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Postby simonokeeffe » November 17th, 2015, 2:39 pm

Definites 16

Best 2018
Healy 2019
J McGrath 2019
Henderson 2018*
Toner 2020
POM 2018
SOB 2019
Heaslip 2020

Murray 2019
Sexton 2019
Henshaw 2019
Payne 2018
Earls 2019
Trimble 2017
Bowe 2018
RK 2018

*upgraded mid contract based on what was previously reported

Lapsing provincial deals

Definite provincial deals

Staruss, Murphy, JVDF length unknown
Cronin 2018
DK 2018
Furlong 2018
McFadden 2018
Ringrose 2018
Ruddock 2018
Stander 2018
Marmion 2018
Zebo 2018
L Marshall 2018
Bealham 2019
Buckley 2019
TB 2019
J Cronin 2019
Dillane 2019
Henry 2019
Jackson 2019
Kilcoyne 2019
McCloskey 2019
Scannell 2019
Scannell 2019
Sweetnam 2019
TOD 2019
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When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Central Contracts

Postby simonokeeffe » November 17th, 2015, 2:41 pm

Ross and Reddan (If applicable) the only central deals youd be certain won't be renewed
Moore, and J McGrath especially, one would imagine would be coming on them if they werent already (important positions, matchday certainty)

which would leave 15 plus

Marmion and one of Jackson or Madigan would have great shots so there arent just one scrumhalf and one outhalf on a central deal
Henshaw, Payne and if applicable maybe Ruddock will get central deals youd think
When he spreads his legs like that youd need dynamite or the Highland Light Infantry to shift him.
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Re: Central Contracts

Postby johng » November 17th, 2015, 4:03 pm

Mike Ross........2016
Cian Healy........2016

Rory Best........2016
Conor Murray........2016
POC........2016
Keith Earls........2016

Sean O'Brien…..2016
Devin Toner…..2016


Donncha Ryan........2017
Jamie Heaslip........2017
Andrew Trimble........2017

Rob Kearney........2018
Tommy Bowe........2018
Peter O'Mahony........2018

Jonny Sexton........2019

Them's them.

I thought Henshaw was the most likely to have one as he is in all the ads. But no apparently.
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Re: Central Contracts

Postby Ruckedtobits » November 17th, 2015, 7:37 pm

Cronin, McGrath and Moore do not have central contracts. Henshaw is in negotiations but in reality as Connacht are funded by IRFU, he is already on an IRFU direct contract. The sign that negotiations have begun wrre his comments 10 days ago.

McGrath may also be in negotiations and I think that Tommy B's contract is to 2017
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Postby simonokeeffe » November 17th, 2015, 8:05 pm

Is Toner definite?

Cant see Cronin getting one now anyway if hes down to 3rd choice but would be mad not to give Jack and Marty central deals now

moot point but was Felix Jones on one?

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Re: Central Contracts

Postby johng » November 17th, 2015, 8:53 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:Is Toner definite?

Pretty sure he is
simonokeeffe wrote:moot point but was Felix Jones on one?


Nope. Recently expired ones were.....

DOC........2014
Bod........2014
Tom Court........2014

Gordon D'Arcy........2015 (His central expired in 2014 and he shifted to a Leinster only one)
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Postby simonokeeffe » November 17th, 2015, 8:57 pm

cheers, was trying to figure out Zebo's chances and then the research bug took over
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Postby johng » November 17th, 2015, 9:01 pm

Ruckedtobits wrote:Cronin, McGrath and Moore do not have central contracts. Henshaw is in negotiations but in reality as Connacht are funded by IRFU, he is already on an IRFU direct contract. The sign that negotiations have begun wrre his comments 10 days ago.

McGrath may also be in negotiations and I think that Tommy B's contract is to 2017

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/i ... -1.1999305

Says here 2018. Yep Henshaw and McGrath likely candidates. We will also be looking to re-sign the 7 that expire this season.
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Postby Ruckedtobits » November 17th, 2015, 9:16 pm

johng wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:Cronin, McGrath and Moore do not have central contracts. Henshaw is in negotiations but in reality as Connacht are funded by IRFU, he is already on an IRFU direct contract. The sign that negotiations have begun wrre his comments 10 days ago.

