RWC 2023: Ireland

[Dexter]

would we have sufficient intelligence and counter terrorism forces to uncover it? Doubtful.

I think you'd be surprised. G2 and the ARW are a formidable and quite nasty combination

Who are they now?

[Ruckedtobits]

That's not as clearcut as before Dave as World Rugby had a major review of governance last year -undertaken by the illustrious Peter Sutherland - which will ensure that the balance of power has shifted from the 'founder' nations who historically had double votes.

The first hard evidence of the new "real politik" was the appointment of Augustin Pichot of Argentina as Vice Chairman to Bill Beaumont at the top of World Rugby. Unlike the previous occasion, four years previously, when Beaumont was shafted at a meeting in Los Angeles by Frenchman Lappasset announcing he was standing for a second term as Chairman of the (then) IRB.

Although there was no alternative candidate up against Pichot, this was a clear recognition that the revised voted structure and weighting can no longer carry the opinion of the traditional Tier 1 nations, on their own.

Be very certain that the vote for RWC 2023 could be very political, but current chaos (of many forms) in France is working in Ireland's favour just now. But,"there's many a slip twixt cup and lip"

[simonokeeffe]

we gave the game to Argentina, theyre bound to vote for us

[Morf]

Could the Clongowes/Cork Con mafia be enlisted to cover event security?

[jimbobjoe]

Could the Clongowes/Cork Con mafia be enlisted to cover event security?

It'll be like Altamont all over again!

[Dave Cahill]

That's not as clearcut as before Dave as World Rugby had a major review of governance last year -undertaken by the illustrious Peter Sutherland - which will ensure that the balance of power has shifted from the 'founder' nations who historically had double votes.

The first hard evidence of the new "real politik" was the appointment of Augustin Pichot of Argentina as Vice Chairman to Bill Beaumont at the top of World Rugby. Unlike the previous occasion, four years previously, when Beaumont was shafted at a meeting in Los Angeles by Frenchman Lappasset announcing he was standing for a second term as Chairman of the (then) IRB.

Although there was no alternative candidate up against Pichot, this was a clear recognition that the revised voted structure and weighting can no longer carry the opinion of the traditional Tier 1 nations, on their own.

Be very certain that the vote for RWC 2023 could be very political, but current chaos (of many forms) in France is working in Ireland's favour just now. But,"there's many a slip twixt cup and lip"

I was working off the new voting structure.

The new structure means that the 30 votes of the 10 Tier 1 nations will be, at best, only matched by every Tier 2 nation (9 nations, 18 votes in total) AND every continental association (6 associations , 12 votes in total).

Ultimately Tier 1 nations will only vote for whats best for Tier 1 nations . The only real hope for genuine reform for Tier 2 is if the FFR come to terms with the current realpolitik and instigate reforms on behalf of the second tier as it will soon be amongst them.

[Dave Cahill]

would we have sufficient intelligence and counter terrorism forces to uncover it? Doubtful.

I think you'd be surprised. G2 and the ARW are a formidable and quite nasty combination

Who are they now?

The Directorate of Military intelligence and the Army Ranger Wing respectively.

[bonzo]

That's not as clearcut as before Dave as World Rugby had a major review of governance last year -undertaken by the illustrious Peter Sutherland - which will ensure that the balance of power has shifted from the 'founder' nations who historically had double votes.

The first hard evidence of the new "real politik" was the appointment of Augustin Pichot of Argentina as Vice Chairman to Bill Beaumont at the top of World Rugby. Unlike the previous occasion, four years previously, when Beaumont was shafted at a meeting in Los Angeles by Frenchman Lappasset announcing he was standing for a second term as Chairman of the (then) IRB.

Although there was no alternative candidate up against Pichot, this was a clear recognition that the revised voted structure and weighting can no longer carry the opinion of the traditional Tier 1 nations, on their own.

Be very certain that the vote for RWC 2023 could be very political, but current chaos (of many forms) in France is working in Ireland's favour just now. But,"there's many a slip twixt cup and lip"

I've suspected for a while that you're Hugo MacNeill...

[Ruckedtobits]

Chance would be a fine thing - but I wouldn't mind the Goldman Sachs handle and annual Partner share-out.

[Donald]

Italy have now pulled out so its Ireland, SA or France!! Exciting times

[TerenureJim]

Exciting for us but at the same time sad to see Italy pull out, it would have been great for the growth of the game and a great place to visit/tour italia '90#2!

Really would love to see us get this over SA or France they've both had a chance before and they'll likely get to bid again we probably have one shot to make it work and it just looks like everything economy, infrastructure, etc etc are aligning to make it happen.

[simonokeeffe]

Exciting for us but at the same time sad to see Italy pull out, it would have been great for the growth of the game and a great place to visit/tour italia '90#2!

Really would love to see us get this over SA or France they've both had a chance before and they'll likely get to bid again we probably have one shot to make it work and it just looks like everything economy, infrastructure, etc etc are aligning to make it happen.

France have had it before and have even more strike happy workers than SIPTU

South Africa has the crime rate to scare most people off

[Dave Cahill]

Brexit is the problem we face.

[Ruckedtobits]

As previously stated, this is a National target for France as they want to get Olympics in 2024 and IOC are rumoured to have told them they need to have a "dry run" on all security aspects, ideally another international sports Tournament, before 2024.

S Africa is a political basket case and there's a lot of political opposition to another Sports 'spend' that will bring nothing to ordinary people. The FIFA World Cup was a white elephant and didn't even leave a "feel good" factor.

Finally, the ruling party ANC are definitely not in love with SA Rugby at present and don't believe that SA Rugby does anything the majority of the population.

At present, probable ranking is 1. France, 2. Ireland, 3. South Africa. But the decision will be political!

[rooster]

Brexit is the problem we face.

Major problem Dave indeed, especially with the bunch of arseholes we have up here to sort out logistics

[TheBear]

Any idea when the decision will be made? Or, to be more precise, will be made public?

[johng]

Any idea when the decision will be made? Or, to be more precise, will be made public?

May 17

[rooster]

Any idea when the decision will be made? Or, to be more precise, will be made public?

May 17

Waiting to see what happens to Pat Hickey?
Need ticket agents

[arsebiscuits1]

Any idea when the decision will be made? Or, to be more precise, will be made public?

May 17

The42 are saying it's November 17. Which would make a lot more sense as the 2024 Olympic bid will be announced in September 17

[johng]

14 May – 15 June 2015 Unions submit an expression of interest
3 July 2015 World Rugby confirms bidders
May 2016 World Rugby releases tender documentation
June 2016 Deadline for unions to confirm their intent to tender a bid
May 2017 Host for the 2023 Rugby World Cup is announced