 71.37
15 Tonga 69.47
16 Romania 68.74
17 USA 65.60
18 Canada 64.53
19 Uruguay 63.56
20 Namibia 62.28
21 Russia 61.91

[simonokeeffe]

Last thing anyone wants is them as 3rd seed

[Ruckedtobits]

Georgia on the verge of passing Fiji and entering top 10 and pressing for access to 6 Nations in some form. This development was predicted by Ml Bradley, on the basis of his experience of IRB-sponsored 3 yr Coaching term in the country.

Unbeaten on tour of Samoa, Tonga and Fiji may not sound like anything ectraordinary, but not many in the Top Tier would fancy that programme in successive weeks.

[simonokeeffe]

I think too many dark forces/forces noir are against it

[Morf]

I think too many dark forces/forces noir are against it

[Fireworks]

I think too many dark forces/forces noir are against it

Not really dark forces. It is the Top 14 and the PRL who would block it.

An extra team extends it to the 7 nations which would mean more games and longer international windows. They would never put up with losing players for the extra time. It might be possible to have a promotion/relegation match between last place in 6n and best of rest each year.

[jezzer]

I think too many dark forces/forces noir are against it

Not really dark forces. It is the Top 14 and the PRL who would block it.

An extra team extends it to the 7 nations which would mean more games and longer international windows. They would never put up with losing players for the extra time. It might be possible to have a promotion/relegation match between last place in 6n and best of rest each year.

Relegation in the 6n would be a no no. But maybe Italy needs to be dropped down into a pool of four nations who playoff for a spot in the 6n every year. Play it in the Nov window, after them playing a single SH test. Italy wouldn't like it but they've had more than a fair rattle at getting a foothold in the 6n. Other 6n teams in the past have had dismal runs, but Italy don't look like breaking through because the whole domestic game is a mess.

[simonokeeffe]

Georgia would bring far less in tv revenue than Italy and Tblisi v Rome as a destination is a no brainer

French clubs would lean HARD on their Georgian players not to play

To me Georgias best chance is if Romania are included too so Tier 1 sides get an extra home gate every year and then theres possibly only one rest weekend

[Xanthippe]

Latest top 10 following weekend games:

1. BNZ 94.57 (-2.00)
2. ENG 89.49
3. AUS 86.86 (+ 1.52)
4. RSA 84.85
5. IRL 83.67 (+2.00)
6. ARG 81.46 (+1.15)
7. WAL 80.79 (-1.52)
8. FRA 80.75
9. SCO 80.44
10. FIJ 75.49

[neiliog93]

So if lose the next test to NZ but beat Aus, we should go to third, so long as England beat Oz and RSA, which I think most of us expect to happen.

[simonokeeffe]

So if lose the next test to NZ but beat Aus, we should go to third, so long as England beat Oz and RSA, which I think most of us expect to happen.

Think we'd go 4th but same effect; decent 6n and we're top seeds for the draw in may
Extra reason to want Wales to beat Boks is we dont Wales slipping to 9th as then we are guaranteed to get them as 3rd seeds

And chapeau to Xan as always

[johng]

we dont Wales slipping to 9th as then we are guaranteed to get them as 3rd seeds

I'd say that is between France and Scotland. We really don't want France. They could pull it together just in time for WC. We could have them AND Wales if we are top seeds.