McGrath may also be in negotiations and I think that Tommy B's contract is to 2017

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/rugby/i ... -1.1999305

Says here 2018. Yep Henshaw and McGrath likely candidates. We will also be looking to re-sign the 7 that expire this season.


Happy to be corrected on that John.
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Postby simonokeeffe » November 17th, 2015, 10:17 pm

Moore has to be in line for one too otherwise there are no centrally contracted tightheads; Ross and Maybe White in their last seasons, Munster & Ulster have no one, Ah You is still Ah You

I think Payne may be in line ahead of Zebo for one too
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Re: Central Contracts

Postby Armchair » November 18th, 2015, 12:02 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:Moore has to be in line for one too otherwise there are no centrally contracted tightheads; Ross and Maybe White in their last seasons, Munster & Ulster have no one, Ah You is still Ah You

I think Payne may be in line ahead of Zebo for one too


Yeah agree on both Moore & Payne, Moore especially needs to be locked in tightheads of his calibre and age can get big money abroad if IRFU are careless with him but hopefully all in hand
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Postby simonokeeffe » November 24th, 2015, 12:07 pm

according to Gerry in a preview to Bath game theres only 13 on central contracts, its not one of the Leinster players (he namechecks all of them), the Munster players seem to check out too so either he got his sums wrong or Rory best isn't on one
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Postby johng » November 25th, 2015, 11:18 pm

simonokeeffe wrote:according to Gerry in a preview to Bath game theres only 13 on central contracts, its not one of the Leinster players (he namechecks all of them), the Munster players seem to check out too so either he got his sums wrong or Rory best isn't on one

Fairly sure there are 14. Half of them in Leinster
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Postby simonokeeffe » November 26th, 2015, 12:38 pm

johng wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:according to Gerry in a preview to Bath game theres only 13 on central contracts, its not one of the Leinster players (he namechecks all of them), the Munster players seem to check out too so either he got his sums wrong or Rory best isn't on one

Fairly sure there are 14. Half of them in Leinster


the numbers ad up, but Gerry repeating that number on OTB

doesnt specify if IRFU reducing contribution to NIQs is down 150k overall or per province
does make good point about impact of massive reduction in number of central contracts on provinces finances
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Postby johng » November 26th, 2015, 12:51 pm

OK. If there are 13 and 7 of them Leinster then which of these is not on a central contract?

Rory Best
Conor Murray
Keith Earls
Donncha Ryan
Andrew Trimble
Tommy Bowe
Peter O'Mahony

If you have time to google them all with the word contract afterwards you could probably figure it out.
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Re: Central Contracts

Postby Logorrhea » November 26th, 2015, 1:31 pm

Tommy?
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Postby johng » November 26th, 2015, 1:44 pm

Logorrhea wrote:Tommy?

See link a few posts north. He is in year one of a 3 year central
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Postby simonokeeffe » November 26th, 2015, 2:11 pm

johng wrote:
Logorrhea wrote:Tommy?

See link a few posts north. He is in year one of a 3 year central


I did for all of them in the original post, I think Gerry is wrong, but hes making me doubt myself, typical man
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Re: Central Contracts

Postby rooster » November 27th, 2015, 11:39 am

johng wrote:OK. If there are 13 and 7 of them Leinster then which of these is not on a central contract?

Rory Best
Conor Murray
Keith Earls
Donncha Ryan
Andrew Trimble
Tommy Bowe
Peter O'Mahony

If you have time to google them all with the word contract afterwards you could probably figure it out.

Is it O'Mahony ? I know one of the Munster players turned down the chance of a central contract.
Best signed new deal yesterday to take him up to 2018 and probably retirement.
Payne is on a central contract
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Postby johng » November 27th, 2015, 12:00 pm

Payne is on an Ulster contract until the end of the season. Unless he had his 3 year contract ripped up behind closed doors, and changed to central.

O'Mahony is in year one of a 3 year central same as Tommycakes.
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