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So where are we at after Saturday then?
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Should jump ahead of Scotland and probably Wales so back to 6th.
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We are 6th. Interestingly, if we had scored a converted try. (Murray or Bowe) at the end. We would have jumped to 3rd ahead of Australia (who would have fallen to 6th)
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So despite completely outclassing the Aussies we don't really move up because we didn't score a try FFS just goes to show how useless these rankings are.johng wrote:We are 6th. Interestingly, if we had scored a converted try. (Murray or Bowe) at the end. We would have jumped to 3rd ahead of Australia (who would have fallen to 6th)
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TerenureJim wrote:So despite completely outclassing the Aussies we don't really move up because we didn't score a try FFS just goes to show how useless these rankings are.johng wrote:We are 6th. Interestingly, if we had scored a converted try. (Murray or Bowe) at the end. We would have jumped to 3rd ahead of Australia (who would have fallen to 6th)
Not because we did not score a try. Because we did not beat them by more than 15 points.
We did move up from 8th to 6th.
They have been passed by SA too. and are now in 3rd.
We could pass France if they get lashed out of it by NZ.
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The doubling of the points in a WC does seem to enable some pretty big movements in the rankings!johng wrote:TerenureJim wrote:So despite completely outclassing the Aussies we don't really move up because we didn't score a try FFS just goes to show how useless these rankings are.johng wrote:We are 6th. Interestingly, if we had scored a converted try. (Murray or Bowe) at the end. We would have jumped to 3rd ahead of Australia (who would have fallen to 6th)
Not because we did not score a try. Because we did not beat them by more than 15 points.
We did move up from 8th to 6th.
They have been passed by SA too. and are now in 3rd.
We could pass France if they get lashed out of it by NZ.
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If France lose to NZ (V likely) and we beat Italy (probably less likely but still likely) and England lose to Scotland (Unlikely but possible)
We end up in 4th behind Aus going into the knockout stages.
However if Scotland beat Argentina as well as England (have to say bordering on Very unlikely) they end up in 4th ahead of us.
Scotland lose both and we are 5th behind England.
All of this thanks to Strange but Blue's Excel sheet.
We end up in 4th behind Aus going into the knockout stages.
However if Scotland beat Argentina as well as England (have to say bordering on Very unlikely) they end up in 4th ahead of us.
Scotland lose both and we are 5th behind England.
All of this thanks to Strange but Blue's Excel sheet.
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It stood up to the first week of games and matches the irb.com site apart from rounding errors. There is a slightly updated version available on requestjohng wrote: All of this thanks to Strange but Blue's Excel sheet.
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I don't much care about rankings, but can someone tell me if they have a bearing on World Cup seeding? I've been wondering why England are top seeds. Must be cos of the last World Cup? They've hardly been pulling up trees in the intervening years
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Is Argentina not the top seed there? England second tier and Scotland third. Bit of a joke stillTwist wrote:I don't much care about rankings, but can someone tell me if they have a bearing on World Cup seeding? I've been wondering why England are top seeds. Must be cos of the last World Cup? They've hardly been pulling up trees in the intervening years
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The seedings for the top three places in each group were as per the world rankings on 1st December 2008, which were as follows:gfo wrote:Is Argentina not the top seed there? England second tier and Scotland third. Bit of a joke stillTwist wrote:I don't much care about rankings, but can someone tell me if they have a bearing on World Cup seeding? I've been wondering why England are top seeds. Must be cos of the last World Cup? They've hardly been pulling up trees in the intervening years
NEW ZEALAND 92.68 SOUTH AFRICA 89.45 AUSTRALIA 85.86 ARGENTINA 81.56 WALES 81.03 ENGLAND 80.86 FRANCE 79.49 IRELAND 78.45 SCOTLAND 76.76 FIJI 75.24 ITALY 74.64 SAMOA 72.57It's interesting to remember that, following a win against Canada and defeat to New Zealand in the autumn internationals, we were left needing to beat Argentina to maintain 8th place. Had we lost we would have ended up 9th and Scotland would have taken our 8th place and our 2 seeding for the draw.
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Correct.
Met so many people after that game saying how cr@p it was. They didnt understand the significance of it.
It was Kidneys most important game.
Had we lost we would have been 3rd seeds this month.
Met so many people after that game saying how cr@p it was. They didnt understand the significance of it.
It was Kidneys most important game.
Had we lost we would have been 3rd seeds this month.
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was Michael Bradley not in charge for that one.
DK didn't take over until the next match I think
DK didn't take over until the next match I think
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Yeah I'd completely forgotten that aspect to the Argie game
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No, Bradley took the team on the summer tour - Deccie's first official game in charge was against Canada in November.hope not expectation wrote:was Michael Bradley not in charge for that one.
DK didn't take over until the next match I think
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I see we've moved up to 5th. France are the big losers with that defeat to Tonga.
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The priority and immediate short term goal now is to maintain or improve our rating until post AI 2012, when the RWC 2015 seedings are announced.
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I was thinking this. If Argentina can get themselves seeded then so can we. Could make 2015 a lot more manageable.Oldschool wrote:The priority and immediate short term goal now is to maintain or improve our rating until post AI 2012, when the RWC 2015 seedings are announced.
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I was thinking this. If Argentina can get themselves seeded then so can we. Could make 2015 a lot more manageable.Oldschool wrote:The priority and immediate short term goal now is to maintain or improve our rating until post AI 2012, when the RWC 2015 seedings are announced.
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Current rankings (after semi finals)
1. NZ 91.94 91.34
2. Aus 85.89 86.49
3. Fra 84.79
4. SA 84.34
5. Eng 81.58
6. Wal 81.10
7. Irl 80.65
8. Arg 80.28
Edit: Forgot that, although World Cup matches are played at neutral venues, this does not apply if the host nation are playing. BNZ and AUS ratings amended accordingly.
1. NZ 91.94 91.34
2. Aus 85.89 86.49
3. Fra 84.79
4. SA 84.34
5. Eng 81.58
6. Wal 81.10
7. Irl 80.65
8. Arg 80.28
Edit: Forgot that, although World Cup matches are played at neutral venues, this does not apply if the host nation are playing. BNZ and AUS ratings amended accordingly.
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