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Ben Te'o named in the England squad to visit the crims...

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England Head Coach Eddie Jones has named four uncapped players in his squad for the three-Test tour to Australia, including Worcester Warriors centre Ben Te'o.

Northampton Saints’ back-row forward Teimana Harrison is included in the 32-man squad, as well as 21-year-old Leicester Tigers tight-head prop Ellis Genge.

Exeter Chiefs centre Henry Slade is also named having been unavailable for selection for the RBS 6 Nations through injury.

“We are excited to being touring Australia in June," said Jones.

"To beat the Wallabies in Australia you have to play a physical, aggressive brand of rugby and that’s what we intend to do.

"We will need to be a fit, cohesive, tactically flexible team and play with a high intensity. We have to be in their faces from the first minute of the first Test.

“But we are in no doubt of the challenge we face. England have only ever won three Tests in Australia and never won in Brisbane, so it is a great opportunity for us to create new history."

'WIN ALL FOUR GAMES'
England begin their tour at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane on Saturday 11 June but before that play Wales at Twickenham Stadium on 29 May in the Old Mutual Wealth Cup.

Jones has named a 26-man squad for the Wales game, which does not include those players from Saracens or Exeter Chiefs who are involved in the Aviva Premiership final on 28 May.

“We have selected two squads of players who we think can win all four games,” said Jones.

“It’s important we get off to a good start against Wales. We are not approaching this as a warm-up, we want to play positive rugby and win."

England head into the matches against Wales and Australia as Grand Slam champions, however, Jones says their RBS 6 Nations success was "just the start of their journey"."We will upset the apple cart"

He added: "We’re ranked fourth in the world and are still developing our identity and we have a long way to go to get to where we ultimately want to be. This tour will provide a good chance for us to measure up to the southern hemisphere and try to close that gap.

“Australia are the second-ranked team in world and their coach is the World Rugby coach of the year, so their supporters will expect a positive result from them. We will upset the apple cart.”

England senior 32-man squad for Australia tour:

Forwards

Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)

Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)

Jack Clifford (Harlequins)

Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers)

Jamie George (Saracens)

Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints)

Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints)

James Haskell (Wasps)

Paul Hill (Northampton Saints)

Maro Itoje (Saracens)

George Kruis (Saracens)

Joe Launchbury (Wasps)

Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)

Matt Mullan (Wasps)

Chris Robshaw (Harlequins)

Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins)

Billy Vunipola (Saracens)

Mako Vunipola (Saracens)

Backs
Mike Brown (Harlequins)

Danny Care (Harlequins)

Elliot Daly (Wasps)

Owen Farrell (Saracens)

George Ford (Bath Rugby)

Alex Goode (Saracens)

Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)

Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs)

Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)

Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors)

Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers)

Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)

Marland Yarde (Harlequins)

Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

England senior 26-man squad for Old Mutual Wealth Cup against Wales

Forwards

Dave Attwood (Bath Rugby)

Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers)

Jack Clifford (Harlequins)

Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers)

Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints)

Teimana Harrison (Northampton Saints)

James Haskell (Wasps)

Paul Hill (Northampton Saints)

Matt Kvesic (Gloucester Rugby)

Joe Launchbury (Wasps)

Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints)

Matt Mullan (Wasps)

Chris Robshaw (Harlequins)

Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins)

Tommy Taylor (Wasps)

Backs

Mike Brown (Harlequins)

Luther Burrell (Northampton Saints)

Danny Care (Harlequins)

Elliot Daly (Wasps)

Ollie Devoto (Exeter Chiefs)

George Ford (Bath Rugby)

Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby)

Manu Tuilagi (Leciester Tigers)

Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby)

Marland Yarde (Harlequins)

Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)
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Ben hasnt put a foot wrong for Worcester all season
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simonokeeffe wrote:Ben hasnt put a foot wrong for Worcester all season
Tbh I'd be quite happy if he became one of England's first choice centres.
It's unlikely he'd be first choice for Joe and perhaps not even second choice as the likes of Ringrose and Aki Bundi come thru.
Where would other knowledgeable :mrgreen: punters place him in the pecking order.
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Oldschool wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Ben hasnt put a foot wrong for Worcester all season
Tbh I'd be quite happy if he became one of England's first choice centres.
It's unlikely he'd be first choice for Joe and perhaps not even second choice as the likes of Ringrose and Aki Bundi come thru.
Where would other knowledgeable :mrgreen: punters place him in the pecking order.
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Oldschool wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Ben hasnt put a foot wrong for Worcester all season
Tbh I'd be quite happy if he became one of England's first choice centres.
It's unlikely he'd be first choice for Joe and perhaps not even second choice as the likes of Ringrose and Aki Bundi come thru.
Where would other knowledgeable :mrgreen: punters place him in the pecking order.
I'd like to see how he did in a Munster Cup final

Henshaw is in carbonite at 12 for Ireland
For 13's Ben doesnt pass and is a loose cannon in defence, which Joe is not a fan of, let alone this offloading nonsense

IMO Jones is capping him early to tie him but no way hes ahead of a fit Tuilagi
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simonokeeffe wrote:
Oldschool wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Ben hasnt put a foot wrong for Worcester all season
Tbh I'd be quite happy if he became one of England's first choice centres.
It's unlikely he'd be first choice for Joe and perhaps not even second choice as the likes of Ringrose and Aki Bundi come thru.
Where would other knowledgeable :mrgreen: punters place him in the pecking order.
I'd like to see how he did in a Munster Cup final

Henshaw is in carbonite at 12 for Ireland
For 13's Ben doesnt pass and is a loose cannon in defence, which Joe is not a fan of, let alone this offloading nonsense

IMO Jones is capping him early to tie him but no way hes ahead of a fit Tuilagi
A very knowledgeable analysis indeed.
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simonokeeffe wrote:IMO Jones is capping him early to tie him but no way hes ahead of a fit Tuilagi
Missing out on one international match a season isn't too bad!
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jimbobjoe wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:IMO Jones is capping him early to tie him but no way hes ahead of a fit Tuilagi
Missing out on one international match a season isn't too bad!
Fair point!

You replace Joseph with Teo then England backs play a different narrower style, assumin Farell plays twelve when fit
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Tuilagi out of the tour
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Ashton has turned down going on the Saxons tour to practice diving in front of the mirror

You know when Cipriani out integrity's you youre in trouble
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Ex Ireland u20 hooker George McGuigan on the bench for Saxons this weekend and thus tied to England eligibility wise when he comes on
Niall Annett qualifies on residency end of next season, he'll be next if IRFU arent careful

New Italy head coach Conor O'Shea has named his first side ahead of this weekend's Test match against Argentina.

Italy: 15 Luke McLean, 14 Leonardo Sarto, 13 Michele Campagnaro, 12 Tommaso Boni, 11 David Odiete, 10 Carlo Canna, 9 Edoardo Gori, 8 Andries van Schalkwyk, 7 Simone Favaro, 6 Abraham Steyn, 5 Marco Fuser, 4 Quintin Geldenhuys, 3 Lorenzo Cittadini, 2 Ornel Gega, 1 Andrea Lovotti
Replacements: 16 Oliviero Fabiani, 17 Sami Panico, 18 Pietro Ceccarelli, 19 Valerio Bernabo’, 20 Robert Barbieri, 21 Guglielmo Palazzani, 22 Tommaso Allan, 23 Giovanbattista Venditti
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The whole project player thing seems so much worse when the names stand out as being foreign.
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LeRouxIsPHat wrote:The whole project player thing seems so much worse when the names stand out as being foreign.
its why no one will notice Nathan Hughes playing for England
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simonokeeffe wrote:Ex Ireland u20 hooker George McGuigan on the bench for Saxons this weekend and thus tied to England eligibility wise when he comes on
If he is one of the named substitutes when the game begins he is tied regardless of whether he comes on or not.
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Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Ex Ireland u20 hooker George McGuigan on the bench for Saxons this weekend and thus tied to England eligibility wise when he comes on
If he is one of the named substitutes when the game begins he is tied regardless of whether he comes on or not.
youre right, they got rid of the Sykes exemption :D
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Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Ex Ireland u20 hooker George McGuigan on the bench for Saxons this weekend and thus tied to England eligibility wise when he comes on
If he is one of the named substitutes when the game begins he is tied regardless of whether he comes on or not.
South Africa 'A' are not their designated 2nd team, its their 20s (Junior Springboks). To be tied does the game not to have both sides playing their 2nd designated team, i.e. players playing for Wales 20s are only locked in v France/Italy 20s and not Ireland, England etc?
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neill_m wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Ex Ireland u20 hooker George McGuigan on the bench for Saxons this weekend and thus tied to England eligibility wise when he comes on
If he is one of the named substitutes when the game begins he is tied regardless of whether he comes on or not.
South Africa 'A' are not their designated 2nd team, its their 20s (Junior Springboks). To be tied does the game not to have both sides playing their 2nd designated team, i.e. players playing for Wales 20s are only locked in v France/Italy 20s and not Ireland, England etc?
No they removed that exemption, just have to play for the 2nd team in a legit match
As mentioned elsewhere its (possibly) why likes of Ross Moriarty played for England u20s rather than Wales u20 or why Bristol 10 Sheedy wont play for them
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neill_m wrote:
Dave Cahill wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:Ex Ireland u20 hooker George McGuigan on the bench for Saxons this weekend and thus tied to England eligibility wise when he comes on
If he is one of the named substitutes when the game begins he is tied regardless of whether he comes on or not.
South Africa 'A' are not their designated 2nd team, its their 20s (Junior Springboks). To be tied does the game not to have both sides playing their 2nd designated team, i.e. players playing for Wales 20s are only locked in v France/Italy 20s and not Ireland, England etc?
You're 100% correct there, I forgot completely about the status of the oppostition
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Entertaining game between NZ and Wales so far
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